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21 Feb 19 - 08:54 PM (#3978258) Subject: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: robomatic Just watching the liftoff of the SpaceEx rocket with a payload from Israel which will go into an interesting orbit which continually increases in altitude until it intersects the gravitational field of the Moon which captures the spacecraft intended for a soft landing. As I type, the rocket is successfully in second stage burn. You can tune in here |
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21 Feb 19 - 09:24 PM (#3978260) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: Donuel So its going to coast for 3/4 of its journey? That's normal. A spiraling path is too slow for people. The payload also includes one penny to honor a Rabbi. Mission Specialist Nathan asked Rabbi Gherkin, "How much is a penny worth in heaven? Rabbi replied, "$1 million." Nathan asked, "How long is a minute in heaven?" Rabbi said, "One million years." Nathan asked for a penny. Rabbi answered, "Sure, in a minute." |
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22 Feb 19 - 04:36 AM (#3978304) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: Mr Red LOL - was Rabbi Gherkin pickled? |
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22 Feb 19 - 05:49 AM (#3978320) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: Mr Red Watched the video - had to FF some of the boring bits. |
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22 Feb 19 - 02:57 PM (#3978411) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: robomatic Mr. Red, it was less boring when it was live, but I was watching on my laptop and in multi mode, so I was doing other stuff, too. Right now I'm listening to a talk about the mission, which was funded privately, apparently the situation is nominal, spacecraft functioning as expected, and it faces a forty day trip to lunar orbit. A lot of the payload is fuel, so that, I guess, is why this small package is designed to be able to land on its own. |
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22 Feb 19 - 10:06 PM (#3978447) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: lefthanded guitar I think it's fascinating, and at least it's getting some press play. Over the years since the first manned moon landing. ( there were six in all) there doesn't seem ( to me anyway) to be the same coverage of space exploration. Perhaps our sense of wonder has been dulled by watching cable sci fi films on huge hi def tv screens, or from being so mesmerized by the political reality show that plays daily on all channels. I myself only recently learned that Japan landed a space craft on an asteroid. What discoveries will it make? Just amazing. And we recently landed a probe on Mars. Astounding things happening in the world of science and more to come - I for one plan to pay a little more attention. Btw has anyone else encountered any person who thinks the moon landing was a hoax? I can't imagine why this line of thought got started. |
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23 Feb 19 - 01:46 AM (#3978452) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: robomatic Regarding the moon landing a hoax, there is a substantial internet presence of absolutely unscientific nonsense in many places. There is a youtube channel devoted to explaining how jet planes don't need much fuel and we are being robbed by the airlines, that the earth is flat and NASA releases fake pictures of planets and earth curvature. And about a week ago I ran into a young Baptist minister, and when I got into a discussion with him it turned out he had no strong opinion on whether or not the U.S. landed on the moon because he can find realistic internet sites which insist we couldn't have landed on the moon for various reasons. "I know about Einstein and matter transference and time travel." he said at one point. In short, he had no understanding of what science is about, and how to distinguish what is scientific from what is nonsense. |
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23 Feb 19 - 08:53 AM (#3978523) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: EBarnacle Matter transference/duplication is real. It's just a few milligrams at present but it is happening. Simple molecules only. If you look at 3D printing, it is part of where the some of the development is taking place. |
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23 Feb 19 - 11:02 AM (#3978537) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: Mrrzy Mom, fairly newly-escaped from behind the Iron Curtain... Oh, you Americans and your CIA. But after she'd been American for a while longer, it went away, the denial. Where are they landing? There is something about the US trying to protect its landing site and I wondered, against what, exactly? |
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23 Feb 19 - 10:19 PM (#3978641) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: robomatic I believe the small Israeli lander is aimed at the Sea of Serenity. Or, more properly, it is programmed for a soft landing there. From Space.com: The touchdown process will be fully automated and take about 20 minutes, team members said. Beresheet will land on the moon's near side, within the large basaltic plain called Mare Serenitatis ("Sea of Serenity"). |
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24 Feb 19 - 08:14 PM (#3978841) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: EBarnacle I find the name of the lander significant. B'reshis [Ashkenazic pronunciation, as opposed to the "official" Sephardic version]is the first word of the Book of Genesis. It literally translates as [In] the beginning. The entire sentence reads "In the beginning G-d created the heavens and the earth. |
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25 Feb 19 - 09:36 PM (#3979068) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: Mrrzy I love the euphemism "soft landing" ... |
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28 Feb 19 - 04:10 PM (#3979631) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: Donuel Interesting name and all goods points here but no one has addressed the elephant in the spacecraft so I guess I will. Who killed the Jew Jesus? Was it the occupying army of Rome or the Jews. Except for the Romans everyone else in Jerusalem was Jewish. Crucifixion and scourging was strictly a Roman thing. The only thing the Jews did was supply the lumber retail. Christians should be taught that goats don't scape themselves. That is why the Jews were the chosen goats and Rome did not accuse themselves of murder even after Constantine z;^/ |
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28 Feb 19 - 04:49 PM (#3979633) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: Donuel Personally I blame Murry the money launderer. His money changing table was the one Jesus tripped on and knocked over. Murry lost seventeen shekels on that windy day. With inflation that's 2.4 million in today's dollars. Murry owed money to a lawyer in the Tribunal and they made a deal so that everyone would make a shekel or two but in the end the only thing worth selling off was a lousy cup and a stained shirt. Now back to the science. With a new infrared telescope we can now see beyond the dark horizon. That is the part of the universe that expanded so fast and far away that only faint red spectrum signals can now be seen. |
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01 Mar 19 - 07:27 PM (#3979766) Subject: RE: BS: To the Moon Alice!, Er.. I mean, ISRAEL! From: Donuel The amount of our universe that is beyond the dark horizon already is believed to be 250 times larger than the observable universe. From what we can see the universe curves only about .4%, If we are in a least curved portion of the universe. The rest of the 250 times larger universe we can not see, could allow room for a curved universe, which to those in the know is a game changer. In my opinion The driver of an exponentially expanding universe is believed to be negative pressure and not density or local positive pressure. This describes the anti gravity effect which we call dark energy. In their opinion. |