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28 Aug 19 - 06:46 PM (#4006281) Subject: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: beachcomber Am I nuts ? I would love to learn to play guitar in DADGAD tuning.I am an old guy and a bit afraid that it would be beyond me. For instance what would the chord shapes be to accompany that beautiful love song DONAL OG, mentioned in an earlier thread ? |
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28 Aug 19 - 06:52 PM (#4006283) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: meself I played a lot of DADGAD for awhile - and I just figured out my own chords. Experiment; that's half the fun of it. |
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28 Aug 19 - 07:08 PM (#4006289) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: GUEST,Starship Go to Google Images with a search of DADGAD Many charts available to show chord structures. But as meself said, experimenting is half the fun. |
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28 Aug 19 - 08:34 PM (#4006295) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: Nick There is a free sample Tutorial by Tony McManus which is a good intro. And I see at the same site there is a how to play Donal Og tutorial. However I also see there is a video on YouTube of someone playing Donal Og (Tony McManus cover) which I would guess is the same. But it is not in DADGAD it looks to me as dropped D. So if it is just for that tune it might not be necessary. But if it is more general then indeed get a few chords off the net and then have an experiment. Or his a third option. Get a spider capo or partial capo so that you just have the second fret covered on the third, fourth and fifth strings and you will have a set up that sounds like DADGAD but can play the chords you already know... |
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28 Aug 19 - 11:06 PM (#4006300) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: lefthanded guitar I've been meaning to learn some DADGAD songs for years. Kept putting it off. Maybe this thread will spur me into action. What I' m wondering is; are there any well known songs - traditional folk, roots (aka Americana) or folk-rock songs - that are usually played in this tuning? I would imagine artists like Joni Mitchell or Pentangle might have used this tuning. |
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29 Aug 19 - 03:45 AM (#4006313) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: GUEST,Dtm I find I quickly get bored out my skull with DADGAD, both using it or listening to it. But that's just me. Each to their own. |
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29 Aug 19 - 04:37 AM (#4006322) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: David C. Carter Bobert(Where is he)sent me a tuning:EBEBBE.He warned me,that once in it, I wouln't want to come out of it;he was right!Took me months.lol. Can't recall how I used it.Don't go there! He's a good man. |
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29 Aug 19 - 05:03 AM (#4006327) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: GUEST,Gilly Beware, you'll soon need a second guitar for DADGAD, then another for open G and so on. This way lies GAS and madness. . . |
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29 Aug 19 - 05:39 AM (#4006336) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: JHW As above I just made up my own chords. Find its just the job for some songs but (also as above) I eventually got a further guitar to leave in open tuning. Got a resonator. |
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29 Aug 19 - 07:25 AM (#4006352) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: beachcomber Oh Guest Gilly, I am still laughing, many hours after your post. As it happens I do have a second guitar that could be "sacrificed" to the evil one (DADGAD ?) but I thank you Nick for your info. Age - ed or not I'll give it a go :-) I prefer to be instructed, you see, as my musical abilities would not run to "composition", even of chords, I'm afraid :-) Thanks everybody who posted, it is encouraging. |
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29 Aug 19 - 10:27 AM (#4006382) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: GUEST,Jerry Try these for starters, reading bottom to top string: D 000200 or 004200 or 004255 G 020020 A7 202002. Whether it frees you up to explore a range of new sounds, or conversely restricts you to rather similar sounds in a limited range of keys, is a matter of personal opinion. |
