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14 Nov 19 - 12:59 PM (#4019151) Subject: BS: What colour IS that? From: Dave the Gnome Those that have followed the recent Gnomish sagas (bit like sago but lasts !onger) will know that our kitchen is being done up. Everything old, bar the cooker and dishwasher, is out now so I have started to paint before the new stuff comes in. Ceiling - Easy. White. Walls - Clontarf! WTF? Who comes up with these names? Without googling it, who can tell me what colour clontarf is! |
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14 Nov 19 - 02:25 PM (#4019172) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Helen Well, DtG, in NSW and in Queensland, Australia Clontarf are both waterside suburbs, although not beachside locations. However, I am not at all sure what Clontarf looks like in Ireland. Nope, it looks the same from the satellite photos. All three places look very similar but not white or whitish. That doesn't help your search at all for what the colour "Clontarf" is and I'm resisting the temptation to Google it at this stage. On a related topic about arbitrarily chosen names, at my previous workplace, a government department, instead of filling in what used to be known as a retirement/resignation form when I looked it up it had been renamed to an "offboarding" form. Whenever I spoke about it to managers etc I could only do it by using the quotation marks gesture and a WTF verbal intonation and related facial expressions. I was repeatedly told that it made perfect sense (to the managers) because the form to fill in when a person joins the organisation is now known as an "onboarding" form. On each occasion, I said your words verbatim, "Who comes up with these names?". |
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14 Nov 19 - 02:52 PM (#4019176) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Doug Chadwick B&Q have a whole range of colours named after places, such as Ottowa; Cincinnati; Mayfair; Tyrone, which bear no relation to the actual colour. Presumably, Clontarf is one of these. DC |
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14 Nov 19 - 02:55 PM (#4019177) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Dave the Gnome Well spotted, Doug. |
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14 Nov 19 - 03:01 PM (#4019179) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Doug Chadwick So, what colour is it? DC |
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14 Nov 19 - 03:16 PM (#4019184) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Iains A peas soup with lashings of cream mixed in. |
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14 Nov 19 - 03:24 PM (#4019188) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Dave the Gnome I'll post a link tomorrow :-) |
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14 Nov 19 - 03:30 PM (#4019189) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Doug Chadwick A peas soup with lashings of cream mixed in. Pale green, then? Sounds nice for a kitchen. DC |
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14 Nov 19 - 03:37 PM (#4019192) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: keberoxu Careful, I recall that arsenic is green ... |
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14 Nov 19 - 04:59 PM (#4019204) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Mr Red is it a colour or an affectation? Gloss or matte? non-drip or spotty? Emulsion, Lacquer or Enamel? And as for colour............... Afternoon Tea Baking Day Chocolate Suede Crushed Chocolate Dash of Nutmeg Gramophone tick one of the above if you dare PS I don't Goggle - I Yapoo, so I can squint. |
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14 Nov 19 - 11:19 PM (#4019259) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: lefthanded guitar I am going to let Dave post the link, but I did look it up in google ( couldn't resist) . And Waddya know? After a wiki entry about the affluent suburb of Clontarf, there was indeed a paint can sporting the aforementioned color paint. I myself might resist buying this paint on the basis of the name itself. Though it IS a pretty color. But to me it would be like buying a paint called Great Neck. Or Chevy Chase. Ah well what's in a name? Enjoy your redecorating Dave; you do seem to tell us about it in the most entertaining way. |
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15 Nov 19 - 12:03 AM (#4019263) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Helen Yep. I confess I looked it up too. We went through a phase of painting a couple of rooms a similar colour and we were happy with it. Not overwhelming, not sickly sweet, but a light, airy look which seemed to go well with whatever furniture and colours we paired it with. |
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15 Nov 19 - 02:29 AM (#4019270) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: BobL "the form to fill in when a person joins the organisation is now known as an "onboarding" form" If leaving in irregular circumstances, should one fill in an Overboarding form? |
