BS: Somebody nicked my name

25 Sep 19 - 08:31 PM (#4010539)
Subject: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle

I've been a Mudcatter for many's the year,
But something's annoying me, that's very clear,
'Cos somebody's nicked my respected false name,
And the stuff that (s)he posts makes me curl up with shame.
But it's no, nay, never,
Not on Mudcat, but who
Writes there in "The Scotsman"
Tattie Bogle no 2?

This dreadful impostor would make you lament
The garbage (s)he spews out with which I dissent,
My friends they have asked me, "Is that really you?"
I canna believe you would think it was true.
Chorus...and so on.

So, yes, after nearly 20 years as a Mudcatter known as Tattie Bogle, there is another Tattie Bogle, definitely not me, who writes the most outrageous horrible trolling comments under articles in The Scotsman online newspaper. I do not wish to be associated in any way with this lowlife, so, with some regret, I am seriously thinking of asking Joe to re-register me in my real name, which quite a few of you know anyway. I have never felt the need to hide behind a pseudonym: it was just that, at rhe time I joined Mudcat, people were encouraged to adopt them.
Trish

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25 Sep 19 - 08:38 PM (#4010541)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: ChanteyLass

Oh, dear! I'm sorry this has happened to you!

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25 Sep 19 - 09:35 PM (#4010543)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Stilly River Sage

Tattie, your last Guest posting was in 2016: https://mudcat.org/usersearch.cfm?who=GUEST,Tattie+Bogle

Other guest posts that have appeared have been deleted.

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26 Sep 19 - 02:45 AM (#4010551)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Jim Carroll

One of the most disgusting examples of this was on appalling and now thankfully deleted site attacking the Environment Campaigner Greta Thunberg when one redneck posted as the not-long deceased 'Keith of Hertford'
Years ago this site was infiltrated by an ultra-right English Group
I had a pro-terrorist Facebook site opened in my name - luckily a fellow Mudcatter advised me about it and I was able to close it.
With what's happening to politics in Britain and the U.S. today, especially the international getting together of the ultra-right groups (Marine LePen's dream) I fear we can look forward to things like this in the not-to-distant future
Be afraid- be very afraid !
Jim Carroll

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26 Sep 19 - 02:54 AM (#4010554)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: BobL

Well Tattie, to those of us who don't read The Scotsman, online or off, the existence of the other craw-bogle is a matter neither here not there. Stay as you are please!

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26 Sep 19 - 03:56 AM (#4010568)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Mr Red

It happens.
My nom de gaure had already been used by an American Football mascot/cheerleader (retired). I don't know his route to the name, but mine is purely a sartorial affectation. Corporate identity. And a website domain name, wot I grabbed rather swiftly.

http://mister.red

I don't use my real name for the same reason I don't use my real birthdate on insignificances like Fakebook. Security.

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26 Sep 19 - 10:08 AM (#4010630)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Mrrzy

I had my identity stolen once... Back in the 90's or maybe late 80's. Still an occasional problem. My sympathies.

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26 Sep 19 - 10:30 AM (#4010640)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Acorn4

Don't tell him,Pike!

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26 Sep 19 - 10:33 AM (#4010641)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Steve Shaw

I'm not on any social media, though I'll look at the odd tweet mentioned on the Beeb or Guardian websites. Dunno whether my lack of presence or vigilance is any sort of threat, but if you see me on anything like Facebook (which I never even look at) or twitter it isn't me. And never will be. And I've told all my Facebookophile relatives not to mention me, still less post photos with me in them (I fell out bigtime with one of 'em over such a pic).

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26 Sep 19 - 10:36 AM (#4010642)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: punkfolkrocker

If my nom de plummet is seen posting anywhere apart from here,
then it's either a nefarious imposter,
or a freak coincidence of like minded creative naming...

My real name however crops up on loads of music and movie credits
because there's too many of us with the same name...

Though I'm probably one of the oldest and least successful...

[One lives round the corner from me and is registered to the same Dr..
oh the fun we've had with prescriptions...]

