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BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated

26 Nov 18 - 12:31 PM (#3963404)
Subject: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: DMcG

The Bank of England is choosing a character for the £50 note. It has to be a dead scientist.

I nominated Hertha Ayrton, which has made the very long list.

Who would you pick?


26 Nov 18 - 12:34 PM (#3963406)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Donuel

Maxwell, Dirac and Newton all enjoying a drink together.


26 Nov 18 - 12:48 PM (#3963407)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Stanron

Ada Lovelace?


26 Nov 18 - 02:53 PM (#3963434)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Donuel

The parachute has deployed on its way to Mar's surface and touchdown will happen on Earth right Now...*


26 Nov 18 - 02:55 PM (#3963435)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Donuel

Now we must wait for the probe to say its ready to penetrate Mars.


26 Nov 18 - 03:08 PM (#3963436)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Donuel

Earth time landing on Mars was 2:53 EST

nothing big until dinnertime 5PM when the probe's date with Mars really begins.


26 Nov 18 - 03:38 PM (#3963441)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jos

So are you suggesting Colin Pillinger for the £50 note?


26 Nov 18 - 04:30 PM (#3963455)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jack Campin

Srinivasa Ramanujan.


26 Nov 18 - 04:40 PM (#3963458)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jos

I know the candidates have to be dead, but do they have to be British?


26 Nov 18 - 04:54 PM (#3963462)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: DMcG

Apparently not. Here are the restrictions from the Bank of England:

You can nominate as many people as you like. But anyone who appears on the new £50 note must:

* have contributed to the field of science
* be real – so no fictional characters please
* not be alive - Her Majesty the Queen is the only exception
* have shaped thought, innovation, leadership or values in the UK
* inspire people, not divide them 


26 Nov 18 - 06:58 PM (#3963466)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Donuel

Jack, you know he had trouble showing his work to the dweebs at Oxford.
He reminds me of Tesla.


26 Nov 18 - 07:57 PM (#3963475)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

Stephen Hawkin.


27 Nov 18 - 03:05 AM (#3963497)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jack Campin

Ramanujan had very little problem getting through to the one person who mattered to him, G.H.Hardy. He didn't have to fight the Home Office as he would have to today.


27 Nov 18 - 03:36 AM (#3963500)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

Stephen Hawkin.
DMcG, I love the Bank of England's stipulation that the nominee must be a real person and not a fictional character.
I would have liked Dumbledore, the Wizard of Oz (was he Australian by any chance?!) or perhaps Dr Who.


27 Nov 18 - 03:46 AM (#3963503)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: DMcG

Dr Who certainly opens up the opportunity to enhance security through multiple holographic images.

I see Mrs Thatcher is nominated. I am not sure she meets the "not devisive" criteria.


27 Nov 18 - 03:52 AM (#3963506)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

Didn't she do something incredibly trivial with ice-cream? Not exactly a ground-breaking scientist. And imagine the graffiti on the £50 notes, they'd be so defaced most would have to be recalled.


27 Nov 18 - 04:09 AM (#3963510)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

Ooops! I missed the final 'g' off my nominee's name.
It's Stephen Hawking.


27 Nov 18 - 04:59 AM (#3963519)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Mr Red

Thatcher the milk snatcher didn't do anything clever with ice cream. Soft ice cream was already sold in the US before her Anglicising of it.

And she was a technologist, not a scientist.

As a programmer, Ada Lovelace tops my choices. And put her name in some binary sequence too.


27 Nov 18 - 05:24 AM (#3963526)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jos

I hate soft ice cream - for me, ice cream needs some texture.


27 Nov 18 - 07:11 AM (#3963552)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

Yep, "HawkinG." That one got past me too! :-(


27 Nov 18 - 09:00 AM (#3963566)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

Jos, I like ANY texture of ice cream. But it has to be Cornish (eg Kelly's) or Ronaldo's from their little kiosk in Sheringham.


27 Nov 18 - 09:17 AM (#3963569)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jos

The ice cream that is scooped out of a tub or container is usually OK. What I can't abide is that 'Whippy' stuff that's squirted out of a tube.


27 Nov 18 - 09:43 AM (#3963573)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

Kelly's is only OK if you really must eat ice cream beyond the confines of Italy. Once you've tasted the delights of the true gelateria, the British article seems somewhat amateurish.


27 Nov 18 - 11:57 AM (#3963595)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

I reckon Walls ice cream is dire.

