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26 Jan 19 - 03:51 PM (#3973598) Subject: yodeling From: Andy7 Does anyone have any tips for improving yodeling technique? After watching various internet videos and practising a lot, I've kind of got it; but I'm not consistent, some days it works, but other days the necessary break between my chest register and head register is hardly there. (I do have a serious reason for asking; I need to be able to yodel reasonably well, for a particular song in my repertoire to work!) |
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26 Jan 19 - 04:06 PM (#3973602) Subject: RE: yodeling From: GUEST,Kenny B(inactive) Practising at full volume and a good deep breath before starting your yodel , Jimmy Rogers songs like "Waitin for a Train" are good ones to start on. Finding the key that give you your maximum range helps too. |
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26 Jan 19 - 04:42 PM (#3973607) Subject: RE: yodeling From: Jack Campin You can go on week-long yodelling workshops in Bavaria. Anyone for a Mudcat group holiday?.... |
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26 Jan 19 - 05:06 PM (#3973610) Subject: RE: yodeling From: Andy7 Yes I'd definitely be up for a Mudcat yodeling holiday! :-) Thanks also for your suggestions, KB. Practising at full volume sounds a good idea, I'll try that in the car on my way to work on Monday! |
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26 Jan 19 - 11:59 PM (#3973631) Subject: RE: yodeling From: leeneia You don't have to have a break when yodeling. Some do it, some don't. Don't give up if you can't master it, because yodeling is good. |
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27 Jan 19 - 03:35 PM (#3973745) Subject: RE: yodeling From: The Sandman GOOGLE BIL HALEY an excellent yodeller |
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27 Jan 19 - 03:42 PM (#3973746) Subject: RE: yodeling From: Jack Campin Ten Hours of Yodelling |
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27 Jan 19 - 06:59 PM (#3973770) Subject: RE: yodeling From: Andy7 Hahaha, pick any point of that 10 hours at random, and he's still singing the same tune! |
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28 Jan 19 - 02:22 PM (#3973864) Subject: RE: yodeling From: leeneia That's true, but it's not the singer's fault. Somebody else took a video of his and copied it over and over. Franz is a good yodeler. |
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28 Jan 19 - 03:09 PM (#3973874) Subject: RE: yodeling From: Andy7 Oh, I didn't realise that. Yes, Franz does have a great technique, as well as having a friendly and relaxed presentation. Melanie Oesch is another very good yodeler, she makes it sound effortless. |
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28 Jan 19 - 06:32 PM (#3973884) Subject: RE: yodeling From: GUEST,Kenny B ( Inactive) If I could only learn to Yodel - Sourdough Slin & Robert Armstrong |
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28 Jan 19 - 07:39 PM (#3973889) Subject: RE: yodeling From: michaelr If at first you don't succeed -- yodel it over again. ;-) |
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28 Jan 19 - 07:45 PM (#3973891) Subject: RE: yodeling From: Andy7 I do have a bit of a problem with a lot of yodeling songs, though. In so many of them - and the Sourdough Slim song is a good example - the main purpose of the song seems to be, hey, look how clever I am at yodeling! You can't do that, can you? Yodeling is a fascinating and versatile vocal technique, with a long and rich history. So it really shouldn't be used only in songs where the performer is just showing off, singing about yodeling with not much other purpose to the song. |
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28 Jan 19 - 07:55 PM (#3973893) Subject: RE: yodeling From: PHJim Cathy Fink is a great yodeler. I recall hearing a program hosted by Artur Black on CBC radio a couple of decades back where she taught Arthur to yodel. She may have an instruction record on Homespun Tapes. |
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29 Jan 19 - 05:56 AM (#3973933) Subject: RE: yodeling From: Jack Campin Yodelling has a very wide distribution when used as the top of a trio or quartet - you get that in the singing of north-west Greece and southern Albania, in Georgia, and sporadically across to Flores in the Malay archipelago. (I have once seen a diffusionist attempt to explain that but it doesn't seem to be online any more). For all of those cultures, solo singing is not a recognized form - maybe you get lullabies but that's it. The idea of yodelling on your own seems to be an isolated spinoff from the much more ancient polyphonic tradition. Maybe the Denisovans invented it? |
