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05 May 19 - 10:03 PM (#3990989) Subject: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: leeneia I have been reading about the cooking appliance called an air fryer. I realize that it is a small convection oven with a special shape. It looks handy. Do you own one? Do you like it? What brand is it? |
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05 May 19 - 10:26 PM (#3990991) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Big Al Whittle I got one. the power air fryer. very good if you're dieting. you can do chips without fat or oil. it doesn't dry food like a microwave. quicker and less fuss than the oven. i think they've made some improvements since i got mine. ihaven't done any of the stuff in the recipe book. |
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05 May 19 - 10:39 PM (#3990993) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Stilly River Sage What shape? I've used a bowl-type convection oven for many years (the hot air is blown around from the lid, the "oven" is a large glass bowl it fits over.) |
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06 May 19 - 03:03 AM (#3991002) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: IanW We have one it’s brilliant. We use it constantly. Heats things up much faster than the electric oven. We used our first so much it’s warn out and we are now onto our second. |
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07 May 19 - 09:19 PM (#3991365) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: vectis I have just got one and it is brilliant. Frozen oven chips and roast spuds come out much moister than cooking them in an oven. |
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07 May 19 - 09:59 PM (#3991368) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Mrrzy And yet it IS an oven. Air fryer, humph. Oxymoron. Cooks with hot air = oven. Cooking with hot grease = frying. But great marketing! |
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08 May 19 - 04:19 AM (#3991385) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: BobL So it's essentially a fan oven, only table-top size? |
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08 May 19 - 06:32 AM (#3991404) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Jos I cook oven chips in a deep fat fryer. Try it. |
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08 May 19 - 07:16 AM (#3991411) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Steve Shaw Frozen oven chips are an abomination and are bad for you. Why bother. Instead: Turn up the oven to at least 230C. Scrub spuds but don't peel. "Salad potatoes" are the best, but at a pinch any spud will do. Cut spuds into chip-sized bits. Parboil for seven minutes in well-salted water. Drain in a sieve and allow to stand for a couple of minutes uncovered. Put back in pan, cover with lid and shake to roughen all the edges. Spread chips out on an oven tray (overcrowding is disastrous) that has enough groundnut oil on it to coat the chips plus a little bit extra. Place into hot oven for 20 minutes, tossing them around in the oil half way through. Result: gorgeous healthy chips that haven't absorbed too much oil at all (a lot of it will still be in the tray when you've plated up the chips). Recommended accompaniments: fried eggs or omelette with baked beans, or baked fish with mushy peas. I'm not going to pretend that I've got chips when they've been made without any fat. |
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08 May 19 - 08:09 AM (#3991415) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Jos I used Sainsbury's Maris Piper chunky chips. [Many other varieties are indeed covered by Steve Shaw's first sentence.] |
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08 May 19 - 06:49 PM (#3991505) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Steve Shaw Your Sainsbury's chips ingredients: Potato (91%), Wheat Flour, Sunflower Oil, Cornflour, Rice Flour, Salt What place does flour occupy in a discussion of chips? Three kinds?... |
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08 May 19 - 06:50 PM (#3991506) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Steve Shaw Sorry, last line shouldn't have been in italics. |
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09 May 19 - 12:22 PM (#3991541) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Jos I see your point - I assume it's to produce a crisp coating when cooked in an oven, where the chips are not immersed in fat. (I'm not keen on baked beans, and I think mushy peas are vile. But eggs, omelette or baked fish are fine. I assumed the italics were for emphasis.) |