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26 Sep 19 - 01:46 PM (#4010661)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle

SRS: I wasn't suggesting that anyone on here had cloned me: any Guest Tattie Bogle posts on here almost certainly were the genuine me, but had temporarily lost cookie, and just noticed in time to add my name in.

BobL: I know that on a global scale the chances of other Mudcatters seeing these foul online posts by the other Tattie Bogle in the online version of The Scotsman newspaper are infinitesimal. However, there's a much bigger chance of my local Scottish friends reading those same comments and thinking it was me who posted them, which I really don't want. (And it has happened more than once.) And I also used to post on another online Scottish-based music forum under the same name, so there are quite a lot of people who know me as such, after we played our usual guessing games, of "well, which one are you?"

I wouldn't class reading and commenting on online news reports as "social media", although many of the commenters seem to spend their whole day trading insults! I read them sometimes, but very rarely comment.
I don't do Twitter. I am on Facebook, under my real name, but don't give out personal stuff or tell people I'm on holiday until after I get back! On any other forums or sites I've joined in more recent times, I use my real name.

PFR: the medical connection is that your abbreviated moniker stands for Peak Flow Rate!

Mr Red: we have met, and it was pretty obvious that it was you!

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26 Sep 19 - 02:36 PM (#4010666)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: punkfolkrocker

..is that rate of pints flowing from mouth to porcelain...???

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26 Sep 19 - 04:55 PM (#4010686)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Donuel

I told Joe someone has the ability to post under any name and even edit PMs at will but he is unsure.
3 months ago

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26 Sep 19 - 05:33 PM (#4010688)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Anne Lister

You think you've got problems? Try having the same name as a notorious diarist from a couple of centuries ago! Someone actually asked me recently whether I'd chosen my name to be like the famous Anne Lister, and I had to explain, as calmly as I could, that I had in fact had this name all my life and I was fairly sure my parents had never heard of my namesake. Oddly, however, we share a birthdate (although not, of course, the same year).

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26 Sep 19 - 07:10 PM (#4010704)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle

Ha-ha Anne! Is that the same Anne Lister as was portrayed in the recent BBC TV series?

Thanks Joe: I'm pretty sure I've not been cloned on this website. As I have hopefully now clarified, the other Tattie Bogle turns up in the comments section under various reports in The Scotsman newspaper, and probably has no idea that he/she, purely by chance, picked the same pseudonym as I did. So to say that he/she "nicked" (stole) it was my little joke, as I think I had it first! So, no need to change my password at present.
Hope you had a great time in Belfast and beyond, and on Jim's tour :sorry to miss you here.

And yes, Tattie Bogle is a scarecrow: it was a term of endearment used by our Scottish mother for my sister and I as kids, when we came in from playing outdoors and looking a bit dishevelled: "You look a right couple of tattie bogles".

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26 Sep 19 - 08:25 PM (#4010715)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: McGrath of Harlow

It's simpler using your own name here. There are sites where I'd use a pseudonym, but I never fancied doing that here.

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27 Sep 19 - 05:34 AM (#4010750)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Jack Campin

I first heard about the other Anne Lister this summer, at the Piece Hall museum in Halifax. There are probably songs about her already but maybe Anne Lister could write one?

Anne Lister

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27 Sep 19 - 10:00 AM (#4010796)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Steve Shaw

There was a good drama series about Anne Lister on the telly this summer called Gentleman Jack. I think she's buried in Halifax Cathedral (is it a cathedral?).

I've always used my real name on forums. There was an exception for a few weeks on The Session when I realised that I'd said something uncomplimentary about a bloke who I knew who played the twelve-string guitar, and that he'd identify me were he to read the thread. So I rapidly changed my name to Equal Temperament until the thread dropped out of sight, when I turned honest again. Bloody coward! It was his playing I was having a go at, not him personally, by the way. Twelve-strings in sessions? Grrr...

(It's OK - he's dead now...)

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27 Sep 19 - 10:30 AM (#4010799)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Steve Shaw

I hasten to add that it wasn't Bill Caddick! 'Twas a far lesser light than he...