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29 Aug 19 - 12:50 PM (#4006402) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: Stanron If you know the notes in the chords you want to play you could use a fretboard chart that shows which notes are where in DADGAD. I tried to post one but the spacing went wrong and I can't remember how to set a mono spaced font on here. If someone can remind me how to do it I'll post the chart. However knowing the names of notes is not essential, you can experiment. People who make up their own chords might experiment with bits of chord shapes from other tunings. If they like the sound of what they get they use it and if not they try again. Part of the charm in alternate tunings is in the use of open strings with the fretted strings. Look at the open strings. You will see a couple of examples of octaves on non adjacent strings. These octaves continue as you go up the fretboard. You can fret the same fret on the 6th and 4th strings and and get two notes an octave apart. Experiment with that and playing some open strings at the same time. Play the 3rd fret on the second string and the 4th fret on the fourth string with the open strings and you get D7. Slide them both up two frets and you get D add2 or, as some people call it D add9. In some places playing both strings at the same fret might sound good. You can experiment and trust your ears if you like what you hear. |
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29 Aug 19 - 01:14 PM (#4006406) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: Stanron Well this looks OK in the preview. Let's hope it will work for real. DADGAD fretboard chart I now use Linux on my home PC and Linux saves these diagrams as they are. I created then in Windows and found that the default encoding in Windows means it does not save these charts well. You should be able to copy the chart into a text editor like Notepad. If you just try and save it you will get an error message and the chart will change to dashed lines. Instead of Save use Save As and look for the encoding box. Change it from Ansi to Unicode or Unicode 8. |
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29 Aug 19 - 01:19 PM (#4006407) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: Stanron Well that's not how it looked in preview but the information is readable. It looks as if it has been reverted to Ansi encoding. This is how it would have looked in Windows without saving it with Unicode encoding. |
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29 Aug 19 - 06:45 PM (#4006459) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: Nick I mentioned that you can create a DADGAD-like sound quite easily without learning anything much new. Here's a little tune linked a the bottom that I was messing around with when I got a spidercapo (£5ish off ebay so not a proper branded one but I thought I'd just have a try of one - two are even more interesting. Here's an example of someone playing with two in an Emaj13 tuning). The guitar is tuned normally and the tune is just a standard D shape and an A shape with a few other bits and pieces. But it does have a sound that is not dissimilar to DADGAD but without the bother of retuning :) I'll finsh it off sometime but it's a quick example of how to play mock DADGAD (there are lots of things that you can't do that you can do in normal DADGAD though) Lindsey's Spider |
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29 Aug 19 - 07:14 PM (#4006462) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: gillymor You can get a comprehensive DADGAD chord chart pdf by pasting this into a google search box- benfarmer.co.uk › wp-content › uploads › 2012/07 › Dadgad. I play Donal Og in Dropped-D after the Tony MacManus version. Tried it in DADGAD but couldn't make it work. The chords used are basically just D G Bm and A. |
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29 Aug 19 - 07:53 PM (#4006467) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: saulgoldie "Beware, you'll soon need a second guitar for DADGAD, then another for open G and so on. This way lies GAS and madness." Hmmmm, this gives me an idea...(Uh-oh!) Saul |
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30 Aug 19 - 04:07 AM (#4006495) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: Eric the Viking "The dead good DADGAD book", by Phil Mathison is perfect for the DADGAD player's library as is "The Irish DADGAD Guitar book" by Sarah McQuaid. On you tube , Ian Stephenson, (422 and others, previously a Mudcater, lecturer on the Folk degree course) gives an introduction to DADGAD. The Shubb partial capo emulates somewhat but ........ |
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30 Aug 19 - 06:43 AM (#4006522) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: Eric the Viking You also try double dropped D. ( both E strings tuned down to D) |
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30 Aug 19 - 09:59 AM (#4006546) Subject: RE: Chord Req: Learning DADGAD From: Nick I have had some fun playing in DADGAD since you mentioned it. And planning to go and see Sarah McQuaid in November - her book is good too. Here's a little no risk suggestion. I have no personal interest in recommending it I just think it is a brilliant resource which I only came across relatively recently. I like it enough to have subscribed to it - full streamed access to everything on it is about £10/$12 a month at the moment which I think is great value. Whether I use it or not now I've bought it is a different matter :) but... It's Truefire and it has two Tony McManus Celtic guitar courses and a Pierre Benusan class on DADGAD. Each of them are really well resourced with tab - slow down - play along - etc etc and each are several hours worth of structured tuition You can get a 30 day trial to All Access streaming for the princely sum of NOTHING. At least worth a lot. Back to planning what I am going to learn over the next year :) |