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15 Nov 19 - 03:21 AM (#4019276) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Dave the Gnome There you go Do you like it? The new kitchen is grey-ish so we hope it will go. Too late if not! We have a plumber coming next week to cap off the gas pipe and reorganise the old plumbing. Remember the game "Mouse Trap" that had a piece of plumbing? Ours is currently like that! I don't think I have ever seen as many redundant t junctions, washing machine taps and waste outlets. I know they will be behind cupboards but I would know they are there. Not that I have OCD or anything :-) |
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15 Nov 19 - 04:10 AM (#4019283) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Helen Yes, BobL, we had a manager who was obliged to abandon ship due to behavioural irregularities over a very long period of time. I think there were quite a few of us standing there with oars at the ready, making sure he didn't have a chance to "onboard" again. LOL |
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15 Nov 19 - 04:31 AM (#4019289) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Steve Shaw Any colour will do me as long as it's magnolia. |
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15 Nov 19 - 07:22 AM (#4019334) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Mrrzy Wait, Tyrone has no relation to the actual color? What color is actually Tyrone? |
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15 Nov 19 - 08:23 AM (#4019344) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Charmion DtG, our house has a similar problem with coaxial cabling from at least four, possibly six, versions of television installations. Plus a satellite dish on the roof. None of which we use — our telly has a wireless Apple TV thingie that talks to the Internet through the router. Every time I look up at the joists over the furnace, all festooned with redundant and disconnected cables, I feel a strong urge to reach up and yank. But I don’t know precisely what any of it may be stapled to, or what might be damaged if I give in to the impulse, so I leave the room and close the door resolving not to think about it. And then I go outside and look up at a bird or a squirrel only to see that damnable dish. Crap. |
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15 Nov 19 - 09:10 AM (#4019356) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Doug Chadwick Wait, Tyrone has no relation to the actual color? What color is actually Tyrone? Tyrone DC |
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15 Nov 19 - 09:35 AM (#4019360) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Mr Red It claimed to be of the group "green" but I reckon it is nowt but a cousin of this tribe: Afternoon Tea Baking Day Chocolate Suede Crushed Chocolate Dash of Nutmeg Gramophone Chalky White Beige White Canvas White Clay White Cream White Delicate White Milk White Sail White Snowfall Wheatgrass White Pepper I ain't joking.............. Crown Paints |
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15 Nov 19 - 10:53 AM (#4019377) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Jack Campin I have key/colour synæsthesia. The attic is painted in D major, the bathroom floor and bathroom/bedroom woodwork in A, the bedroom and kitchen walls in C, the hall floor in G and my study is somewhere between F and B flat. Wouldn't it be simpler if all paint was labelled that way? |
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15 Nov 19 - 11:32 AM (#4019390) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Mrrzy Jack, I envy you, unless it's a dis-ability. No fair linking to the paint Tyrone, that is what has no relation to the actual Tyrone, no? |
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15 Nov 19 - 01:42 PM (#4019414) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Doug Chadwick The actual Tyrone has to be one of 32 shades of green, surely. DC |
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15 Nov 19 - 01:49 PM (#4019415) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Doug Chadwick Or, possibly, orange. DC |
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15 Nov 19 - 01:56 PM (#4019417) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Steve Shaw I'm the same, Jack. My apartment is A flat. I'll get me coat... ...of magnolia... |
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15 Nov 19 - 11:24 PM (#4019454) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: frogprince My Ford Fusion is painted "smokestone". Depending on the light, it's either cream, tan, light gray, or a muted silver. On a number of occasions now I've ridden into an airport parking lot on a shuttle bus and had the driver ask what color to look for. The lot at the train station in Canada was so small that I didn't have to worry about what colour it was. |
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16 Nov 19 - 11:17 AM (#4019554) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Raggytash Contact is an Irish Whiskey! |
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16 Nov 19 - 11:18 AM (#4019555) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Raggytash Clontarf is an Irish Whiskey! |