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09 May 19 - 01:21 PM (#3991547) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Steve Shaw Fried eggs, chips and baked beans constitute manna from heaven. The baked beans may be replaced by black pudding and bacon. A hash brown (or, better, a rosti) and mushrooms are optional. Possibly a pork sausage. The grilled half-tomato oft included is not my idea of fun. I'll use large tomatoes, or tinned plum tomatoes, to make a sauce or soup. My idea of tomatoes as a side dish is to use the best quality cherry tomatoes you can get. Put them into a small baking tray with seasoning, extra virgin olive oil and a handful of torn basil leaves (if you have dried basil, throw it away, though you could use dried oregano). Coat the tomatoes then put into a hot oven for no more than four minutes. They keep their shape but they soften and release all their flavour. Superb with a steak or a home-made burger (which I make with minced steak and nothing else whatsoever: no egg, no seasoning, no mustard and definitely no onion; two and a half minutes per side in a very hot frying pan then a crucial ten minutes' resting). |
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09 May 19 - 02:07 PM (#3991550) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Jos I'm with you on the burger made with minced beef and nothing else. And with the bacon - I cook the mushrooms in the bacon fat. Bacon and egg yolk is one of those combinations that seem to produce an extra, third flavour. Cheese and onion is another - like mixing blue and yellow and getting green. |
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09 May 19 - 02:30 PM (#3991554) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Steve Shaw Agree with all that. The mushrooms often served in caffs or restaurants are all too often grey, thick, rubbery unseasoned abominations sitting in a little pool of rather nasty liquid. I like mine sliced thin, or hacked into smallish chunks, well seasoned and sautéed in hot butter or (as you say) bacon fat. A slice of bread then fried in the fat is very good. I use dried porcini soaking water and the finely-chopped porcini in casseroles and pot roasts, but I never use ordinary mushrooms for that, and I honestly can't see the point of button mushrooms. It's very disappointing when a stack of mushrooms I'm frying almost disappears in a pool of sludge in the frying pan. I've taken to buying the organic ones from Sainsbury's which never seem to do that. |
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09 May 19 - 05:14 PM (#3991570) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Murray MacLeod You appear to be quite the gourmet, Steve. I have always thought that the finest chips (= French fries for our transatlantic cousins) were made using beef dripping. I cannot remember the actual temperatures, but you cook them for X minutes at the lower temp, to blanch, and then for Y minutes at the higher temp. My understanding is that cooking chips this way is actually healthier than the chip shop method of deep frying in oil. I do like your method of oven cooking the chips ... makes sense to me. I will definitely try that, and I look forward to any other culinary tips you choose to post on Mudcat. |
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09 May 19 - 08:28 PM (#3991592) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Steve Shaw I agree about the beef dripping. When my mum had a chippie in the 1950s that's what she used. The Three Fishes at Whalley does chips that way, as does Rick Stein's chippie in Padstow. |
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10 May 19 - 05:01 AM (#3991621) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Jos Aren't French fries those thin straight things like long crispy matchsticks? Very different from chips made of potato chunks the size of your thumb with plenty of recognisable potato in the middle. Don't some chip shops use the double frying method simply for convenience, having a supply of blanched, part cooked chips ready to fry quickly at a high temperature when needed? |
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10 May 19 - 05:02 AM (#3991623) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Jos And I should have added that when I fry my oven chips it is in beef dripping. |
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10 May 19 - 10:53 AM (#3991678) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Mrrzy Jos, those are matchstick [French] fries. Yon French fries can be thick or thin. |
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11 May 19 - 12:44 PM (#3991828) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: leeneia To get back to air fryers, here's a link to a video where the speaker mentions that her Zen air fryer gets so hot in the back that it melted the plastic plate over a wall outlet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYvsTBqJnU0 I'm interested in buying an air fryer, but not one with a quirk like that. That's why I asked catters what brand they own. I'd like to know if other brands have strange characteristics. As I see it, an air fryer would cut fat in my diet, cut grease from spattering skillets, add less heat to the kitchen than an oven, and be easy to clean. (I believe that I would use it to cook meat, mostly.) Do you catters who own one agree with that? What brand do you own? |
