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18 May 19 - 01:31 PM (#3992878) Subject: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: punkfolkrocker Wow.. I was just reading about the effect some modern munition shells can have on tank crews... Blam.. a shell hits the turret, shoots a jet of white hot liquid metal inside igniting all combustables.. In the same instant the shock wave creates a sudden vacuum that can suck a body inside out.. Then all the sizzling meat gets liquidised as air pressure spurts it out the small exit hole on the other side of the turret... All within a split second... F@ck me.. imagine sitting down at your desk at the start of a day's work and thinking that one up... Beats working in a double glazing tele sales office... |
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18 May 19 - 02:24 PM (#3992889) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: keberoxu File under: war is hell ? |
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18 May 19 - 02:33 PM (#3992892) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Jack Campin Look up the USS Iowa gun turret explosion, 1989. Probably the fastest and most thorough suicide of all time. |
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18 May 19 - 05:26 PM (#3992924) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Mrrzy But it's *honorable* (sigh/barf). |
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18 May 19 - 08:58 PM (#3992951) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Joe Offer Makes a rather messy funeral. |
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18 May 19 - 11:52 PM (#3992961) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: punkfolkrocker "What did you do at work today honey..??" "Well.. nothing special.. oh.. after lunch I did devise an anti tank shell that instantaneously cooks, sucks inside out, and liquidises human beings.." "That's nice dear.. fancy a hot cuppa tea while I'm cooking dinner..." ...I suppose you'd get used to it if it pays the mortgage...??? |
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19 May 19 - 02:15 AM (#3992963) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Dave Hanson The inventor of the AK 47 Mikhail Kalashnikov was made a ' Hero of the Soviet Union ' for inventing a device that has killed thousands of people. What a feckin world we live in. Dave H |
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19 May 19 - 02:45 AM (#3992968) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Mr Red why do you think they like drones so much? |
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20 May 19 - 12:37 PM (#3993135) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Donuel give that man a Nobel peace prize |
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20 May 19 - 12:43 PM (#3993136) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: gillymor At least it sounds like a quick death. Have you ever seen the WW2 documentaries with film of tankers climbing out of their vehicles ablaze. |
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20 May 19 - 01:08 PM (#3993141) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Jack Campin You don't need to go back to WW2. That was what the Americans did to the column of Iraqi armour as they were retreating from Basra on their way to overthrow Saddam (which the US wasn't about to permit). Thousands burned to death. |
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20 May 19 - 01:18 PM (#3993143) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: punkfolkrocker gillymor - yeah.. for a pacifist, I have a very keen morbid curiosity for warfare, and militay hardware.. Probably because I was a boy in the 1960s growing up brainwashed on a diet of heroic war movies, TV series, and comics... One of the earliest books I remember looking through was my Dad's big collection of WW2 photo journalism.. titled something like "Greatest War Photos" It was completely graphic and uncensored.. No one seemed to mind me seeing those images of reality in the early 1960s.. Unlike today's utterly sanitised, over protective and non offensive mass news media... |
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20 May 19 - 01:21 PM (#3993144) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: punkfolkrocker Jack - that was when newspapers could still print such images of the horrific consequences of war... Now it's all so tastefully pixilated and edited... |
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20 May 19 - 02:28 PM (#3993153) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Nigel Parsons Yes, ideally war should be unnecessary. But, if man must kill man, surely a method which minimises the suffering of the victim is preferable. Choose between: They are our enemies. We must kill them to prevent them killing our men, and we will make them suffer agonies. Or: They are our enemies, we will kill them to prevent them killing us, but will do so as humanely as possible. |
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20 May 19 - 02:36 PM (#3993155) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: punkfolkrocker Have flame throwers been outlawed by any international conventions...??? |
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20 May 19 - 02:54 PM (#3993161) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Iains Though flamethrowers aren’t entirely banned, you can’t use them to fry your enemies, according to Protocol III of the Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons. This clause prohibits the use of incendiary weapons on people. You can, however, use them to clear foliage. Surprisingly thermobaric bombs are legal. They create a plasma cloud that has a long dwell time and the resultant overpressure wave creates fearsome tissue damage. |
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20 May 19 - 04:54 PM (#3993175) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Mr Red Then there is infra-sound, it resonates in the body, ruptures soft tissues, and people die of hemorrhaging. And ultra-sonics can create similar fields. The equipment for both is not that portable, but on a vehicle maybe. But drones are simpler, and expendable. |
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21 May 19 - 09:22 AM (#3993253) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Donuel A morbid curiosity is normal. People can not help rubber necking to see the grotesque, the insane and horrible. If they did not, people would not have taken a second look at Trump. |
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21 May 19 - 05:38 PM (#3993330) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Mrrzy What about the pain gun? And y surely, if you want to kill, you want those you kill to suffer agonies. |
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21 May 19 - 09:39 PM (#3993344) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: robomatic I'm still shakin' my head over the merry little man who invented the bump-stock, got the Feds to allow it, and turned a respectable little business out of turning semi-automatics to effective automatics by doing an end-run around the mechanics of it all. |
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24 May 19 - 07:47 PM (#3993794) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Raedwulf Back in the day, standard military bore was 0.303" / 7.62mm. Now it's 0.556mm (0.22"). Ever wonder why? Military doctrine shifted post-WWII. There's the obvious "We can make more of the smaller ammo from the same amount of metal", but that's not the reason. Military doctrine now is "wound, not kill". A dead body is a dead body. A wounded soldier will lie there screaming in pain & upsetting his mates. Someone may become another casualty trying to rescue him. All casualties, if they can be recovered from a battlefield, require care, soaking up manpower & resource, draining the enemy's materiel. A corpse doesn't do that. So shoot them with smaller ammo. Nasty, but true... |
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24 May 19 - 08:48 PM (#3993800) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Donuel War is for drama queens, killer kings and merry little men like the bump stock Baron. |
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24 May 19 - 09:04 PM (#3993803) Subject: RE: BS: sucked off, cooked, & liquidfied From: Donuel Hey Joey, do you like gladiator movies? |
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25 May 19 - 02:12 PM (#3993925) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Nigel Parsons From: Raedwulf - PM Date: 24 May 19 - 07:47 PM Back in the day, standard military bore was 0.303" / 7.62mm. Now it's 0.556mm (0.22"). 0.303 inches is more that ten times as big as 0.22 inches? Need to work on conversion rates there. |
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25 May 19 - 02:22 PM (#3993927) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: punkfolkrocker ""wound, not kill"" I actually already knew that.. shows I have an unhealthy interest in weaponry and warfare... But then, maybe that makes me a more effective pacifist...??? |
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25 May 19 - 03:16 PM (#3993937) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: Dave Hanson If you know anything about military actions you will know that soldiers are taught to aim at the largest area on the body of an enemy, this is called the MPI [ mean point of impact ] ie. the centre of the chest, a wounded enemy can shoot back, a dead one can't. I was taught this as a young British soldier, thanfully I never had to do it. Dave H |
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25 May 19 - 03:27 PM (#3993938) Subject: RE: BS: sucked inside out, cooked, & liquidised. From: punkfolkrocker Depends on the wound - shattered or missing limbs and bleeding out, incapacitate a wounded soldier and distract his loyal close buddies... It all adds to the genreal confusion and panic of an opposing side in battle... Maybe infantry are instructed in text book shoot to kill, but weapons designers go for inflicting maximum injuries.. eg, land mines... |