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16 Nov 19 - 01:07 PM (#4019582) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: leeneia Clearly there is no connection between the name of the paint and it's color. It occurred to me, though, that we live with this every day in our personal names. We all have names, and they have nothing to do with what we are like. I am Leeneia, but I could be Ruby, Dorothy or Jane. An exception would be nicknames such as Red, Slim, or Shorty, but these are not true personal names. Of course, we expect somebody named Montmorency to be different from somebody named Hank, but those names reflect parents' expectations, not the reality of the person named. A montmorency who hates his name will opt for Monty, most likely. So our own names are like paint names - meaningless but helpful tags for things there are an awful lot of. |
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17 Nov 19 - 03:41 AM (#4019642) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Mr Red We all have names, and they have nothing to do with what we are like. Er I would disagree, for two reasons. 1) there is a correlation between the kind of name you were given and how people see you and as a result, the way you have reacted to that. Statistically it is observed, individuals may differ because the influences a far wider than just a name. Trust me, when applying for jobs it was apparent that my name categorised me into "foreign, or at least unusual, therefore: NEXT!" 2) Have you never heard of nominative determinism? An example might be the famous paper on urology by Messrs Splatt and Weedon. Mr A J Splatt is a urologist in Bristol UK and he invited Mr Weedon to co-author the paper. Smart move because they both get the publicity and no doubt Mr Weedon's career took a direction he never anticipated. Apparently Sigmund Frued's name (who studied pleasure) translates as joy And there is no doubt that colo(u)r has an affect on people (in either spelling). |
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17 Nov 19 - 06:24 PM (#4019897) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: leeneia Mr. Red, you are discussing the process of association and I'm talking about meaningful nomenclature. ========= It's occurred to me that another field where names do not describe the thing named is the field of breeding. For example, many (not all) dog names don't tell us anything. Poodle, schnauzer, tsi shu. Perhaps they meant something in their original language, but they tell us nothing now. Plant varieties even more so - Mr. Lincoln, Chrysler Imperial, Hansa, Heritage (names of roses). If you showed them to a person who doesn't garden and asked him which rose had which name, he couldn't begin to tell. |
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17 Nov 19 - 07:01 PM (#4019903) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Doug Chadwick We all have names, and they have nothing to do with what we are like. I am Leeneia, but I could be Ruby, Dorothy or Jane. An exception would be nicknames such as Red, Slim, or Shorty, but these are not true personal names. .................... .................... So our own names are like paint names - meaningless but helpful tags for things there are an awful lot of. Paint names are much more helpful if they are not meaningless - in other words, they are nicknames related to the actual colour of the paint. If I buy paint called Golden Daffodil, I have a fair expectation that I won't end with something blue or crimson. Paint manufacturers don't need to express their aspirations for their product. They already know its attributes and should choose a name that give some sort of clue to the purchaser without the need to consult a color chart. DC |
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17 Nov 19 - 10:24 PM (#4019935) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Helen Well, having looked at the satellite pictures of two Clontarfs in Oz, and one in Ireland, I have to say that a shade of green seems appropriate. They are all leafy suburbs (green) next to lakes or still water (greenish). The question is, how many Clontarfs are there in the world and do they all fit the same description? |
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18 Nov 19 - 05:52 AM (#4019990) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Bee-dubya-ell "Clontarf" means "bull's meadow". So, a paint called Clontarf should be bright green with prominent splotches of brown. |
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18 Nov 19 - 10:07 AM (#4020048) Subject: RE: BS: What colour IS that? From: Mr Red bright green with prominent splotches of brown - you got that off pat! And Leeneia - there is a correlation between names and how people turn out. It is just subtle and statistical. I well remember a guy called Badcock who was a smarmy conniving slimeball. When you have been pilloried for having a name like that in your formative years, it is odds-on you grow a thick skin, and maybe a methodology that involves pay-back to all and sundry before they can get at you. Or you withdraw in on yourself. There is a successful company in the UK called Babcock. Would they be as successful - had they not changed from a "d" to a "b"? My example of Nominative Determinism is a rare example where it was chance initially, but the correlation would be as an advertisement for career development. Normally it is an amusing coincidence. Mostly. And returning to hue, wearing mono-chromatic garb has several upsides and the only downside I can detect is that I cannot misbehave and hide! But then my given name taught me the same lesson very early in my youth. |