BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20

25 May 20 - 10:54 PM (#4055185)
Subject: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mrrzy

I don't think SpaceX has the track record yet to be transporting humans. Some of y'all know more, though, about what is actually involved, so, y'all, whaddaya think?

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26 May 20 - 12:05 AM (#4055188)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Stilly River Sage

I think I don't want to jinx them. :-/

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26 May 20 - 12:55 AM (#4055190)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Joe Offer

I think that Elon Musk and Donald Trump have too much in common.

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26 May 20 - 03:37 AM (#4055207)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mr Red

I don't think SpaceX has the track record yet to be transporting humans

Well Elon says he has more successful launches that the US based competition, & points to the level of insurance he pays on each launch, and reckons it is much less.

There are compounding factors like the value of the payload, and his charges for each launch which he brags are half the price. But, who, other than Roscosmos have any current track record on transporting humans to the ISS?

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26 May 20 - 10:59 AM (#4055284)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mrrzy

Weather may delay the launch anyway.

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26 May 20 - 11:09 AM (#4055289)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: punkfolkrocker

Hasn't trump already suggested top USA science corporations
should quickly build matter teleportation machines,
like transporters in Star Trek...???

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27 May 20 - 08:49 AM (#4055465)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mrrzy

There will be a 10am (Mudcat time) meeting about the weather.

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27 May 20 - 01:43 PM (#4055490)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Backwoodsman

If we get clear skies, the ISS will be visible in the UK at around 21:20, followed by Space-X at 21:50 tonight. Look west, just to the right of the moon, they will be travelling to overhead.

Info. from Tim Peake’s FaceBook Page.

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27 May 20 - 02:24 PM (#4055496)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

Mucinex is going into orbit as a precaution in this immunocomplex mission by SpaceX complete with socal distancing.
Tornado warnings were mentioned and the announcer is more suited for a sporting event or dog show. Tensions are rising, the countdown has begun and THEY HAVE cut to a Verizon commercial followed by Good RX and a Miralax commerial.

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27 May 20 - 02:50 PM (#4055504)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mrrzy

Anybody else watching the live coverage?

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27 May 20 - 03:00 PM (#4055507)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

Now they are doing a fashion show about the new space x suits made by Playtex. I recognize the guy doing this segment as the star of the show Blowed Up Good. aah Here he is now, William Shatner is giving his blessing,,,the fat lady has sung and finally...
I am looking at a blonde woman (Katy Perry?) and her mini dog sitting on a suspended paper moon cresant covered with glitter? An...d
another Miralax commericial followed by a Humira ad.
I better change the channel.

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27 May 20 - 03:06 PM (#4055511)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Jeri

Liftoff is at 4:33 AT. I'll go back then. I've never been a big fan of pre-game shows.

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27 May 20 - 03:25 PM (#4055513)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

I switched from the Science Channel to the Discovery channel and apparantly Miralax is also their sponsor. It has me wondering if an astronaut needs Miralax laxative after the main engines kick in and they go to 7 g's in 20 seconds..
Cool, the seats are Ricarro race car seats. Uh oh, the controls are all touch screen. They have just changed the Master of Ceremonies to the guy who does Overhauling and Mercum auto auctions.

I think I'll come back in an hour

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27 May 20 - 04:18 PM (#4055523)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mrrzy

No launch today.

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27 May 20 - 04:27 PM (#4055526)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

The President and his sidekick Pense just arrived a little late at which point Elon Musk immediately scrubbed the flight due to weather sighting of lightning in the last half hour.

Trump grumbled about a **** waste of time and may drag this out with an Investigation that is rumored to be called Elon Gate.

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27 May 20 - 04:30 PM (#4055528)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Charmion

You'll never get me up on one of those. I'm with Joe Offer; Elon Musk is way too Trumpy to be trusted.

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27 May 20 - 05:50 PM (#4055539)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mr Red

Elon didn't get to where he is today..........................

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27 May 20 - 06:06 PM (#4055542)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: EBarnacle

Lady Hilary and I tuned in about 4:20 and got the news of the postponement to Saturday. See you there?

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27 May 20 - 06:56 PM (#4055548)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

IF Trapped in an elevator with Musk or Trump, I'm a Musk man.
Even Trumps digestive system is rotton. Besides I like ideas over hate.