I think (though not entirely sure) that Ronaldo's ice cream of many flavours (sold in 'Ellie's' in Sheringham) has something to do with the Parravani family, and is based on an Italian gelato recipe.

I read online that bookies are now giving Stephen Hawking odds of 7:2, so it could be that he's favourite.
If one of the criteria is that the choice 'shouldn't be divisive', then Mrs Thatcher will be ruled out straight away.


27 Nov 18 - 12:00 PM (#3963597)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jack Campin

...and nobody would bother with Italian ice cream if they could get Czech or New Zealand stuff.

So if we need to nominate a scientist who worked in the UK and would have known what good ice cream was: Ernest Rutherford. Who Theresa May would also have deported.


27 Nov 18 - 01:39 PM (#3963612)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: DMcG

I was brought up on Middlesbrough where the Rea family from Italy were pretty much the sole suppliers - Chris Rea is part of the family. I was young and foolish at the time, so was taken with the soft ice cream when it appeared, and so contributed to the loss of the Italian article from the town.

We all have something to regret!


27 Nov 18 - 01:56 PM (#3963615)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: G-Force

I suppose Charles Wheatstone is a bit divisive.


27 Nov 18 - 02:20 PM (#3963619)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

William Herschel was a truly excellent man, not only a great scientist but a composer of lovely music in the classical style. If you ever go to Bath you should go to his house in New King Street, now a little museum, where you can stand in the back garden on the very spot where he discovered Uranus in 1781. He did lots of other very fine astronomy too.


27 Nov 18 - 02:59 PM (#3963632)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

I wonder why they couldn't put all these famous scientists on £50 notes, limited editions for each one. Perhaps it would make forgery too easy. And it would all start to get a bit like that Pokemon palaver.
("I've got four of Stephen Hawking. Anyone want to swap for a Herschel, a Thatcher, a Newton and a Mendel?")


28 Nov 18 - 05:03 AM (#3963699)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: BobL

Well, banknotes are printed in sheets of about a dozen so it should be technically possible for each note in the sheet to feature a different subject. I'd guess that the same anti-forgery tricks could be applied to each design. A possible forgery trap is that the letters of the serial number would have to correspond to the portrait.


28 Nov 18 - 05:50 AM (#3963704)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

Ha Bob! Well that seems like a good idea then. Make it more diverse and interesting.
I don't think I've ever seen a fifty pound note. We even avoid twenty pound notes, as the village shops don't like giving change out of a big note just for a newspaper. I expect too they don't entirely trust large denominations.
Having said that, I'd quite like about a hundred twenty pound notes. I expect I could manage to spend them somehow or other. :)


28 Nov 18 - 12:24 PM (#3963754)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

In Europe they think nothing of 50 euro notes, and if you draw money from a cash machine in Spain or Italy, say 200€, you'll invariably get three fifties in the mix. Yet we don't like those damned fifties here. I've only ever had one, from a Barclays cash machine in Padstow that had run out of smaller denominations. There was a near-insurrection in the street as more and more customers received these unwelcome items!


29 Nov 18 - 03:40 AM (#3963830)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: BobL

Those of a certain age may care to recall how it used to be. I haven't looked up the official figures for inflation but going by the price of a pint since I started drinking, a pound today is worth about sixpence in 1960. In those days we had notes for 10/- (£20 in today's money), £1 (£40) and £5 (£200). Perhaps we need a £5 coin to take the place of the old half-crown.


29 Nov 18 - 04:15 AM (#3963840)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

In the fifties I used to spend 6d (two-and-a-half p) at the corner newsagent's every week. I bought the Dandy(2d) the Beano(2d) and a very long liquorice skipping rope(2d). I'd start at one end of the liquorice and chew my way along it while reading the comics. An hour or more of bliss.
My newspaper now is 70p (about fifteen shillings!!)


29 Nov 18 - 04:30 AM (#3963845)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

My first pint cost me 1s/11d. I was wearing my school uniform when I bought it.


29 Nov 18 - 04:42 AM (#3963847)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: The Sandman

Charles Wheatstone divisive?, he is more likely to bridge a gap


29 Nov 18 - 05:44 AM (#3963853)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Nigel Paterson

My bank issues £50.00 notes only on request. If withdrawing from an ATM, 50s are never used. I'm told they are the most forged notes in the UK. Shops hate them & often refuse them. I applaud the decision to choose a female scientist for the new issue, but the sad fact is, whoever graces the new £50.00 note will rarely be seen!


