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03 Jun 19 - 11:17 AM (#3995103) Subject: Seeking Permission to cover songs on CD From: GUEST,Fyldeplayer Im sure there is a simple way to achieve this (?) rather than my process which is to contact directly or through agency to the songwriter. A bit of luck though, Pete Morton played our local club and gave my wife permission in person. More amazingly, Ashley Hutchings agency got hold of him and he gave a very positive approval - all in the space of a couple of hours! If my email to John Tams can be resolved as quickly that would really help. |
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03 Jun 19 - 11:42 AM (#3995108) Subject: RE: Seeking Permission to cover songs on CD From: Jack Campin You don't need permission. You just need to make sure the writers get paid. |
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03 Jun 19 - 04:45 PM (#3995155) Subject: RE: Seeking Permission to cover songs on CD From: GUEST You do need permission if there is copyright material (licensing is required) - also crediting for airplay so royalties can be paid to the song owners on any general broadcasting or recording into shows. If in the Uk, and the songs are copyright and published - you probably would simply license the material used on the CD through the MCPS who represent writers and publishers. Go to their website PRS/MCPS alliance. It depends who has been assigned the collection rights to a song. If you have trad. material obviously you are just paying yourself. |
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03 Jun 19 - 06:23 PM (#3995170) Subject: RE: Seeking Permission to cover songs on CD From: GUEST "You do need permission" - No you don't - Three CDs released to date mostly covers you look up and list the copyright material, tell the PRS/MCPS, who owns copyright of what and how many CDs are being made and pay up. NO PRIOR PERMISSION REQUIRED. |
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03 Jun 19 - 07:13 PM (#3995174) Subject: RE: Seeking Permission to cover songs on CD From: GUEST,Starship Permission is required from the writer if the song has not been released. |
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03 Jun 19 - 08:09 PM (#3995179) Subject: RE: Seeking Permission to cover songs on CD From: GUEST Licensing by definition is seeking permission. If a first recording if a fresh song, Starship is right you need to go directly to the owner for a first license approval. Otherwise in the UK most parties license via the MCPS. The MCPS act as go betweens, in effect giving permission on behalf of the copyright owners by granting a license, SO when it comes to CD's PERMISSION IS required. Trad. repertoire doesn't need anybody's permission. Though obviously it is to a performer's advantage to have the tracks officially licensed and released so that airplay can be distributed. |
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04 Jun 19 - 06:42 AM (#3995208) Subject: RE: Seeking Permission to cover songs on CD From: Howard Jones If you are getting the CDs made professionally (rather than burning off CD-ROMS yourself) the manufacturer will want to see a licence from MCPS. This is straightforward, you give them a list of the songs on the album and they work out the royalties, you pay the fee and they give you the licence. There's a form of words you need to put on the CD label to show it's been licenced. That's all the permission you need (unless, as already pointed out, the song hasn't been recorded before) provided the songwriter is a member of MCPS. Where a songwriter isn't a member of MCPS it gets more difficult, as MCPS then aren't interested. Then you need to contact the songwriter directly and agree any royalty payment direct with them. Where a song is traditional or out of copyright you don't need permission and don't pay a fee. I suspect that Morton, Hutchings and Tams are members of MCPS so although they may have given you their blessing you may find that MCPS will still charge a royalty. If you want to get paid for any airplay you need to register separately with PPL. This protects the rights of the artists (and others involved in the production) in their own performance, so when your album is played on-air or in public you can be paid (the songwriter will be rewarded separately via PRS). This is for the UK. Other countries have similar rights organisations which no doubt work in a similar way. I believe it's more complicated in the USA where there are several competing rights organisations. |
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04 Jun 19 - 08:21 AM (#3995218) Subject: RE: Seeking Permission to cover songs on CD From: Acorn4 What if it's a poem that is out of copyright but someone has written a tune to it? |
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04 Jun 19 - 09:24 AM (#3995223) Subject: RE: Seeking Permission to cover songs on CD From: Howard Jones Then the royalty due for that track would be apportioned and the tune composer would get a share but the lyrics would be royalty-free. |
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07 Jun 19 - 04:52 AM (#3995488) Subject: RE: Seeking Permission to cover songs on CD From: JHW "Where a songwriter isn't a member of MCPS it gets more difficult, as MCPS then aren't interested." I found this but hope I sorted it. I did find what I was sure was a song by DG wrongly credited to someone else. DG confirmed but simply said "Send me a copy". The CD manufacturer provided the contact for royalties, which had to be paid before the CD production. |