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28 May 20 - 05:08 AM (#4055585)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mr Red

How SpaceX and Boeing will get Astronauts to the ISS Everyday Astronaut on YT

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28 May 20 - 06:41 AM (#4055598)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

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28 May 20 - 06:44 AM (#4055599)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

Pilots Bob and Doug are both married to former astronauts

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28 May 20 - 07:44 AM (#4055604)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mrrzy

Why oh why is the news only calling them by their first names? They are professionals!

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28 May 20 - 09:29 AM (#4055622)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mossback

Musk is interested in space because planet earth is much too small to contain his monumental ego.

Pretty amusing coming from a car salesman.

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28 May 20 - 09:30 AM (#4055623)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Charmion's brother Andrew

To what profession do they belong, Mrrzy? They're transport vehicle operators--highly trained and skilled, I'll wager--but transport vehicle operators all the same. Transport vehicle operator is an occupation, not a profession, as it lacks ethics and has no social sanction for its own control over admission to the occupation. (It does have operating principles: stay alive and deliver the passengers and cargo. These go to ensuring returns for the shareholders.)

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28 May 20 - 09:56 AM (#4055633)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mossback

it lacks ethics and has no social sanction for its own control over admission to the occupation

Rather like Elon himself, then?

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28 May 20 - 10:44 AM (#4055639)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: punkfolkrocker

Is musk real life Bond villain...???

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28 May 20 - 01:49 PM (#4055663)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

Once you put a new car in orbit you are in advertising - not sales.

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28 May 20 - 05:02 PM (#4055710)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mrrzy

Um, astronaut?

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30 May 20 - 03:33 PM (#4056085)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: EBarnacle

Aand they're off.
A few years ago, Lady Hillary and I watched a launch from as close as they allowed the public to get. The sound was stunning and it was exciting to watch

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30 May 20 - 06:02 PM (#4056115)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

What an incredible waste of time, money and human resources. We don't have the will or moral decency to even attempt to save our own planet but we're eager to spread our garbage into the rest of the universe so rich guys can cross another item off their "bucket list" with a ride into outer space.

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30 May 20 - 06:14 PM (#4056117)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mossback

Now, c'mon - Musk is gonna save the world, just like Shitter & Farcebook.

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30 May 20 - 06:31 PM (#4056120)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

and if Prez dumbshit is enthusiastic then there's got to be something hinky about it. Perhaps a "branding" opportunity or at least another way to line the pockets of his cronies.

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30 May 20 - 10:31 PM (#4056131)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mrrzy

Not a waste. We have to be able to survive our planet. Unless we can move our world like the moties did...

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31 May 20 - 12:43 AM (#4056144)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: EBarnacle

Yes, it is a huge expenditure of funds. Ask yourself how much of modern technology has been spun off from the various space programs.

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31 May 20 - 02:16 AM (#4056157)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Backwoodsman

Even if the only benefits we got from space programs were Velcro and Vespel, it would be worth it.

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31 May 20 - 06:02 AM (#4056193)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

Mrrzy wrote: "We have to be able to survive our planet."

It would be far more realistic to put all that time, effort and treasure into restoring and preserving our own planet rather than try to build an inhabitable environment somewhere out in space for billions of people and do it before we destroy the earth. Imagine the technology that could develop from the former endeavor, plus, and far more importantly, succeeding generations would actually have a place to live. But then it would be difficult and space travel sounds far more glamorous and intriguing than saving the earth.

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31 May 20 - 12:57 PM (#4056287)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: EBarnacle

In case you have not heard, one big meteor strike wiped out the dinosaurs. We need to spread out to ensure our continued existence. We also need to clean up this litter box we live on.
As they say in the business world, grow or die. That also applies to microorganisms.

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31 May 20 - 01:04 PM (#4056289)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mossback

That's as they say in the capitalist free market world, surely?

Spread out as in colonialism? Or as oin Corona Virus?

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31 May 20 - 01:34 PM (#4056299)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mr Red

Now, c'mon - Musk is gonna save the world, just like Shitter & Farcebook.

Tesla's mission statement is to accelerate the move away from fossil fuels in vehicles. And colonise Mars. One out of two ain't bad.

He gives and the takes away. He ain't perfect, but he ain't stoopid.

'sides - he will be dead before there is a colony** on Mars.

**breeding pair minimum defintion.

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31 May 20 - 02:09 PM (#4056307)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mossback

Tesla's mission is to make ginormous gobs of money for Elon, full stop. No, he ain't stoopid, which makes him all the more dangerous - kinda like a Trump with a brain. If he thought he could make more money by pushing fossil fuels instead of electric cars, he'd do it in a New York minute.

