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BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!

27 Jul 20 - 05:22 PM (#4066175)
Subject: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Bonzo3legs

We started watching a spruced up version of Gone With the Wind this evening, and I was surprised to see that the character played by Leslie Howard was allowed home from the army on "furlough leave"!!


27 Jul 20 - 10:16 PM (#4066221)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Donuel

Furloughs were formal leaves from military service granted to enlisted men from the Union or Confederate armies. These furloughs, whether bestowed on Yankee or Rebel soldiers, could only be granted by commanding officers attached to the soldier's company or regiment.
I thought Leslie Howard was an officer and probably had certain priviledge. Maybe he furloughed himself?


27 Jul 20 - 10:19 PM (#4066225)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Mrrzy

Sounds to me like a pet peeve redundancy to me...


28 Jul 20 - 07:46 AM (#4066259)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Bonzo3legs

Pardon?


29 Jul 20 - 01:43 AM (#4066367)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Mr Red

did he say "I'll be back, furlong" - ?


29 Jul 20 - 02:55 AM (#4066371)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Backwoodsman

In the mid-‘50s I had a couple of friends whose dads were in the USAF at the nearby base. I recall them talking about their dads being ‘on furlough’, which I understood to mean ‘on leave’.


29 Jul 20 - 08:35 AM (#4066403)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Noreen

Yes, prior to lockdown here in the UK I had only ever heard the word "furlough" used on Sergeant Bilko, when it referred to time on leave from the army.

During lockdown (here in the UK) it has a new definition as the time workers are at home, not working due to Covid-19, with wages being paid all or in part by the government. Does it have that new meaning in other countries too?


30 Jul 20 - 03:10 PM (#4066611)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Lighter

Furloughs were rare for enlisted men during the Civil War. They were mainly granted for (very) serious illness or injury, or upon re-enlistment.

Officers, however, could request a furlough for almost any reason.


31 Jul 20 - 07:09 AM (#4066684)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Bonzo3legs

Well it was only a film, but a very good one, superb video quality although the soundtrack was very quiet for some reason. Clark Gable seemed to have a permanent smile on his face!!


31 Jul 20 - 04:18 PM (#4066749)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Nigel Parsons

I don't recall it in "Gone with the wind", but it was a bloody long film.
My first recollection of the word was it being used in Marvel comics. particularly "Sgt Fury and his Howling Commandos".


31 Jul 20 - 05:40 PM (#4066755)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Lighter

"Gone with the Wind" has been taken off U.S. television, because of perceived offensive content.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-06-17/canceling-gone-with-the-wind-censorship-slippery-slope


31 Jul 20 - 06:40 PM (#4066762)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Bonzo3legs

Absolute nonsense, the work of buffoons, it's a great film.


31 Jul 20 - 07:12 PM (#4066768)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: robomatic

Not only was it a truly memorable film, there is enough matter in there to be worth whatever cultural faux pas are to be found in its reels.

First Academy Award to an African American: Hattie McDaniels.

Wonderful last line from Gable: "Fragly m'dear I dode give a dab!"

Wonderful opportunity for hundreds of take-offs. I can think of two hilarious ones from the use of window shade fabric for a dress:

Carol Burnett's "I just saw it in the window and I had to have it."
The Critic: The girl has actually used window blinds instead of fabric; she pulls the blinds upon which he remarks "Oh, baby's got back!"

The movie is so full of verbal and visual iconic stamps that it furnishes nourishment far into the future. Sort of like taking various bigoted remarks out of Shakespeare but enabling us to continue to learn from them.


01 Aug 20 - 11:27 AM (#4066864)
Subject: RE: BS: Furlough in 'Gone With The WInd'!
From: Neil D

A leave is usually anywhere from 3 days to 2 weeks, a furlough is generally longer. In the early days of America's involvement in WWII, my dad was granted an emergency furlough because his dad got pneumonia. Much longer recovery time for that back then, if at all. My dad was the only adult child and had 6 younger siblings at home. With no one else to run the farm, they'd have been in a bad way so the Red Cross arranged a hardship furlough of several months. When my grandfather recovered dad went back to his unit. That furlough kept him out of the North Africa campaign and he never actually saw action till Normandy.