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13 May 19 - 09:29 AM (#3992078) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: G-Force You're right; chips are an abomination, but lovely. Our compromise is to only eat them on special occasions. However, I think oven chips are pretty dull so if we're going to have them they had better be good. We therefore add extra salt and oil and do them in the oven. All that grease may kill us but at our age we won't be dying young anymore! |
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15 Jan 25 - 10:44 AM (#4215361) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Mrrzy I just got something for $mas to replace both my microwave and toaster oven, and it is part air fryer. That is, convection oven. Sigh. Recipes? |
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15 Jan 25 - 01:01 PM (#4215375) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Stilly River Sage Just about anything you would bake will do ok in there, just finish sooner. Look for convection oven recipes. |
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15 Jan 25 - 04:35 PM (#4215381) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Mrrzy Virgin no more! Chicken wings. Took a lot longer than I'd have thought but I wouldn't have made them otherwise. Yum. |
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16 Jan 25 - 08:12 PM (#4215437) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Mrrzy I keep either under- or overcooking things. Everything takes way longer than the recipes say. |
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17 Jan 25 - 08:22 AM (#4215450) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: The Sandman I own a hair dryer but not an air fryer |
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18 Jan 25 - 01:29 PM (#4215503) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Bill D Potatoes are easy in air fryer. Many frozen meals (like chicken wings) now have air fryer settings on the package. I have used this salmon trick a number of times. Putting non-stick foil at the bottom is great for a number of things. Makes cleaning easier. |
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21 Jan 25 - 12:41 AM (#4215623) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Stilly River Sage I took a close look at my little toaster oven this evening (it sounds like these air fryer devices are simply smaller convection ovens). I baked chicken thighs on the low rack but wanted to brown them a bit on top so switched to broiler and realized the oven only runs the fan during the bake operation. When broiling I think the fan running would mean less chance of scorching if you're not careful. If that is the way the air fryer operates I can see why they are popular. |
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23 Jan 25 - 09:39 AM (#4215804) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Big Al Whittle if we fry the air -no good will come of it. |
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23 Jan 25 - 03:22 PM (#4215829) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Bill D SRS the differences I use a very small Ninja air fryer. |
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23 Jan 25 - 05:00 PM (#4215835) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Helen We have a medium sized, oven shaped air fryer with an oven function as well. Very useful, but a couple of recipes remain a mystery. Still working on that. It doesn't help that most recipes for air fryers refer to the basket type and not the oven type. When I'm roasting veges I usually roast them with the oven setting and airfry them for a few minutes at the end to make the outside a bit crispier. A tasty dish we discovered a couple of years ago uses the red variety of Australian Sweet Potatoes. An image is shown on the bottom left of that page with the caption "Gold skin, orange flesh, Varieties: Beauregard". Sweet Potato fries The recipe works in the air fryer, but also the good old fashioned "fry it in oil" method. We use olive oil so it is sort-of healthy - well healthier than other oil/frying alternatives. :-D They are seriously yummy, especially with garlic aioli. One of my favourite dishes now, even on its own and not just as a side dish. |