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01 Jun 20 - 02:53 AM (#4056390)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mr Red

If he thought he could make more money by pushing fossil fuels

I beg to differ. Like I said he ain't all bad.
His brother Kimbal, and erstwhile busness partner, is something of an entrepreneur also with an environmental edge to him. And there's a business minded sister. And a entrepreneurial eco-cousin.

Just be thankful - being born in SA - he can't be president! Mind you, would that stop him trying? Look out Canada!

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01 Jun 20 - 05:45 AM (#4056416)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

Yes we'll just tidy up the litter box a bit then toddle off to Mars to build an artificial biosphere for billionaires and their useless offspring so they can reseed the Universe while the riff raff stays behind treading water. Jolly good plan.

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01 Jun 20 - 08:41 AM (#4056446)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mossback

Now THAT, Gilly, is the REAL Tesla mission statement!

Thanks for posting it.

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01 Jun 20 - 08:56 AM (#4056455)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

The second stage of the falcon 9 is left in an orbit like space junk until it burns up in about 24 hours. shhh

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02 Jun 20 - 04:09 AM (#4056625)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mr Red

Now THAT, Gilly, is the REAL Tesla mission statement!

Fact check - SpaceX

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02 Jun 20 - 10:49 AM (#4056691)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Bill D

I am a bit bemused at the negative comments from several above who seem to view any venture by a billionaire entrepreneur as merely self-serving and wasteful.
   Yes, Musk stands to make a lot of money with his projects and yes, his ego is well documented............ but... there are thousands of Tesla vehicles bearing satisfied consumers happily ticking off non-polluting miles... and more to come. Tesla has developed a new type of rechargeable battery that, if it proves successful, could make putting up with Musk's ego a minor inconvenience.
   In the same way, they are developing a better way to put solar panels on buildings and designing underground transit systems. You don't do these projects overnight and not without setbacks and LOTS of money. NASA did choose Tesla over Boeing for this rocket, and LO! they have a cheaper way to send payloads AND now passengers to the ISS..... and land the 1st stage on a barge in the ocean for re-use!
   The argument that "we need to solve problems down here and 'clean up the planet' before committing billions to space" is a common one ... but who really believes that NOT going to space will actually get money diverted to all those other nice goals? It just don't work that way. As was said above, the space program over the last 50-60 years has resulted in more useful stuff than I can type here... including the GPS that a lot of you carry around in your pockets!

   The major problems confronting humans right now are... too MANY humans and political upheavals partially fueled *BY* too many humans. Maybe if an Elon Musk would figure out a gentle and fair method of population control, we could concentrate on stopping Trumps, Bolsonaros, Putins, Erdogans and Dutertes from making life miserable for so many.....maybe...

   I shake my head sadly at the simplistic way so many evaluate the complex problems of humans fouling their own nest. Making fun of idiots like flat-earthers is one thing, but when technology is actually working, it is silly to act as though a few billion constitutes waste.
   Here's just one article that I doubt anyone else here has seen..
https://www.teslarati.com/teslas-biggest-enemy-the-spread-of-misinformation-from-the-misinformed/
I found it by going here

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02 Jun 20 - 11:10 AM (#4056698)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

YES As I said I am a Musk man but leave it to Bill to stoop so low as to to resort to filthy Facts to prove a point. What will Bill resort to next, REASON?

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02 Jun 20 - 11:36 AM (#4056704)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

Bill, I have no problem with Musk (except for when I put on too much of it) seriously though, I don't see the logic of going to space in order to develop technology to save us from climate change when we should act like adults and make the commitment to cut out all the middlemen and develop it for it's own sake, from every thing I've read and seen time is of the essence. Have we got time to build a dome on Mars for people who can afford to live in it and use the resulting technolgy to "clean out the litter box". It seems like our priorities are terribly skewed. I'm sure I won't leave my grandson the price of a ticket. I know saving this planet is a daunting task but if we don't we really don't deserve to survive as z species. Now back to work.

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02 Jun 20 - 11:39 AM (#4056705)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

"a species", dtupid fone.

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02 Jun 20 - 11:58 AM (#4056714)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Bill D

Reason, Don? Moi? naaawww... ;>)


Well, Gillymor... what 'we should' do is an interesting game to play, but my reading of history is that most advances... from the bow & arrow to the sailing ship to the cotton gin to a better mouse trap.... were in pursuit of a goal by someone seeking his own advantage.

