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Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Bure / Buir

22 Sep 19 - 06:23 PM (#4009963)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: Joe Offer

From email

Hello,

I thought I already had an account, but apparently not. Thanks for the work you do in sharing knowledge. I’ve found it very useful so far.

I’d like to join so I can make an enquiry about a song someone sang to me called something like :The Old Buir (sp?) Pike, which started:

“As I went down the Icknield Way
to see the wise old pike of Buir”

I can’t find a trace and would like to ask if any of the other members know of it and can give me more details.

Kind regards


22 Sep 19 - 08:05 PM (#4009975)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: GUEST,Starship

Joe, could the Buir word have been Stour?? And what was the song about??


23 Sep 19 - 02:30 AM (#4009988)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: Gurney

The only animate being called a pike that I've heard of is a predatory freshwater fish, although sometimes soldiers are called after their weapons.


23 Sep 19 - 09:01 AM (#4010022)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: Jeri

I'm wondering why this person can't ask the question themself, and whether it's just another unique way to troll - get Joe to do it for you. Or the "Wise Old Pike" actually IS the Icknield Way.
In any case: The Project Gutenberg eBook, The Icknield Way, by Edward Thomas, Illustrated by A. L. Collins Plenty of verse, but I don't see the quoted bit.


23 Sep 19 - 09:08 AM (#4010023)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: GUEST,Starship

I wondered the same, Jeri. There have been a few requests from various 'guests' that do seem designed to waste someone's time. Now I ask a question back and if there's no answer I quit looking/wasting time on the request.


23 Sep 19 - 06:35 PM (#4010108)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: Joe Offer

Requests are the life blood of Mudcat. This person asked ME the question. I'm traveling, and didn't have an answer, so I posted the question for discussion. Seemed like an intelligent question to me. No need to get grouchy about it. Do you prefer the Brexit squabbles in the BS section? Joe


23 Sep 19 - 06:49 PM (#4010109)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: GUEST,Starship

Have a nice day, Joe.


23 Sep 19 - 09:40 PM (#4010127)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: Jeri

Joe, there's no reason the person couldn't have asked the question himself. It's just weird to ask you to do it, but if that's ok with you...


24 Sep 19 - 07:13 AM (#4010207)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)

Perhaps he thought that he couldn't post a question if he wasn't a member (see his email to Joe and the fact that Joe's refreshed the How To Join thread!).

Mick


18 Aug 20 - 10:57 AM (#4068727)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: GUEST,Khair-un-Nisa

As I remember I did try to post and wasn't able. I'm still looking for the song. Definitely not a troll - not sure why anyone would think that.

I think the song contains the advice given by the wise old pike.


19 Aug 20 - 10:49 AM (#4068832)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: leeneia

Trolls don't say things like "Thanks for the work you do in sharing knowledge. I’ve found it very useful so far."

I checked my unabridged dictionary, but there are only two cases where a pike refers to a person. One is a soldier who is armed with a pike, the other is a shiftless farmer. I suppose a shiftless farmer could grow old and wise in time.


30 Apr 24 - 08:11 AM (#4201818)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Buir
From: GUEST

I've been able to find the first verse. If anyone knows any more verses, please post them. Notice I was wrong in thinking it was Buir, it's actually Bure.

As I went down the Icknield Way
To see the Wise Old Pike of Bure
And see if what he had to say
Would all my woes and worries cure
Woes and worries and the life and the like
Woes and worries and the like

With an I don’t know and a don’t ask me
And a who can tell and a wait and see
That wise old pike he answered me.


01 May 24 - 12:33 PM (#4201875)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Bure / Buir
From: Joe Offer

Refresh. Anybody have more information? Google is leading me to a poem titled "Pike" by Ted Hughes, husband of Sylvia Plath, but I can't find the poem itself and can't tell if Google is misleading me.

-Joe-


01 May 24 - 02:19 PM (#4201881)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Wise Old Pike of Bure / Buir
From: Joyce Simmonds

The Ted Hughes poem appears to be a red herring, but if anyone can help with this request I should be grateful. There is a River Bure in Norfolk, so the song may come from there.