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27 Sep 19 - 12:08 PM (#4010810)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle

Just to reassure the mods, I have now looked at the link provided by SRS of all the Guest, Tattie Bogle postings: yes, all me, completely genuine: just at times when I realised I had been logged out but didn't have my password at the forefront of my brain! (But then scarecrows don't have brains, do they?)

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27 Sep 19 - 01:51 PM (#4010820)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Joe Offer

Just for you, Tattie Bogle (click)....

With the thoughts I'd be thinkin',
I could be another Lincoln
If I only had a brain.

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27 Sep 19 - 03:54 PM (#4010842)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Jack Campin

Steve's face is up on YouTube for all to to see, except he's hiding behind a free reed burka.

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27 Sep 19 - 05:22 PM (#4010849)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Steve Shaw

It's pretty old now, Jack. Since I uploaded those tunes I've aged and gone a bit deaf. It could mean that I might be able to play better now. I'll gave it a bash some time.

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27 Sep 19 - 05:23 PM (#4010850)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Steve Shaw

Give not gave yeah?

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27 Sep 19 - 05:44 PM (#4010853)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Anne Lister

There have been two programmes on the telly about the historic Anne Lister, one with Sue Perkins and the other with Suranne Jones (for the closing credits of which the film production used the song Gentleman Jack performed by O'Hooley and Tidow). Some years ago, and well before these programmes, I was given a copy of the diaries of Anne Lister when I was on tour in the States, which is how I know we share a birthday. But little else, I have to say, which is why it's unlikely I'll write a song about her, and I confess I haven't watched either of the shows even though friends have recommended them to me. She's not a blood relative - my Lister relatives were from mining and agricultural working families, not landed gentry. But we have had to add a disclaimer to my website, in case anyone confuses the two of us!

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28 Sep 19 - 07:29 PM (#4010972)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle

Thanks for the re-run of Wizard of Oz, Joe: yes, that was what I was thinking of with my last scarecrow comment.

And Anne, Steve, it was "Gentleman Jack" which was the TV series I was recalling. It was well done (at least, the bits of it that I saw.)

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29 Sep 19 - 05:59 AM (#4011022)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Jack Campin

There is of course a third one, Anne T. Septic Lister.

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29 Sep 19 - 12:15 PM (#4011077)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Mrrzy

Tabster...

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29 Sep 19 - 06:01 PM (#4011124)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Anne Lister

Yes, well, of course the antiseptic Dr Lister is why when I was teaching I was nicknamed Mouthwash ... but that is yet another Lister who is unrelated to me. I am, myself, also Dr Lister these days (actually, legally, Dr Purbrick, as that's my married and non-stage name).
Tabster - ah, Mrrzy, that's from a long past time!

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30 Sep 19 - 02:04 PM (#4011246)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Joe MacGillivray

That's terrible to hear. It really is disgusting that people will falsely use another's name and drag it in the dirt.

The fact that the nasty comments occur on the Scotsman does not surprise me much.

I used to read the Scotsman online, but they allowed a lot of bigoted trolling comments on there (anti-Gaelic comments on Gaelic news articles). Completely angered me.

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02 Oct 19 - 02:00 PM (#4011582)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: keberoxu

You keep on keeping on.
You are OUR Tattie Bogle
and we want to keep you.

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02 Oct 19 - 04:28 PM (#4011609)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle

Thanks Keberoxu: seems someone HAS now tried it on here, and posted some foul and offensive stuff. Thanks to Bonnie Shaljean for telling me: will now report to mods

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Taken care of. ---mudelf

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03 Oct 19 - 06:56 PM (#4011796)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: Tattie Bogle

Thanks to the wonderful mudelf who recognised that that post was from a spammer/hacker/cloner and not from me!

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04 Oct 19 - 12:53 PM (#4011917)
Subject: RE: BS: Somebody nicked my name
From: leeneia

I have a suggestion for you. Since "tattie bogle" is a recognized phrase of long standing, why not make your screen name slightly different.

I suggest spelling it with three t's, not two:

Tatttie Bogle. Nobody will come up with that.

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