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BS: J'accuse

09 May 20 - 08:57 AM (#4051402)
Subject: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

Ladies and gentlemen of the jury;

The deliberate classifying and blocking of infection information, WHO, CDC, experts and science itself, combined with deliberate inaction amounts to murder in the first degree by the vengeful Donald Trump in my opinion.

Even the NIH is being upstaged by a new White House modeling and propogandized task force.(Fighting a pandemic is more than a mere task.)

I am anxious to hear how the defense can be more tolerent and do not see evidence of murder or manslaughter but perhaps only see some degree of negligence or ignorance.

How would you vote?

GUILTY OR INNOCENT


09 May 20 - 09:30 AM (#4051406)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: gillymor

I say give him a fair trial and hang him.
What you cite there are all attempts to control the message and damn the public welfare and safety but one thing he can't discount when he's spewing his lies and misinformation on cable news channels is the death toll plastered on the screen to his left, though calling it over-inflated seems to be his current strategy for coping with COVID19 after his last one, he and Jared calling their response "a complete success" didn't improve his poll number.
He and his sleazy mob are a fucking disgrace.


09 May 20 - 09:37 AM (#4051407)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Steve Shaw

"I say give him a fair trial and hang him."

Other way round. :-)


09 May 20 - 09:44 AM (#4051412)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: gillymor

You're right, works better that way.


09 May 20 - 09:51 AM (#4051415)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Mr Red

Who is this Jack Hughes guy any way? Is he the hangman?

Any old rope for any old rope?


09 May 20 - 10:04 AM (#4051416)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: gillymor

ha friggety ha


09 May 20 - 10:29 AM (#4051423)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: The Sandman

i am not objective i dislike him so i would hang him from the highest tree , i would also hang pence, but i would horse whip him first


09 May 20 - 10:58 AM (#4051426)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Stilly River Sage

He talks about "Trump haters," but it is more severe than that. People despise him. They abhor his voice, his face, his stupid off-the-cuff ideas. For the safety of the nation, no one I know would make room for him on the raft.

No need for new accusations, just round up the existing ones. Everything from rape to reckless endangerment and now, manslaughter (because he doesn't know who his specific victims are as he struggles to keep his bottom-line propped up). His self-dealing to scoop up as many federal dollars as possible is treasonous (the crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government). He would overthrow the government to be phucking king. Add up enough of those and you have what Wikipedia says is enough for a federal execution.

"Capital punishment is a legal penalty under the United States federal government criminal justice system. It can be imposed for treason, espionage, murder, large-scale drug trafficking, or attempted murder of a witness, juror, or court officer in certain cases."


09 May 20 - 11:32 AM (#4051435)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: EBarnacle

Actually, I don't hate him. I pity and loath him. His total lack of empathy and his resulting isolation have made him a lonely "man." He has no friends, only associated sycophants who seem to wait in line to be thrown under the next bus to save his hide once again.
When, not if, he is brought to trial, it is conceivable that there will be no credible character witnesses to say positive things about him. As he considers himself a Christ figure, perhaps he should be crucified after conviction. It's cruel and unusual but so is he.


09 May 20 - 11:41 AM (#4051438)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

The Defense:

Ladies and gentlemen of the Jury;
America, Jesus, Freedom.

1st of all this trial is a HOAX. If it don't float you must bloat.
Donald is a diamond in the ass of a goat so get out there and start russian to vote because He is the most strong powerful trash talker in history but he is against baby punching, unless there is money in it.
Every bone in his body is made of IRON except his bone spurs.
You can be sure that America will remain FIRST way under Trump despite the fact that Biden and his son have both grown vaginas.

The issue before us is not guilt or innocense, its who is Trump greater than - God or the son of god? Only a dirty Jew would cruxify He who the greatest hughest genius of all.


09 May 20 - 11:54 AM (#4051441)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

Your Honor, Trump has just fired the Johnny Cochran look alike attorney. The President did not know he was black.
Rudy Gulliani and Rush Limbaugh will serve as counsel.


09 May 20 - 12:00 PM (#4051444)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: gillymor

Whuhh??? what the hell was that?

"A fair trial", what was I thinking, no chance of that as long as he's got the nation's top law enforcement officer operating as his personal attorney and "fixer". Another compelling reason to vote him out, aside from getting rid of Barr and returning to the rule of law, is to give state and municipal prosecutors a crack at him in a venue where he might be brought to justice.


09 May 20 - 12:05 PM (#4051447)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Steve Shaw

Huh. Even if you tried to string him up he'd accuse you of employing fake noose...


09 May 20 - 12:12 PM (#4051450)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

Your Honor, The Precedent has just fired Rush and Rudy...
[did he say russain Rudy or... oh I see]


Your Honor,
Donald Trump, peace be upon him, will serve as his own counsel.