As a matter of fact, I very much doubt that I...OR Musk.. will ever see a colony on Mars....but developing the ship to make the trip and (hopefully return) will provide data useful for 'other stuff'.

   I have read science fiction for almost 70 years and am quite aware that it is far easier to imagine certain advancements than to actually figger out how to do them... but Arthur C. Clarke anticipated several that are now a regular part of things.
I firmly **believe** that in trillions of stars in billions of galaxies, there are... or have been... other sentient species. I just don't believe that we will ever contact them... or that any of them are sneaking around in saucers watching us.
Maybe we will mine asteroids or put some sort of 'base' on the moon... but unless we achieve population control, all those ideas are moot.

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02 Jun 20 - 12:29 PM (#4056721)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

Gilly
Even the human body makes gamete cells for the future while currently healing elsewhere.

Having an 'either or' attitude or a 'one thing at a time' concept is rather [antiquaited].

We have gone from the stone, bronze, iron, electronic, analog and digital age to arrive in the quantum age which has 3 choices instead of 2.

Simply put; be the tornado, not the trailer park.

As for sci fi , it is the conceptual half of the research Department

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02 Jun 20 - 01:04 PM (#4056727)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

My interest in sci-fi peaked with the last episode of Star Trek when I was about 14 but I'll concede that the Earth might have a slight radius to it.
Last winter I was standing on Collins Ave. in Miami Beach during a spring tide and the water was above my ankles. I never experienced any thing like that when I lived there 30 years ago. I know it's not as sexy to sci-fi geeks (I use that term affectionately) as a rocket ride for the well-heeled but maybe we should be doing something a bit lower tech like dike and levee building around oastal towns at a much more rapid pace than we're doing now.Or we could just have have E Musk whip us up a variable levitation device to raise and lower buildings with the tide.

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02 Jun 20 - 01:38 PM (#4056736)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

I'm glad you are on terra firma for now. The sins of the past that got us where we are, are not all our own but you are correct about where we go now. Levees is old thinking however. Its like leaving the refridgerator door open to cool global warming. Answers are abundant and require a united front, whatever that is.

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02 Jun 20 - 03:36 PM (#4056754)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Bill D

Miami Beach is like King Canute right now... they..and New Orleans...etc... are sweeping back the tides and hoping Antarctica doesn't melt TOO much in their lifetime.
   When I worked a year for the EPA 45 years ago we saw a film about land use and building in flood plains. The dire predictions were mostly ignored as people invented cleverer ways to emulate King Canute... but global warming plus population growth has seen to it that there are very few places to retreat to when large areas become inhospitable. Canadians better be ready to build a border wall... ;>(

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02 Jun 20 - 10:07 PM (#4056823)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

There he goes again. What is he going to pull next? Logic?

As you know it takes time for the giant turtle that holds the earth up to back away from the hot sun. Turtles are slow, get used to it.

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03 Jun 20 - 09:17 AM (#4056890)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mr Red

Now let me see, what large self-indulgent mega-city was awash with water from a storm surge recently? Is this a cluette, a mini-hint, a neo-nudge? That a lot NY will have to evacuate permanently by 2050 (OK 2070 but what's the difference?) I hope Liberty can swim.

Musk is doing something about it. Only a man with such determination "to see it through" - as all his family & cousins have done from the day they could knock on doors selling chocolate eggs (see his Wiki). Who else would have the audacity to take on entrenched auto makers and make them look like they don't know what they are doing. Fergawd'ssake Fiat/Chrysler are paying him money to offset their lack of environmental vehicles! They are paying him money which he can invest in manufacturing to out-compete them! Only one with such an ego can muster that kind of chutzpah.

If he wants to make loadsa money by making cheap space flights - it comes with the package that is also doing something about the world's (mostly USA) love affair with fossil fuels and CO₂

Snipe at him all you want, and ask what your contributions to reducing CO₂ emissions are. Walk instead of the car? Thought not, better your car is less polluting, and who will we thank for that? GM/Ford when they wake up? Toyota when they stop the mendacious "self-charging hybrid" nonsense?

We don't have to laud Musk as a saint, but recognise what he is giving us, and what he takes is but a small token by comparison.

PS did I mention anything about the continuity of the grid and Tesla's Powerwall?