29 Nov 18 - 06:28 AM (#3963857)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jos

A lady I used to know in the 1980s, when she was over 90, told me she started work with her father in the fields when she was a child and earned 3d (3 old pence - a quarter of a shilling [5p]) a week. She gave her mother 1d, and saved a farthing (a quarter of an old penny), which left her a farthing a day to spend on sweets.


29 Nov 18 - 08:04 AM (#3963872)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Backwoodsman

"My first pint cost me 1s/11d. I was wearing my school uniform when I bought it."

1s/10d (c. 9p) for mine, Steve. I did change out of school uniform before going to the pub though! ;-)


29 Nov 18 - 08:09 AM (#3963873)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jack Campin

They should make it Tim Berners-Lee, and to go with it, every note should be assigned its own travel blog with a unique URL and password. So every time you spent you could say where and what for.


29 Nov 18 - 08:34 AM (#3963881)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: SPB-Cooperator

I would like see to Charles Babbage and Ada Lovelace together on the note.
or Babbage, Herschel and Peacock


30 Nov 18 - 05:56 AM (#3963977)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Nigel Parsons

They should make it Tim Berners-Lee, and to go with it, every note should be assigned its own travel blog with a unique URL and password. So every time you spent you could say where and what for.
He's excluded on the grounds given earlier by DMcG:

You can nominate as many people as you like. But anyone who appears on the new £50 note must:
* have contributed to the field of science
* be real – so no fictional characters please
* not be alive - Her Majesty the Queen is the only exception
* have shaped thought, innovation, leadership or values in the UK
* inspire people, not divide them


30 Nov 18 - 06:04 AM (#3963980)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

With regard to Backwoodsman and Steve buying a pint in a pub while still at school, wasn't that illegal 'back then'?
I have a vision of the younger 'Krankie' or Norman Wisdom, dressed in school uniform but clearly much older, going up to the bar and ordering a pint of bitter!


30 Nov 18 - 06:12 AM (#3963982)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

Definitely illegal. It was at lunchtime in my case. It was in 1968 so don't tell a constable on me, please.


30 Nov 18 - 06:18 AM (#3963984)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

You naughty thing Steve. :)


30 Nov 18 - 11:02 AM (#3964020)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jack Campin

Conversely, I'm one of the few people to have taken LSD before it was made illegal.

How about Albert Hoffman, the guy who invented it? He's dead and his invention certainly shaped values in the UK. It would help if his banknote was printed on something as absorbent as 1960s blotting paper. Great potential for security coding there.


30 Nov 18 - 12:49 PM (#3964043)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: McGrath of Harlow

Ah but Hoffmann was Swiss. Can't go having foreigners on British Money.

Nice letter from someone in today's Guardian supporting the idea of Margaret Thatcher on the note, but only on condition that a portrait by Guardian cartoonist Steve Bell was used. (For example)


30 Nov 18 - 10:28 PM (#3964096)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: EBarnacle

If you think of how much work is based on their thinking, Newton leads the pack--you know, calculus.
Lovelace and/or Babbage for widespread public application.
Turing for consideration of consciousness.
Hawking for making people think.


30 Nov 18 - 11:24 PM (#3964101)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Stanron

I am very much in favour of Lovelace and Babbage because they had their ideas so far ahead of the current technology. And what those ideas lead to utterly changed our world. Babbage invented computing before electronics was much more than experiments in static electricity. Ada wrote her 'notes' based on the merest hint of what a computer might be. They were both prophetic visionaries, and I now enjoy the fruits of their genious as I type this. Salute!


01 Dec 18 - 02:25 PM (#3964193)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Nigel Parsons

Yes, "Newton leads the pack" but he's already been featured on the £1 note.


01 Dec 18 - 02:26 PM (#3964194)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Nigel Parsons

And, as this is about the £50 note.

50!


01 Dec 18 - 02:30 PM (#3964198)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: DMcG

My preference would be for a slightly more obscure scientist, as I see some merit is people saying "Who is that?" and finding out themselves or via their mates. But I suspect in the end it will be a fairly well known figure like Babbage, or Ada Lovelace, Darwin or Steven Hawking that many/most already know about.