09 May 20 - 02:22 PM (#4051481)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Stilly River Sage

A fool for a client with a fool for a lawyer. Sounds right.


09 May 20 - 02:48 PM (#4051486)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

Trump could plead guilty twice and all his Attorney General has to do is drop the charges like he did with Gen. Flynn.

Its all...beyond words.

I noticed nearly everyone curiously gravitated to a hanging sentence.


09 May 20 - 05:19 PM (#4051521)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Stilly River Sage

Let a state charge and try him. Then the AG can't do a thing. But this takes time, more time than Trump has. The thing to worry about is the pissed off rage he's going to go through from losing the election in November to the Inauguration in January.


09 May 20 - 06:07 PM (#4051525)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Dave the Gnome

Do you think it may be drugs? Not an excuse, I know, but his actions mimic the ones I have seen n long term substance abusers.


09 May 20 - 08:41 PM (#4051540)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

Dave I have also seen this 'man child' quality and a drug induced chattiness at his rallies. Also his brother was prone to addiction.
Yet there is no proof of drugs. I would think that his lawyer Cohen would have outed him by now if it were true.

I think Donald is just another self deluded businessman with social psychopathy. Anyone who he has hired, Trump believes he actually bought. The worst disloyal betrayal in his eyes is to not STAY bought.

He bought an election. He will be tormented if it doesn't stay bought.

-what if in his anguish he outs Putin?-


10 May 20 - 09:28 AM (#4051609)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

Nameless, unreasoning, unjustified bankcruptcy by the hand of the bankruptcy KING.
Who saw that coming?
WINNING

They don't make Great Depressions like they used to with soup lines


16 May 20 - 11:24 AM (#4052782)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

More trials of Trump are to come.

I do not suggest or approve a cadaver trial similar to Pope Formosus
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Formosus


16 May 20 - 12:52 PM (#4052798)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Stilly River Sage

Trump took out another individual whose job was to keep him honest:

State Department inspector general fired; Democrats decry ‘dangerous pattern of retaliation’


18 May 20 - 05:25 PM (#4053401)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

My President says he has been on hydro oxychloroquine for a week now.
He is lying, trying to boost sales or got spooked when told he is positive.

Even if he got a false positive test he is erring on the side of ignorance.


19 May 20 - 11:52 AM (#4053653)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Mrrzy

As an aside, I used the phrase J'accuse a lot with my twins when they were growing up. They only found out it was a literary reference watching South Park or The Simpsons as late teenagers, and were vastly amused, as was I when they told me about it.

They are 25 today. That is 625 parent-years...

And now, back to the regularly-scheduled thread already in progress.


19 May 20 - 01:48 PM (#4053702)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

I didn't read the book but I saw the movie J'Accuse, (French: “I accuse”) celebrated open letter by Émile Zola to the president of the French Republic in defense of Alfred Dreyfus, a Jewish officer who had been accused of treason by the French army. It was published in the newspaper L'Aurore on Jan. 13, 1898. CLIP


I saved the newspaper :^/


19 May 20 - 05:27 PM (#4053762)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh

However appropriate the speech given in the "clip" provided, Gance only took the title of his film* from the letter by Zola. This anti-war piece is not about the Dreyfus case itself.

* Or, "films"/"movies"; this is his own 1930s remake of his 1919 original.


19 May 20 - 06:13 PM (#4053773)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Donuel

https://www.academia.edu/10331859/France_The_Dreyfus_Affair_and_the_Great_War_The_Paths_of_Glory_Lead_but_to_the_Grave


The Dreyfus affair resounds even today'

Even if you are a dark slender boy you're pretty smart too.


19 May 20 - 06:41 PM (#4053780)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh

"Paths of Glory" is one Film that made me feel as physically sick as any work of artifice ever has.Admittedly, I was not then twenty, (and all three words were then accurate enough) and of course the response is by no means to be regarded as an adverse comment on Kubrick. Au contraire, bien entendu.
Good Luck!


20 May 20 - 11:34 AM (#4053934)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Mrrzy

Oy.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/trump-worlds-most-coronavirus-cases-badge-of-honor-good-bad-thing.amp


20 May 20 - 11:42 AM (#4053937)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Mrrzy

And this! https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/05/national-guard-deployments-to-fight-coronavirus-will-end-day-before-benefits-kick-in.html


21 May 20 - 04:56 PM (#4054250)
Subject: RE: BS: J'accuse
From: Raedwulf

What are we voting on?

If it's on your opinion, Don, I'd burn the ballot paper. I'm afraid you belong to a class of 'cat inhabitants whose opinions on matters outside of music are... Let's just say that if you (& a number of active others; it's not just you) told me that that the grass was green & the sky was blue... I'd step outside to check!