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17 Feb 19 - 03:00 AM (#3977231) Subject: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,Miranda I've seen one photograph of Williamson on the fiddle from the Corries website. Aside from that, I can't find any footage of him on the violin, nor do I recall finding an audio recording. Does anyone know if a recording or footage exists? Thanks. |
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17 Feb 19 - 02:41 PM (#3977409) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,johnmc The only confirmation i can find is on the Forres Corries Tribute website which has a photo showing a violin among their instruments lying on a table. I don't recall any concerts where a violin was used. |
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17 Feb 19 - 02:49 PM (#3977414) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,kenny A bit like the above from "johnmc", the fiddle is the one [ "folk" ] instrument I can't recall seeing or hearing Roy Williamson ever playing, and yet I'm sure I have seen a photo of him somewhere playing one. I was at the auction of Roy's instruments after he died, and still have the catalogue from that sale somewhere. I will have a look and see if there's a fiddle in there anywhere. |
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02 Mar 19 - 04:55 AM (#3979804) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,ottery Don't know of any footage, but you can hear him playing the fiddle on "Peat, Fire, Flame" to introduce the song Mormons Braes. |
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04 Mar 19 - 12:46 PM (#3980171) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: StephenH Maybe a little tangential to this discussion but I looked through the Corries lps I have and found Ronnie Browne credited with playing fiddle on two tracks on "Kishmul's Galley": "Twa Corbies" and "The Shamrock and the Thistle." |
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04 Mar 19 - 01:10 PM (#3980174) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,johnmc I read his (Ronnie's) excellent autobiography and, I must say, it would lead me to suspect the credits are erroneous. |
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06 Mar 19 - 02:44 AM (#3980429) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,Fasteddy I saw a Corries concert in Dundee way back in the early 80's and Roy played fiddle on one song. |
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06 Mar 19 - 05:46 AM (#3980475) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,Miranda Replying to what Ottery said, Interesting. However, there are a multitude of instruments being played in the recording. I hear the guitar and harmonica, and possibly the accordion if I'm hearing right. If Roy is playing the fiddle, harmonica for either he or Ronnie is plausible, but neither of them could possibly play that and another instrument at the same time. There are sounds from instruments I possibly don't know, and a few instruments the Corries played that operate in a way I don't understand (Combolins), also I often think there are two instruments being played when a Combolin is played. So it's possible that maybe they aren't really playing that many instruments, but I was thinking that maybe someone was playing the other instruments. It wasn't always just the Corries who were playing sometimes too. |
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06 Mar 19 - 06:07 AM (#3980482) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST "It wasn't always just the Corries who were playing sometimes too." Examples, please ? |
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06 Mar 19 - 11:32 AM (#3980553) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,kenny I knew I'd seen him playing a fiddle somewhere. The LP cover of "The Peat Fire Flame" has a montage of photos on the front of the album sleeve. Roy is shown playing a fiddle on the second top left photo. I don't have the recording, so can't say whether or not he plays fiddle on that particular record or not. [ PS - it would appear to be the same photo as is on their website, mentioned by the original poster ]. |
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06 Mar 19 - 02:05 PM (#3980581) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,ottery I see I made an odd typo in my earlier post - I meant of course "Mormond Braes" - no Mormons of any description involved AFAIK. I was about to insist that it must have been Roy who played the fiddle on Mormond Braes based largely on my view? prejudice? that Roy tended to be the more musically adventurous of the two, and that the number of instruments heard on Peat Fire Flame could be accounted for by double tracking. However, I typed "Mormond Braes" into Google and a Youtube recording of the song came up as sung by the Corries. No visuals of course - however, the uploader had put together a string of photos. At 0:59 you can see Ronnie playing some kind of bowed instrument. A bowed psaltery??? See it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtXfQVn1C-4 |
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07 Mar 19 - 11:15 AM (#3980767) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: nigelgatherer The wording on the back of the LP sleeve suggests that they played ALL the instruments on the album: "...The advantage of recording in a studio is the facility of double-tracking, the laying of one track on top of another; thus the Corries who play between them, guitars, pipes, harmonicas, whistles, flutes, concertina, mandolins, boranns [sic], FIDDLE, combolins and a host of ancillaries, jews harp, rubber bands, etc, had a most enjoyable time, in their words 'painting sound pictures', not so enjoyable for the poor recording engineer though!" Alan Spence [the recording engineer :-) ] |
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07 Mar 19 - 11:22 AM (#3980770) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: nigelgatherer I've had a quick listen through the whole album, and I can hear fiddle on two tracks, the aforementioned "Mormond Braes" and "The Poachers". On that evidence Roy was not a bad fiddler, better than his namesake Robin Williamson. |
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22 Mar 19 - 06:33 AM (#3983806) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,kenny I found the auction catalogue of the sale of Roy Williamson's instruments. Item #94 was an "old violin", which sold for £45. No more information than that, I'm afraid, but it would appear that Roy certainly did own at least 1 fiddle. |
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04 Aug 19 - 12:39 AM (#4003221) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,ActiusAquila I've read "Flower of Scotland, Roy Williamson my Father" by Roy's daughter Karen. If I recall correctly there is a part somewhere in the book that details Roy learning to play the fiddle, which if Karen is correct he learned by ear with minimal help from others. Additionally the book states that fiddle was one of the last instruments he learned to play. That explains why you don't hear one in the earlier recordings. Ronnie's book doesn't mention fiddle at all and I don't think he can play it. |
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27 Nov 22 - 09:46 AM (#4158905) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST,It'sMagic Not sure it's actually Roy playing the fiddle on Mormond Braes,though it might have been, as it isn't spectacular fiddling. Unfortunately, I only have the CDs, which don't have much information on them. What I can repeat is that Roy's daughter Karen, in her book, Flower of Scotland - My Father Roy Williamson - said the fiddle was the last instrument he learned, and I don't when that would have been. Ronnie said (in his own autobiography That Guy Fae the Corries) or in an interview somewhere that he didn't play the fiddle, but he scratched a bow against one to make the sinister sound in Twa Corbies. |
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29 Jan 25 - 12:33 PM (#4216201) Subject: RE: Footage of Roy Williamson fiddling? From: GUEST Roy Williamson was a true musician : he had the gift and aptitude to play numerous and varied string instruments. That says it all |