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03 Jun 20 - 09:32 AM (#4056898)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

As I told Bill I have no problem with that brilliant pothead (this from a MM user) and applaud him for his work with electric cars but I begrudge every one of my tax dollars that the U.S. spends on space travel that does not directly benefit the restoration of a safe and viable planet.

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03 Jun 20 - 10:14 AM (#4056908)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

Research by the government began the process of putting that smart phone in your pocket. We do not know where pure research will lead but it has a positive outcome overall. Research is something I know about at least on an administrative basis. This may put gilly and I on opposite ends of the rainbow, but it is still the same rainbow. Without your tax dollar fraction that goes to research I seriously doubt our survival. I have doubts that your bigoted attitude toward space research endeavors will ever change in your lifetime. Will it matter? Not really. So lets have another beer.
Actually I do not like beer, it tastes spoiled. Does it matter? Not really.

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03 Jun 20 - 10:25 AM (#4056913)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

There is an element of fiddling while Rome burns amongst you Musk fanboys.

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03 Jun 20 - 11:26 AM (#4056932)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

the inability to chew gum AND walk is prevalent among Elon deniers. ;^/

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03 Jun 20 - 11:45 AM (#4056934)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

"Elon deniers". The cult of personality has got hold of you, boy.

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03 Jun 20 - 12:05 PM (#4056941)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

Musk fanboys? I told you you are locked into an opinion for life.
One reason the 83 billion we give away for research never gets its due, is because everytime a new discovery is announced, the university or corporation never mention where they got the money. Independant significant research without governmnt $ really doesn't exist.

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03 Jun 20 - 12:09 PM (#4056944)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

With the exception of Elon who did much of the early groundwork on his own, the advancement of science is soley dependent on the government.
Ya get watcha pay for.

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03 Jun 20 - 12:10 PM (#4056945)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

You bonehead, go back and read what I wrote. Actually don't bother, I forgot that old adage, "Never wrestle with a pig. You just get dirty and the pig enjoys it."

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03 Jun 20 - 05:35 PM (#4057026)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

That sounds like a man who is determined to not change his mind.
Which I knew all along. Giving away 83 Billion dollars for research is a hard job and makes some folks angry. Perhaps you are reading my words with an imagined voice of malice. It should be read as a patient humorous sounding voice with a touch of exasperation.
The grants we are responsible for are not space projects but medical research alone. You should see the military budget!

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03 Jun 20 - 05:50 PM (#4057030)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

Once again, read what I wrote, bonehead. You're ascribing arguments to me that I've not been making which is a tactic you use occasionally for gawd knows what reason. Now I'm done with you.

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04 Jun 20 - 07:42 AM (#4057154)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

It is true I am expanding and changing the conversation tp what I know more about. In the old days when IBM was making Moon Shot computers there were were many who thought space programs were a waste of money.
I always read your posts, particularly about baseball.
If you really want a response about personality cults I was a fan of Obama. As for Musk, to me his personality seems as devoid and distracted as Zuckerberg but I have only heard him rarely.

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05 Jun 20 - 03:32 AM (#4057364)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mr Red

Give musk a break. His mission statement is to rid the world of gas-guzzling vehicles. Particularly in the USA.
Ya need vision to do that, and a huge big lever. And along the way ya have to fight with the opposition's weapons to some extent. He ain't perfect, but he is effective.

How many can start a software company, sell it,
co-found a money-handling company, sell it,
start a spaceship company in opposition to entrenched establishment,
propel a car making company in opposition to entrenched establishment, and be successful at each?
Rockerfeller, Ford, Vanderbuilt were pretty mono-culture by comparison.

He is even more - boring!

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06 Jun 20 - 02:01 PM (#4057710)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Donuel

Is re entry for Space X problomatic in any way?

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07 Jun 20 - 04:47 AM (#4057826)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: Mr Red

COVID-19 is bad, but it won't do for the human race.
Climate change will.
Unless Musk can convince enough climate change deniers (& do nothingers) that electric vehicles, and personal electricity generation & storage are gonna make a change.

But the good news is, the planet will survive. For a few billion years that is.

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07 Jun 20 - 05:19 AM (#4057832)
Subject: RE: BS: Upcoming crewed Space-X launch 27/5/20
From: gillymor

The planet will survive but it will survive without our descendants if we don't start taking this seriously and act as good stewards for their sake. I don't see that as good news in any way shape or form.

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Closed, because we seem to be done talking about the "Upcoming crewed Space-X launch" and this has become an opportunity to post somewhat related flame bait.

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