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27 Nov 19 - 05:41 PM (#4021438) Subject: phil the fluter's ball From: GUEST,foxyloxy Can anyone tell me if Percy French's "Phil the Fluter's ball" uses a traditional dance tune, or is it one French composed himself ? |
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27 Nov 19 - 07:51 PM (#4021460) Subject: RE: phil the fluters ball From: Steve Shaw Well it makes a rattling good tune. I learned it from the singing of Peter Dawson. I think it is the same tune as Delaney's Donkey. It plays well as a hornpipe. I'm no scholar of these things, sadly. "Oh, hadn't we the gaiety at Phil the fluter's ball!" |
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27 Nov 19 - 08:26 PM (#4021464) Subject: RE: phil the fluters ball From: GUEST https://tunearch.org/wiki/Annotation:Phil_The_Fluter's_Ball |
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27 Nov 19 - 08:52 PM (#4021468) Subject: RE: phil the fluters ball From: GUEST,keberoxu I am reminded of the pre-eminent classical flute player James Galway. Interviewed at the height of his fame for his non-classical music career, and asked about the term 'flautist,' Galway retorted: "I never flauted a day in my life." |
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28 Nov 19 - 01:47 AM (#4021485) Subject: RE: phil the fluters ball From: Joe Offer Note comments in this thread (click): quite similar to "The Glasgow Highlanders", "Lord Moira" and "The Lad wi the Plaidie". -and- Its got almost the same tune as 'Delaney's Donkey' |
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28 Nov 19 - 01:49 PM (#4021504) Subject: RE: Source of tune: phil the fluters ball From: leeneia Thanks for the link to Delaney's Donkey. That's a clever song. |
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28 Nov 19 - 02:14 PM (#4021506) Subject: RE: Source of tune: phil the fluters ball From: Steve Gardham It's very similar to the tune I've heard to 'The Ball of Kirriemuir/Inverness.' |
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28 Nov 19 - 06:46 PM (#4021558) Subject: RE: Source of tune: phil the fluters ball From: Tattie Bogle We do play it for dancing, along with a couple of other hornpipes: works well for a Canadian Barn Dance! |
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29 Nov 19 - 03:13 AM (#4021580) Subject: RE: Source of tune: phil the fluters ball From: GUEST,Peter Laban Séamus Ennis played a reel that's the same tune but he may well have taken that from the song rather than the other way around. |
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29 Nov 19 - 03:47 AM (#4021585) Subject: RE: Source of tune: phil the fluters ball From: Jack Campin The resemblance to those Scottish tunes seems pretty remote. They are all descended from "Bonny Kate" of around 1700, which doesn't seem any closer to PTFB than the later ones. |