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23 Jan 25 - 05:49 PM (#4215838) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Stilly River Sage Helen, that Good Housekeeping video comparing the devices is interesting. (I let it keep going and also got tips on loading the dishwasher - I do it correctly - and on deep fryers - I have a little funky old one to make occasional falafel.) I cook with pans and oil, and because of the keto aspects of the diet, the oil is actually an important part of a recipe. So using one of these to avoid oil would be counter-productive. But I can see why they're so popular. Thanks! |
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23 Jan 25 - 06:20 PM (#4215839) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Helen SRS, the air fryer recipe for sweet potato fries still uses oil. It just takes away the huge oil hit of deep frying but I seem to have more consistent success with frying. I'm working on it. I was trying to remember the other name that the orange sweet spuds are known as in Oz. I just scrolled to the bottom of the first page I linked to and it is there: kumara, with the explanation that that is the Maori (i.e. First Nations people of New Zealand) name for it. It is known by both names here. |
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24 Jan 25 - 01:25 AM (#4215864) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Helen Hi Stilly, where was the Good Housekeeping video? Was it on one of the pages I linked to or somewhere else in this thread? |
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24 Jan 25 - 03:08 PM (#4215892) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Stilly River Sage It was right there on the page you linked to. |
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24 Jan 25 - 03:38 PM (#4215894) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Helen Glad to be of service to others without knowing it! :-) I have an ad blocker so it didn't show up for me. |
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24 Jan 25 - 03:42 PM (#4215896) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Helen And a pop-up blocker. |
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25 Jan 25 - 03:30 PM (#4215946) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Nigel Parsons "Who owns an air fryer?" the person who purchased it! |
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25 Jan 25 - 03:43 PM (#4215947) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Haruo I have an air fryer but have never taken it out let alone used it. An old (70~71) highschool classmate was downsizing and gave it to me a few months ago. So even though I have one, I'm on leenea's side of the question. |
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25 Jan 25 - 05:35 PM (#4215954) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Stilly River Sage Helen, I also have those ad and popup blockers but was able to see it. Maybe try using a US IP address if you have VPN. It was a helpful video. |
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25 Jan 25 - 08:31 PM (#4215962) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Helen Thanks Nigel. I have been reading a silly joke book recently and that one is probably in there somewhere. :-D Stilly, I bought this very cheap book when we first got the airfyer/oven. Best Ever Airfryer Cookbook I don't know if it is available anywhere outside Oz, and it does give cooking instructions for a basket-style airfryer but it has some good recipes and the temperature settings and cooking times are a good guide. I made an index of the recipes and we have tried out some of them with success: Bread/pastry Sweet potato chips Bread/pastry Garlic bread Bread/pastry Mushroom pastry parcels Bread/pastry Chicken nuggets Bread/pastry Bacon & eggs Bread/pastry Salted breadsticks Bread/pastry Strawberry tarts Bread/pastry Hash browns Bread/pastry Sour cream dipping sauce Bread/pastry Spinach & cheese rolls Bread/pastry Potato rosti Bread/pastry Chicken pot pies Bread/pastry Coconut prawns Bread/pastry Mozzarella & salami rolls Bread/pastry Tomato dipping sauce Bread/pastry Chicken Kiev Bread/pastry Crumbed veal schnitzel Bread/pastry Fish burgers Bread/pastry Herbed potato wedges Bread/pastry Crispy wonton strips Bread/pastry Beer battered fish Bread/pastry Crunchy fish balls Easy Macaroni cheese Easy Simple chicken breast Easy Mini quiches Easy Potato pizza Easy Pigs in blankets Easy Garlic prawns Easy Sun dried tomato pesto Easy Chicken Parmigiano Easy Salmon & green beans Easy Broccoli & salmon casserole Easy Garlic chicken pizza Easy Pizza quesadilla Easy Cheeseburgers Easy Cheesy sloppy Joes Easy Jacket potatoes Easy Cheese crackers Easy Zucchini croquettes Easy Tomato ginger sauce Lunchbox Spinach muffins Lunchbox Mini pizzas Lunchbox Cheesy pastries Lunchbox Salmon Wellington Lunchbox Ricotta & spinach rolls Lunchbox Tomato toast Lunchbox Chickpea salad Lunchbox Pumpkin pirozhki Lunchbox Corn fritters Lunchbox Lamb bahn mi burger Lunchbox Cheese & bacon scrolls Lunchbox Zucchini & carrot muffins Lunchbox Leek & mushroom tart Lunchbox Cauliflower meatballs Lunchbox Yoghurt tahini sauce Lunchbox Potato croquettes Lunchbox Chicken & vegetable pies Lunchbox Spanakopita Lunchbox Scotch eggs Lunchbox Caesar salad Lunchbox Italian salad Lunchbox Corned beef sandwich Lunchbox Philly cheesesteaks Meat Roasted chicken thighs Meat Dill pickle sauce Meat Korean chicken Meat Crumbed barramundi Meat Lamb burger Meat Chicken & mushroom cass Meat Spicy pork ribs Meat Sticky wings Meat Chicken meatballs Meat BBQ pork ribs Meat Stuffed meatloaf Meat Garlic chicken Meat Swedish meatballs Meat Lingonberry sauce Meat Shepherd’s pie Meat Chicken tacos Meat Fish cakes Meat Empanadas Meat Blackened salmon Meat Hot dogs Meat Steak sandwich Meat Lamb chops Meat Pork belly Meat Cheese & herb meatballs Meat Bacon wrapped chicken bites Meat Pork & sage sausages Meat Chicken & parsley meatballs Veggies Bacon wrapped zucchini fries Veggies Chilli lime radishes Veggies Cauliflower arancini Veggies Garlic & thyme sweet potatoes Veggies Rosemary roast potatoes Veggies Cauliflower bites Veggies Stuffed pumpkin Veggies Bacon wrapped stuffed mushrooms Veggies Miso eggplant slices Veggies Eggplant schnitzel Veggies Yoghurt sauce Veggies Honey glazed carrots Veggies Mint yoghurt sauce Veggies Beetroot chips Veggies Mediterranean vegetables Veggies Stuffed capsicums Veggies Cauliflower fritters Veggies Spicy zucchini boats Veggies Sweet potato w. quinoa salad & spicy chickpeas Veggies Onion rings Veggies Roasted red cabbage Veggies Roasted garlic GF Cornflake cookies GF Seeded bread GF Cauliflower crust pizza GF Polenta fries GF Crumbed rack of lamb GF Honey muffins GF Chicken & vege patties GF Garlic broccoli GF Parmesan chicken wings GF Ranch dip GF Quinoa crusted chicken GF Zucchini loaf GF Tomato pie GF Sesame crusted chicken GF Crispy crumbed tofu GF Chocolate banana muffins GF Banana bread GF Choc chip cookies GF Crispy chicken tenders GF Stuffed chicken breasts GF Cheesy chicken bites Snacks Mini cheese scones Snacks Peanut butter loaf Snacks Banana muffins Snacks Choc sesame cookies Snacks Granola bites Snacks Cinnamon pecans Snacks Popcorn Snacks Cinnamon pecans Snacks Cinnamon rolls Snacks Pumpkin seed crackers Snacks Pizza buns Snacks Carrot cake cookies Snacks Crumbed cauliflower bites Snacks Sweet potato egg boats Snacks Vege pizzas Snacks Cheese puffs Snacks Potato & sausage skewer Snacks Nutty carrot muffins Snacks Mushrooms & cheese on toast Snacks Apple chips Snacks Asparagus parcels Sweet M&Ms cookies Sweet Peach & cherry pies Sweet Biscotti Sweet Pumpkin cake Sweet Peach & cinnamon pies Sweet Sandwich cookies Sweet Ricotta fritters Sweet Caramelised nuts Sweet Cinnamon doughnuts Sweet Strawberry cobbler Sweet Choc cookies Sweet Strawberry kolaches Sweet Baked pears with ricotta Sweet Apple rings Sweet Choc brownies Sweet Pear walnut pizza Sweet Strawberry pastries Sweet Crumble cake |
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28 Jan 25 - 09:33 PM (#4216162) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Stilly River Sage Amazon had the little Dash air fryer at the top of the sale list - and it says it has a non-stick coating. PTFE. So I looked up PTFE. And found this: Are Teflon and PTFE the same thing? Essentially, the only difference lies in the name. PTFE is the shortened name of the chemical polytetrafluoroethylene, and Teflon is the trade name of the same polymer. If you are looking for a highly flexible, non-stick material that is chemical, electrical and thermal resistant, look no further than PTFE. So nope. Not gonna start cooking on Teflon. |
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29 Jan 25 - 01:37 AM (#4216165) Subject: RE: BS: who owns an air fryer? From: Helen SRS, the oven-style airfryer is good. Not a speck of Teflon in sight. Just a metal oven with different settings. We can use whichever trays we like. I made a beef and Guinness stew last week and then used the leftover stew for pies. I put frozen puff pastry in little cast iron pots, the same size as ramekins, really good for making garlic prawns, etc. I pre-cooked the base of the pastry in the pots - weighted down with ceramic pie beads - added the stew and then put the pastry on top and cooked the pie tops to a lovely crispy finish. My trick with beef & Guinness stew is frying some cubes of carrot and orange coloured sweet potato and then adding the pre-fried onions, garlic and stewing beef cubes. Add about a cup or so of Guinness/stout and enough beef stock to cover, a pinch of salt and then stew it slowly for a couple of hours. My other secret trick is to sprinkle the beef with about a tablespoon of Ras el Hanout, Mediterranean spice mix before frying it. There are lots of different variations of that spice mix. I bought the last packet from a Middle Eastern grocery shop. Yum! |