02 Feb 20 - 01:55 PM (#4031796) Subject: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Dave the Gnome 02 02 2020 Both sides of the pond :-) |
02 Feb 20 - 02:02 PM (#4031797) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Backwoodsman And other 2nd Feb Palindromes - it’s the 33rd day of the year, with 333 days remaining... |
02 Feb 20 - 03:32 PM (#4031811) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Dave the Gnome Able was I ere I saw Elba A man, a plan, a canal. Panama! |
02 Feb 20 - 03:40 PM (#4031813) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: WalkaboutsVerse 20 minutes late - should have posted at 20:20 on 02/02/2020. |
02 Feb 20 - 05:23 PM (#4031829) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Mrrzy Rats live on no evil star Love the Panama one (Panama... where everything smells like banana, per some weird-ass German book-on-video my kids had) Madam, I'm Adam I used to know a bunch of these |
02 Feb 20 - 05:29 PM (#4031831) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Mr Red 20:20 here in the UK. |
02 Feb 20 - 05:42 PM (#4031836) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Dave the Gnome Was that a vision? |
02 Feb 20 - 05:46 PM (#4031837) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Steve Shaw Longest single-word palindrome in the English language: DETARTRATED. My birthday is a palindrome as long as a single digit is permitted for the month: 15651 (cards and cheques to the following address...) |
02 Feb 20 - 06:34 PM (#4031842) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Nigel Parsons Many sources give the longest single-word palindrome as: tattarrattat. A palindrome is a word or phrase which reads the same forwards as backwards, i.e. with its 'sides reversed' to create even longer palindromes, just insert "sides reversed is". So "Able was I, ere I saw Elba' becomes: Able was I ere I saw Elba sides reversed is able was I ere I saw Elba. |
02 Feb 20 - 06:54 PM (#4031845) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: keberoxu Happy Groundhog Day, as well. The word from the Groundhogs of note, is that spring is to arrive early. |
02 Feb 20 - 06:57 PM (#4031848) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Bee-dubya-ell And in the US, today is Groundhog Day, the most pointless "holiday" on the calendar, and Superbowl Sunday, the holiest day of the year to millions of Americans (but not this one). |
02 Feb 20 - 07:30 PM (#4031853) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Steve Shaw Yeah, Nige, but anybody can make up something that doesn't actually mean a damn thing and call it a palindrome. Like wot you've just done. |
02 Feb 20 - 07:42 PM (#4031854) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Steve Shaw "Sit on a potato pan, Otis" The first ever palindrome was in Latin, thus: "sator arepo tenet opera rotas" Don't ask me to translate it. I only got a grade four. |
02 Feb 20 - 08:46 PM (#4031858) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Steve Shaw I see that someone on twitter has posted a photo of Trump with the palindromic caption "Was it a rat I saw?" :-) |
02 Feb 20 - 08:57 PM (#4031860) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Nigel Parsons Yeah, Nige, but anybody can make up something that doesn't actually mean a damn thing and call it a palindrome. Like wot you've just done. A little search would have shown the ignorance of your assumption. tattarrattat. is from the pen of James Joyce. |
02 Feb 20 - 09:02 PM (#4031861) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Steve Shaw It was your ill-conceived sentence I was referring to, not that. |
03 Feb 20 - 02:10 AM (#4031876) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Dave the Gnome My mate Mike and I spent an evening drinking Holt's "Regal Lager" because we thought palindtomic meant particularly strong :-) |
03 Feb 20 - 03:18 AM (#4031882) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Jack Campin A description of Mudcat flame wars: In girum imus nocte et consumimur igni |
03 Feb 20 - 05:57 AM (#4031899) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Steve Shaw I found that to be a great reviver, Jack. |
03 Feb 20 - 06:24 AM (#4031903) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Steve Shaw Here's a list of kids from one of my class registers: Nell, Edna, Leon, Nedra, Anita, Rolf, Nora, Alice, Carol, Leo, Jane, Reed, Dena, Dale, Basil, Rae, Penny, Lana, Dave, Denny, Lena, Ida, Bernadette, Ben, Ray, Lila, Nina, Jo, Ira, Mara, Sara, Mario, Jan, Ina, Lily, Arne, Bette, Dan, Reba, Diane, Lynn, Ed, Eva, Dana, Lynne, Pearl, Isabel, Ada, Ned, Dee, Rena, Joel, Lora, Cecil, Aaron, Flora, Tina, Arden, Noel, and Ellen |
03 Feb 20 - 06:32 AM (#4031905) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: gillymor Wow |
03 Feb 20 - 07:09 AM (#4031914) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Nigel Parsons I never claimed that "sides reversed is" was my own formulation, Steve's claim that but anybody can make up something that doesn't actually mean a damn thing and call it a palindrome. Like wot you've just done. So he is still wrong. It appeared (although possibly not original even then) in "Games and Puzzles" magazine in the 1970s or 80s. However, I believe he is deliberately lying when he claims: Here's a list of kids from one of my class registers: Nell, Edna, Leon, Nedra, Anita, Rolf, Nora, Alice, Carol, Leo, Jane, Reed, Dena, Dale, Basil, Rae, Penny, Lana, Dave, Denny, Lena, Ida, Bernadette, Ben, Ray, Lila, Nina, Jo, Ira, Mara, Sara, Mario, Jan, Ina, Lily, Arne, Bette, Dan, Reba, Diane, Lynn, Ed, Eva, Dana, Lynne, Pearl, Isabel, Ada, Ned, Dee, Rena, Joel, Lora, Cecil, Aaron, Flora, Tina, Arden, Noel, and Ellen The list can easily be found elsewhere on the net, not attributed to 'Steve Shaw'. And I very much doubt that he ever had a class of 60. |
03 Feb 20 - 07:18 AM (#4031916) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: gillymor Dammit I'm mad, Let's dispense with the nitpickery. |