01 Dec 18 - 02:37 PM (#3964200)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jos

"people saying "Who is that?" and finding out themselves or via their mates"

This might happen when the choice of design is first announced, though the announcement will probably include something about the chosen person, but I think it is unlikely that it will happen very often after that when someone actually sees a £50 note.


01 Dec 18 - 03:06 PM (#3964202)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jos

The trouble with claiming a '50' post is that often it isn't number 50 when it appears - either another post just sneaks in while you are posting, as here, making it 51, or sometimes a post is deleted, making it number 49.

And a suggestion for a scientist - how about the botanist Joseph Banks.


01 Dec 18 - 04:36 PM (#3964205)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: robomatic

Darwin? Faraday? Maxwell?

Maybe they've already been honoured??


01 Dec 18 - 04:41 PM (#3964206)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

Banks was a bit of a pioneer. But there have been loads of great botanists. I love Roy Lancaster, a great botanist and conservationist and communicator, but he ain't dead! I met him a few years ago at Heligan in Cornwall and his enthusiasm and powers of inspiration were undimmed. He and I had a mutual friend, Vicar Shaw of Waterhead, Oldham, which was the vicar's parish. Vicar Shaw's speciality was finding exotic plants on the squalid rubbish tips of Lancashire, the sort of plants that had sprung up from seeds imported on wool shoddy and other industrial waste. One of his very favourite spots was the Crown Wallpaper tip in Darwen, not far from the famous India Mill campanile. He and I once spent a joyous day on Nob End Tip, where the Irwell meets the Croal, a Victorian dump for alkaline waste, which has an amazing assemblage of alien plants that you'd think have no place in Lancashire. But he did appreciate beauty too, and he and I, accompanied by the great Darwen botanist Peter Fentem, climbed Penyghent one April day to see the purple saxifrage in full flower. I'd seen the saxifrage in several places in the Scottish highlands, but this was a first for the Rev at his then age of 77, a chap who had no interest whatsoever in botanising beyond his beloved north of England. So I'm nominating Vicar Charles Edward, as he called himself, though I'm certainly going to be in a minority of one!

Steve, the lad nominated by the man himself as Vicar Shaw's "Radcliffe eye." And he was no relation, in case you think I'm biased!


01 Dec 18 - 05:11 PM (#3964209)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

Speaking of botanists, a really good candidate would be Marianne North. She travelled the world, especially in the warmer climes, in Victorian times, painting exotic plants in their natural contexts. She was a good friend of Joseph Hooker and she knew Charles Darwin, who encouraged her exploits in Australasia especially. The paintings are lovely and they reveal considerable botanical understanding. There's a lovely book of her travels, containing lots of pages of her paintings, called A Vision Of Eden. I possess a little book of botany by Sir John Lubbock, published in 1875, that Marianne owned. Her name is written on the title page, in her own hand! In Kew Gardens there's a beautiful little gallery containing most of her paintings. They're all displayed cheek by jowel, but that in no way ruins the effect.


01 Dec 18 - 05:13 PM (#3964210)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: MudGuard

no foreigners on British bank notes?

Queen Elizabeth is from Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha and Hannover descent ...

She is essentially German ;-)

Her kids are even more German, with Mr. Battenberg (anglicized as Mountbatton) as father

;-)

Greetings from Germany,
Andy a/k/a MudGuard


01 Dec 18 - 05:30 PM (#3964211)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Backwoodsman

"With regard to Backwoodsman and Steve buying a pint in a pub while still at school, wasn't that illegal 'back then'?"

It was, Sen. But I was a big lad for my size! :-)

"Her kids are even more German, with Mr. Battenberg (anglicised as Mountbatton) as father."

Corerection (two, actually)....

1) He was born on the Greek island of Corfu so, strictly speaking, he's a Greek.
2) It's 'Mountbatten.


01 Dec 18 - 05:35 PM (#3964213)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

I'm sure we're both still "big lads," John, even at our age. Nod nod, wink wink, say no more...


01 Dec 18 - 05:37 PM (#3964214)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Backwoodsman

Stephen! Behave! ;-) ;-)


01 Dec 18 - 05:47 PM (#3964215)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jack Campin

Is Rosalind Franklin on the shortlist?


01 Dec 18 - 05:54 PM (#3964216)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: DMcG

Yes, she is, and here is the full list so far


01 Dec 18 - 07:54 PM (#3964234)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Steve Shaw

"Stephen! Behave!'

