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14 Aug 18 - 07:21 AM (#3943829) Subject: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Nigel Parsons News is filtering through of a (possible) terrorist attack at Westminster this morning: BBC News Whitehall tube station closed. |
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14 Aug 18 - 07:50 AM (#3943836) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Raggytash Early days Nigel, I been watching the news and have seen a brief bit of footage of the incident. I somehow thought that if it was a terrorist attack they might have been driving a bit faster. Just a thought, I wonder if it could have been drink or drug driving. Time alone will tell. |
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14 Aug 18 - 07:58 AM (#3943839) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Nigel Parsons News suggests they were doing 50mph when they hit the barrier. That's fast for London traffic. |
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14 Aug 18 - 08:15 AM (#3943842) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Raedwulf There's an overheard camera shot, rather unclear, but it looks like the driver took sudden evasive action, came off of one road, across pavement / grass & then rammed the barrier. I can't be sure, because the picture quality isn't good, but it looks like he might have been being followed by a police van. It may be that the sudden evasion was because of that, rather than any act of terrorism. There'll be more details in a few hours; not much point in speculating now! |
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14 Aug 18 - 08:33 AM (#3943847) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Manitas_at_home There's a tube station called Whitehall? |
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14 Aug 18 - 08:49 AM (#3943850) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Backwoodsman Westminster. |
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14 Aug 18 - 08:52 AM (#3943852) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Jim Carroll Was the attacker wearing a burka? Jim Carroll |
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14 Aug 18 - 08:55 AM (#3943855) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Steve Shaw Nah. He punched a letterbox in the guts and broke his wrist. |
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14 Aug 18 - 08:57 AM (#3943856) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Raggytash I've looked at the footage again Nigel, prior to the driving swerving to the right he had been driving quite slowly, the passing police van seems to have spooked him and if he was doing 50 mph when he hit the barrier he had only been doing it for a few yards. |
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14 Aug 18 - 09:07 AM (#3943858) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Raedwulf I think there's two vans, Raggy. One goes past him, the other follows him after he swerves & accelerates. But yes, we agree that at the moment it looks more likely not a terrorist attack - the latest version of the BBC story says BBC home affairs correspondent Daniel Sandford said sources told him the suspect is from the Birmingham area and was not known to MI5 or the counter terrorism network, but was known to police (my bolding). He is also said to "not be co-operating with counter-terrorism police". |
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14 Aug 18 - 09:22 AM (#3943866) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Senoufou The thing is, people in big cities, especially London and especially this particular location, are on 'alert' at all times since the risk of terrorism is 'severe'. It must be frightening to have this happen nearby and wonder if a bomb is going to explode at any minute. It makes me think of poor old Trump recently when someone shouted, "Allahu akbar!" and he nearly weed himself with fright. My personal guess (can't really tell as not enough info yet) is that this chap is merely a miscreant known to the Police and under the influence of drink/drugs. But seeing the pics of Police officers standing about holding those automatic rifle things is very sad. |
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14 Aug 18 - 09:53 AM (#3943875) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Dave the Gnome Sadly, this is what the terrorists want. Speculation and scare-mongering plays into their hands. |
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14 Aug 18 - 01:39 PM (#3943914) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Mr Red The police have come to the conclusion that given the speed, the injuries to a cyclist and the location. They are treating it as if it were a terrorist event. Terrorist police and all that. The man was not previously known to the terrorist authorities. If it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck and quacks, best to approach with a duck in mind** ** other fowl deeds are available. |
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14 Aug 18 - 02:41 PM (#3943924) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: punkfolkrocker How many more times must this happen before cyclists can be legally armed with light automatic firearms...!!!??? |
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14 Aug 18 - 02:52 PM (#3943927) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Senoufou He was driving a silver Ford Fiesta just like ours. He was a black chap aged 29 from Birmingham apparently. He didn't achieve much did he? (thank goodness!) |
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14 Aug 18 - 03:48 PM (#3943938) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Bonzo3legs Are you sure that it was not somebody fed up with cyclists flagrantly breaking highway code rules??????? |
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15 Aug 18 - 02:19 AM (#3944005) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: David Carter (UK) I think PFR, along with Chris Boardman and the lycra brigade, would like any incident in which a cyclist is mildly inconvenienced treated as terrorist attack. |
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15 Aug 18 - 02:39 AM (#3944009) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: punkfolkrocker Don't lump me in with middle class lycra lifestylers - my cycling culture is 1950s factory hands pedaling to work in the mornings... Steel toe cap boots, baggy trousers, and a sensible coat or jacket. Headware is an optional wooly hat or balaclava... Army surplus back pack for sandwiches and flask, chain & padlock, puncture kit, and pump. .. and cycle clips to prevent trouser legs getting caught in the chain... ..I'm really not joking... My only concession to the later 20th century was a gortex waterproof hooded jacket... |
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15 Aug 18 - 03:57 AM (#3944025) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Manitas_at_home The cyclists were easy targets, I think the footpaths are cordoned off to prevent a repeat of previous bridge attacks or many pedestrians would have been hit. |
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15 Aug 18 - 04:01 AM (#3944027) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: Senoufou Those two policemen who leapt out of his way were lucky not to have been injured or killed. |
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15 Aug 18 - 10:37 AM (#3944110) Subject: RE: BS: Terrorist? attack in London 14 Aug From: MikeL2 hi I think that it is right to treat incidents like this are treated seriously until they are certain that it's not terrorist related. Mike |