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29 Jan 19 - 07:23 AM (#3973951) Subject: RE: yodeling From: clueless don I heard Bill Staines back in the early 1970s - probably the best I've ever heard. I do enjoy this young woman: America's Got Talent Don |
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30 Jan 19 - 12:05 AM (#3974079) Subject: RE: yodeling From: leeneia Hi, Don. I didn't know Bill Staines yodels. I found him on YouTube, and he's good. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v11OQVRUMY I too have enjoyed little Taylor on America's Got Talent. I wonder is she's now a yodeling teenager. |
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30 Jan 19 - 11:00 AM (#3974119) Subject: RE: yodeling From: GUEST,Grishka Male yodelers must not use their head register, but their falsetto. If you are a tenor, transpose the song upwards so that the high notes become unreachable to your normal voice. Still need advice? |
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31 Jan 19 - 05:55 PM (#3974289) Subject: RE: yodeling From: PHJim Here's Roy Rogers yodeling. Great stuff Here are the Riders In The Sky yodeling. |
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01 Feb 19 - 12:55 PM (#3974406) Subject: RE: yodeling From: leeneia Thanks for the links. Both Roy and Doug are great yodelers. Today's tip for yodelers: work out ahead of time what syllables you will be using. It's much more fun when you know what you're going to say. |
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02 Feb 19 - 12:18 PM (#3974569) Subject: RE: yodeling From: leeneia Sourdough Slim teaches how to make "the break." Very good video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPBWac-JFls |
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17 Jul 21 - 02:04 PM (#4113631) Subject: RE: yodeling From: keberoxu No one has mentioned the Frau[e]nfelder Family from the cantons of St. Gallen and Aargau. Amazing, really, since they made such an impact in the United States. "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves," the Walt Disney feature-length animated film that did so much to make Disney a brand name, has a "Silly Song" with yodeling in it (by the dwarves). That song is more like a set-piece, with many moving parts, right down to the orgasmic sneeze from, who else, Sneezy the dwarf. And even the yodeling contribution is complicated. Disney's sound man, a mr. McDonald, did everything but yodel although one account says that Disney MADE him yodel on the soundstage. And, yes, the Fraunfelder Family was involved. So much so, that eventually the Fraunfelder patriarch took the Disney company to court to sue them about the yodels ... the judge threw out the suit, complaining that he, himself, could not tell one yodel from another! (You can't make this stuff up.) For more about this yodeling family quartet and the even larger family from which it came, see the official Fraunfelder website. |
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17 Jul 21 - 07:57 PM (#4113655) Subject: RE: yodeling From: GUEST What it takes is a glottal stop,a clicking sound produced by the larynx. |
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20 Jul 21 - 11:11 AM (#4113895) Subject: RE: yodeling From: leeneia I've been doing more yodeling lately. In the OP, Andy asked for tips. Here are some tips: Yodeling is nothing but fancy singing, with nonsense syllables, ritards, big leaps, long, long notes - whatever you want to do. If you can do the break, fine, but you don't have to. When I followed Slim Whitman's lesson (see link above) I couldn't get the break. But when I made a bigger jump, it worked. Try that. Yodeling varies around the world. You don't have to do cowboy yodeling if you like Swiss yodeling better. You can use any syllables you like. I know one that goes high-ligh-ra, and another that goes hul--dee=yukka, yukka eh. As I said before, you decide on your syllables ahead of time, Yodeling is not improvised. German has umlauts - "round vowels" where you say long a, short e, long e or short i at the back of mouth, then immediately round your lips. This produces an interesting sound which adds to the exotic-ness of a yodel. Other languages do this too. People like yodeling. I have yet to see a video with an audience where the audience didn't show approval for yodeling. |