Flippin' 'eck! How uncanny is that! I'm "Steve" to everybody, all the time. The only exception to that is when I'm in trouble, either with my missus or with my mum, in which case they call me "Stephen...!" I always know that I'm in deepest doodah when I hear that name. John, are you colluding!?


02 Dec 18 - 04:42 AM (#3964257)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Jos

Mudguard said "no foreigners on British bank notes?"

No, Mudguard, foreigners are allowed, on condition that they:

"have shaped thought, innovation, leadership or values in the UK"

In any case, she is on the front. This is about who will be on the back.


02 Dec 18 - 12:37 PM (#3964316)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: MudGuard

I was answering to McGrath of Harlow:
Cite: "Can't go having foreigners on British Money."


04 Dec 18 - 11:13 AM (#3964724)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: SPB-Cooperator

Didn't Newton have this habit of publishing other people's ideas?


04 Dec 18 - 11:46 AM (#3964728)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Nigel Parsons

I thought he built upon the ideas of others.
Hence the quote "If I have seen further it is by standing on the shoulders of giants". The last six words of this quote are given on the edge of many £2 coins, reminding us that all science builds on (or discards) what has been done before.
It is also a fitting reminder that Newton himself was Master of the Royal Mint.


05 Dec 18 - 04:36 AM (#3964856)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: David Carter (UK)

Robert Hooke accused Newton of taking credit for gravity from him, but it was Newton who supplied the mathematical proof for the theory of gravity. Hooke to be fair was also a great scientist with a number of important ideas and discoveries, including the idea that light was a wave, and Hooke's law which describes the behaviour of springs. Hooke should be in this list. Hooke and Newton seem to have detested each other, sad in two such great scientists. But in the end Newton's achievements were greater, because he could supply the mathematical rigour as well as the experimental skill.

In the end I think its difficult to look past Newton and Darwin for this, and maybe Roger Bacon if anyone thinks they really know what he looked like. Newton as has been mentioned has already been on a note, but that note is now discontinued, so it shouldn't rule him out. These are three of the four outstanding British figures in any field of the past thousand years, the fourth of course being Shakespeare.


05 Dec 18 - 09:16 AM (#3964884)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Mr Red


I wonder why they couldn't put all these famous scientists on £50 notes, limited editions for each one. Perhaps it would make forgery too easy.


so what about all those Euro notes, from each country? And all those special edition coins?

I guess there are ways of watermarking that suffice in Europe.


05 Dec 18 - 11:40 AM (#3964928)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: MudGuard

The Euro bank notes are the same in all countries, but the design was changed in the last few years (to add more security/anti-forgery measures).

Only the coins are different in each country (on one side, the other side is common).
In some countries, the design was changed (e.g. Spain after Juan Carlos retired and Felipe became king), or in the Vatican (after the change of Pope from John Paul II to Benedikt XVI and then to Franciscus).

And every participating country can issue special 2 Euro coins.


05 Dec 18 - 01:37 PM (#3964962)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: McGrath of Harlow

I was being ironic, Mudguard. (Though having ancestors, even parents, from other countries shouldn't stop anyone being accepted as British, whether that's the Queen or the child of an immigrant from anywhere. Though there are various sneaky dodges, largely introduced by Theresa May that can mess that up for some people.)

Actually I'd prefer it if they stuck animals on the money instead of obscurely eminent people. With a Royal Corgi on the front.


05 Dec 18 - 01:45 PM (#3964967)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

A cat! A cat! (Gets too excited and has to sit down)


05 Dec 18 - 01:52 PM (#3964969)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: DMcG

Schrödinger's cat!


05 Dec 18 - 02:02 PM (#3964974)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Senoufou

No! No! No! Poor cat, shut in a box waiting for an atom to set off a hammer and break a phial of acid which kills it. Knickers to Herr Schrodinger!
(I know it's only a 'thought experiment', but still...)


05 Dec 18 - 02:11 PM (#3964975)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: DMcG

The cat fails on two grounds. Firstly it is not real.

But then there is the question of whether it is dead...


05 Dec 18 - 04:51 PM (#3965006)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: MudGuard

"I was being ironic, Mudguard."

So was I ;-)


05 Dec 18 - 05:38 PM (#3965017)
Subject: RE: BS: GBP 50 Note: Scientists nominated
From: Donuel

https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/stephen-hawking-had-a-grim-warning-about-donald-trump-before-he-died/ar-BBKccUR

Clearly one of them is a traitor and should never appear on money