03 Feb 20 - 07:42 AM (#4031922) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Dave the Gnome Nigel put a tup leg in. |
03 Feb 20 - 10:06 AM (#4031942) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Steve Shaw :-) |
03 Feb 20 - 01:12 PM (#4031979) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Mr Red Nigel put a tup leg in. - sides reversed? SATOR AREPO TENET OPERA ROTAS A well known Latin palindromic acrostic. A multi dimensional one at that. The father arepo holds The works on wheels looses much in translation. Particularly arepo which is reckoned to be there just to complete the format. Scholars generally agree is is not a known Latin word. Who knows it may have been a colloquialism/nickname, you had to be there to know. |
03 Feb 20 - 02:58 PM (#4031999) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: G-Force Bob |
03 Feb 20 - 07:11 PM (#4032046) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Joe Offer So, when's the next Palindrome day, 12122121? |
03 Feb 20 - 07:21 PM (#4032048) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Steve Shaw "The next global palindrome will be 12/02/2021, which will be the last for another 1,009 years." [the Guardian] |
03 Feb 20 - 07:54 PM (#4032053) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Nigel Parsons Unlike 02/02/2020, 12/02/2021 will not be a 'globally' palindromic day, as it doesn't represent a single day, but 12th Feb in some places and 2nd December in others. |
03 Feb 20 - 07:59 PM (#4032054) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Steve Shaw Only reportin' wot I've read, Nige... |
03 Feb 20 - 08:19 PM (#4032056) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Nigel Parsons Yes, you clearly put too much trust in The Guardian. |
04 Feb 20 - 02:38 AM (#4032075) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Dave the Gnome Yebbut now we are out of the EU and have our sovereignty back, Brittania will once again rule the waves, the sun will never set on the the British empire and all them Johnny Foreigners will have to comply with our date standard :-) |
04 Feb 20 - 02:51 AM (#4032077) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Doug Chadwick The next global palindrome will be 12/02/2021, which will be the last for another 1,009 years." [the Guardian] How about 13/02/2031? Though some might not read it as a date, for those who do, there is no confusion. DC |
04 Feb 20 - 04:29 AM (#4032098) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Doug Chadwick Unlike 02/02/2020, 12/02/2021 will not be a 'globally' palindromic day, as it doesn't represent a single day, but 12th Feb in some places and 2nd December in others. Easter is sometimes on the same date but at other times on a different date for Western and Orthodox Christians, depending on how it is calculated. 12/02/2020 will be a palindromic date for everyone but, like Easter, will be noted at different times of the year, according to local calculations. I think that qualifies it as 'global'. The convention for writing numbers is, left to right, highest to lowest. i.e. thousands > hundreds > tens > units. In the 24 hour system, time is written: hours > minutes > seconds. The year itself is written: millennium > century > decade > year. Logically, dates should be written: year > month > day. Under this system, 2020/02/02 would still be a palindrome but the next one would be 22 months away, on 2021/12/02. DC |
04 Feb 20 - 04:35 AM (#4032100) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Doug Chadwick ..... 12/02/2021 will be a palindromic date for everyone but, ..... |
04 Feb 20 - 10:42 AM (#4032199) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Dave the Gnome I agrer, Doug. Whenever I compile a date list I always use YYYY MM DD. Those who know anything about computer sort rules will know why :-) |
05 Feb 20 - 05:14 AM (#4032309) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Mr Red will not be a 'globally' palindromic day, Huh? It is a palindromic date. And that covers the whole day - I believe! If it refers to differing days in differing countries' syntax then they will celebrate the palindrome on differing days, that is all. But not at a different time of day if you throw in the 24 hour clock (with seconds). "T Eliott, top bard, not on drab pot toilet" |
05 Feb 20 - 05:21 AM (#4032310) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Nigel Parsons "T Eliott, top bard, not on drab pot toilet" Only works as a palindrome if you spell 'Eliot' correctly ;) |
05 Feb 20 - 05:15 PM (#4032438) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Mr Red So it doesn't suit you to a T? |
07 Feb 20 - 06:01 PM (#4032847) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Georgiansilver What did Napoleon say? Able was I ere i saw Elba. |
08 Feb 20 - 08:13 AM (#4032935) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Mr Red Those who know anything about computer sort rules will know why :-) Er...... In Excel it depends where you sort. And your settings. In cells, if you have selected UK format, it is happy to oblige. Indeed if you extend-fill a single date it will index the date correctly (to chosen format). BUT............. If you programme in VBA it gets confused with aa/bb/cccc so the only way to unconditionally deal with dates is to convert from expected format to cccc/bb/aa & thence to a long variable. If you don't know what format is coming in, you have to force the in-putter to deliver the individual elements with a custom process/box/dialog. And dates before 1970? But sometimes 1900? Don't ya just love how computers make life simple? |
08 Feb 20 - 08:52 AM (#4032943) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Dave the Gnome Unix shell, Mr R. Never needed much else :-) |
10 Feb 20 - 04:23 PM (#4033462) Subject: RE: BS: Happy palindrome day From: Mr Red Do you program in any language that handles dates natively? Bet there is a start date that isn't CE, and if it did, how does it handle the year zero? |