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15 Mar 19 - 12:12 PM (#3982294) Subject: St Paddy's in Paris From: Jack Campin I'll be in Paris on St Patrick's Day. I presume there'll be an Irish session somewhere. Ideas? |
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15 Mar 19 - 01:11 PM (#3982315) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: Tattie Bogle Not sure if they have "jiney-in" sessions but have seen live acoustic musicians in some of the Irish pubs between Pigalle and Folies Bergeres (some years back now!) There was a Corcoran's, O'Neill's and one other. Chatted to the one lot, who sounded Irish enough in their tunes, but were in fact French, and had learned the tunes on a 6-week foray around Ireland! |
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15 Mar 19 - 01:52 PM (#3982322) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: David C. Carter Stolly's Stone Bar 16 Rue Cloche Perce/In The Marais/Metro;Saint Paul,Line A. There is also a Saint Patricks Day Parade. This is the first time ever.It leaves from the Irish Cultural Center. You can find all this on You Tube. Have a good day. |
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16 Mar 19 - 09:13 AM (#3982483) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: beachcomber Tatie Bogle, are you sure that those French musicians were not Bretons. They have many tunes that are quite similar to many Irish ones. Many of them are passionate about their "Celtic" origins too. |
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16 Mar 19 - 11:09 AM (#3982495) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: Tattie Bogle They may have been Breton or from some other part, but they did tell me (in English, tho' I speak French)that they were playing Irish tunes learned in Ireland. I know there are similarities with some of the tunes, especially the more minor key and modal ones. |
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16 Mar 19 - 03:47 PM (#3982541) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: Jack Campin There is essentially zero relationship between Breton music and that of other "Celtic" nations. It has much closer links with music from other French regions, just as Scottish and Irish music are more closely related to English music than anything that's been given a bullshit ethnic label. You wouldn't have a prayer of figuring out the Irish trad repertoire if all you knew was Breton song and dance tunes. Ethnic fantasies make for crap musicology. |
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16 Mar 19 - 04:27 PM (#3982546) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: Tattie Bogle Cheerful as ever, Jack! Let us know how you get on, and any great new discoveries for my next trip to Paris! |
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16 Mar 19 - 07:54 PM (#3982572) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: beachcomber Funny that, Not in fantasy, I have heard Breton fiddlers play both their own and Irish music. Going on what I heard, they did sound very similar in some tunes ? As our former Taoiseach was reputed to have said. "We know now that it is so , in practise, but, does it comply with the theory ??? " :-) |
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17 Mar 19 - 02:00 AM (#3982593) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: Jack Campin Not looking good for parades in Paris after what happened yesterday - maybe the CRS will have some appropriate green teargas. The pub in the Marais looks good. |
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17 Mar 19 - 06:40 AM (#3982619) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: beachcomber There will be others ! |
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17 Mar 19 - 06:20 PM (#3982728) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: GUEST,.gargoyle More Than Biased |
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19 Mar 19 - 11:31 AM (#3983112) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: GUEST I've heard French music from the midlands where every invading force from the Romans forward and back was resisted, which sounded very like Irish music. A lot of French Canadian musicians play Irish tunes too, and they tend to visit France. |
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19 Mar 19 - 11:42 AM (#3983113) Subject: RE: St Paddy's in Paris From: Jack Campin In the end I didn't go to Scolly's - reading between the lines on their website it looked like it would be packed with young drunks. I'm sure there were less commercial things going on, but you'd need a bit of time there to find out. |