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19 Oct 18 - 06:34 AM (#3957382) Subject: BS: No message no messenger From: Donuel This just in: Democrats have no focused message or catch phrase. No rhyming jingle. No one to tell the message. We need both a message and messenger. Did we forget a message to repeat? Meanwhile fear politics has jobs not mobs, caravans of criminals, honor Cavanaugh, MAGA, etc. The lowest common denominator does matter in an election. As simple PHS go maybe Democrats could try a phrase or two that are less than 32 words and are not confusing. I wish Tom Leher had a few modest examples. Do you? Or is what Trump has done so heinous it is all the message Democrats need. |
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19 Oct 18 - 11:15 PM (#3957499) Subject: RE: BS: No message no messenger From: frogprince Does "Make America HUMANE Again" have enough resonance to be worthwhile ? |
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19 Oct 18 - 11:53 PM (#3957502) Subject: RE: BS: No message no messenger From: Bee-dubya-ell All the worthlessness and incompetence you've come to love in Republicans! (Just with less money and better manners.) |
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20 Oct 18 - 12:10 AM (#3957504) Subject: RE: BS: No message no messenger From: meself Less money and better manners would get my vote. |
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20 Oct 18 - 02:53 AM (#3957508) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: beardedbruce Better check your facts. Dems are raising and spending more money than Reps, but still losing ground. Dare I mention it might be the lack of any message other than anti-Trump hate speach? |
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20 Oct 18 - 04:47 AM (#3957517) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Acorn4 From the other side of the pond here, just an observation. Perhaps some attractive policies to win votes rather than just anti-Trump rhetoric the whole time? |
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20 Oct 18 - 06:11 AM (#3957520) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Donuel Democrats are going with health care. Schumer says the power is in the streets -not the tweets. There is more money in the house races for democrats but Shelly Edelman just gave 55 million to the RNC "RELIGION BAD DRUGS GOOD" ? ;^/ not everything Bill Mahre says will play in Peoria. Democrats |
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20 Oct 18 - 07:57 AM (#3957534) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: beardedbruce Dems. 1.3 billion by candidates Reps. Just under 1 billion by candidates Outside spending Dems 242 million Reps. 343 million Totals estimated for the 2018 election Dems 2.5 billion Reps 2 billion In case you actually care about the facts (From phone- clicky later) opensecrets.org |
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20 Oct 18 - 08:54 AM (#3957547) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Donuel You had to add a dig at the end. Truth is, a lot of money is hidden. I respect facts but I do not have a deep warm caring cuddly fact feeling. Do not forget I know the real reason for your obstreperous attitude and I still find it reasonably selfish. Like everyone else. Besides money is not the message , it is the messenger of the message. I do not not want our degreed journalists roughed up, locked up or even merely tortured and dismembered. They are not the enemy of the people unless you have something to hide to avoid prosecution in a free society. |
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20 Oct 18 - 09:04 AM (#3957548) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: beardedbruce Do irk, You know nothing of what I think or why I think it I note a lot of hate filled low fact content posts under your name. What conclusions should I draw from that? |
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20 Oct 18 - 09:44 AM (#3957551) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: beardedbruce Sorry, Donuel Autocorrect got me. I do not recall a recent post by you that did not contain a dig at Trump, regardless of topic. |
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20 Oct 18 - 09:59 AM (#3957553) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Jeri Please try to stick to the subject, not each other. Thank you. I think the message should be "Make America America Again" Trump and his band of sycophants are dismantling the country and turning it into something exceedingly evil. I want it back. |
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20 Oct 18 - 11:49 AM (#3957565) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Donuel No message no messenger: My only point is an offense is better in the short run than always playing defense. Our deficit has gone up to 17% to pay for the tax cut for the wealthy. SS and Medicare go up a max of 4% per year. |
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20 Oct 18 - 12:23 PM (#3957573) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Mossback Dems are raising and spending more money than Reps Does money in politics bother you, BB? Then what you need to work on is overturning Buckley v. Valeo, First National Bank of Boston v. Bellotti, and Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, the last particularly egregious, promulgated by right-wing, activist judges - of partisan Republican leanings & morals(sic).. Corporations are not people, and money is not speech. Unless you're a far right-wing fanatic. |
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20 Oct 18 - 07:04 PM (#3957625) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Donuel Bill maybe 2% of the country knows what you know and then only .5% cares But the Citizens United (right wing united) battles are 100% critical. |
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20 Oct 18 - 07:09 PM (#3957628) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: meself The comedy writes itself. Trump today, to his mob: "The Democrats want to impose socialism! They want to take away your health-care!" Challenge: count the layers of irony. |
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20 Oct 18 - 07:11 PM (#3957629) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Donuel Today Trump re entered the nuclear arms race. Cohen warns American families against Trump today. Saudi Arabia claims that Kashoggi tried to sell loose cigarettes in the embassy and was punched, wrestled to the ground and put in an accidental fatal choke hold. Can you spot the one story that is not true? |
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21 Oct 18 - 08:25 AM (#3957676) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Donuel There are things Democrats are afraid to bring up like the wage increase at the bottom of the pay scale. They woukd rather focus on rich tax cuts. They could instead recognize the good and strive to work toward growing that good even if it happened under Trump. Heaven knows the progress under Democrats has been claimed by the right. If we are honest the most corrupt ruling family is not the Trumps, it is the Saudies. |
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21 Oct 18 - 01:42 PM (#3957723) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Mossback that good even if it happened under Trump. And that good perpetrated by Trump/Trumpists/Trumpism/Trump-Cultists is or are .............................??? |
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21 Oct 18 - 02:10 PM (#3957732) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Donuel You can fill in the blank yourself_______. He has helped: An increase in the minimum wage, Daddy daughter incest normalization, Historical Rewrite Society, Stable Genius Foundation, Tiki Torch Inc. Privatizing: State Dept., Post Office (tba), Justice, Treasury, National Security, EPA, Swamp/wetland eradication, American Psychological Association... If an issue can't be monatized it is ignored by downsizing |
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21 Oct 18 - 02:19 PM (#3957734) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Donuel Oh I forgot how much he has helped women with pay offs. |
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22 Oct 18 - 04:52 PM (#3957909) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Donuel On a local level people know the issues they want. The National message however should be one of hope and unity and not the rage that Bruce objected to. :^) |
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22 Oct 18 - 05:02 PM (#3957911) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: beardedbruce Should be, but is not, at least in Maryland. |
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22 Oct 18 - 07:17 PM (#3957922) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Donuel Maryland - land of lynchings. Trump approval rating is 47% |
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22 Oct 18 - 07:23 PM (#3957923) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: beardedbruce And the Dems outnumber Reps by 2 to 1... So how many Dems are you saying approve of Trump??? |
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22 Oct 18 - 07:40 PM (#3957926) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: beardedbruce Maryland political registration: Party Number of Voters Percentage Democratic 2,059,544 54.9% Republican 1,020,438 26.0% Unaffiliated 691,583 17.6% Libertarian 20,377 0.5% Green 9,313 0.2% Other 31,975 0.8% Total 3,928,689 100% So, if EVERYONE else supports Trump, that means that at least 39,131 Dems in MD support Trump as well. |
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23 Oct 18 - 05:05 PM (#3958013) Subject: RE: BS: Democrats - No message no messenger From: Stilly River Sage Getting a handle on all of the spew that comes out of Trump is a challenge - listening to what he says in order to craft a response is torturous. |