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Mickey Mor's / Over the Waterfall

26 Dec 19 - 04:27 PM (#4025006)
Subject: Mickey Mor's / Over the Waterfall
From: Richard Mellish

Listening to Travelling Folk - Music for Winter I was surprised to hear what sounded very like the A-part of Over the Waterfall as the B-part of an Irish tune Mickey Mor's. Rather than scan the BBC programme, the latter can be found more easily here. Just one more instance of a travelling tune, I suppose, but quite a striking one.


26 Dec 19 - 04:40 PM (#4025008)
Subject: RE: Mickey Mor's / Over the Waterfall
From: Jack Campin

The original of both was probably the English tune "The Girl with the Blue Dress On".


27 Dec 19 - 02:09 AM (#4025060)
Subject: RE: Mickey Mor's / Over the Waterfall
From: Manitas_at_home

Do you mean the Dark Girl Dressed in Blue? I've always thought of the Girl with the Blue Dress as being an entirely different tune. Of course there's no reason why a tune shouldn't have more than one name.


27 Dec 19 - 04:57 AM (#4025074)
Subject: RE: Mickey Mor's / Over the Waterfall
From: Jack Campin

Yes, you're right.


27 Dec 19 - 06:19 AM (#4025081)
Subject: RE: Mickey Mor's / Over the Waterfall
From: Richard Mellish

OK, so we have a third tune that is similar, and thanks for identifying that. Is Dark Girl Dressed in Blue definitely the original or is that supposition?


30 Dec 19 - 03:45 AM (#4025406)
Subject: RE: Mickey Mor's / Over the Waterfall
From: GUEST,LynnH

Alan Jabbour (Hollow Rock String Band) considered 'Waterfall' to be a reworking of an english tune 'The Job of Journeywork'
That's sleeve note culture for you!

As to 'Dark Girl Dressed in Blue', I learnt it from a recording of the Donegal fiddler Johnny Doherty.


30 Dec 19 - 03:54 PM (#4025535)
Subject: RE: Mickey Mor's / Over the Waterfall
From: Jack Campin

The Job of Journeywork features in book 3 of Aird's collection. Dunno where Aird said it came from: I thought that (under that title) it was Irish.

Fleischmann's Sources of Irish Traditional Music might have something to say about it.