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29 Jul 20 - 04:46 AM (#4066380) Subject: Review: Helen Brown article on 90th birthday of From: GUEST,Pseudonymous Interesting article in the Independent (UK newspaper) today relating to the 90th birthday of Cecil Sharp House. Sorry, cannot do blue clickies, but here is a link. https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/cecil-sharp-house-folk-music-arts-centre-shirley-collins-peggy-seeger-a9634281.html |
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29 Jul 20 - 05:19 AM (#4066383) Subject: RE: Review: Helen Brown article on 90th birthday of From: Snuffy There's a brilliant mondegreen in the article, mentioning the "Play for Dancing Masters" !!! Poor old JP must be turning in his grave!! |
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29 Jul 20 - 06:20 AM (#4066388) Subject: RE: Review: Helen Brown article on 90th birthday of From: Richard Mellish I would also take issue with "the collecting of folk songs (led by Alan Lomax in America and Ewan MacColl in the UK)". MacColl did of course contribute a huge amount to the revival, but he was never in the lead for collecting. And wasn't it Princess Margaret rather than (then) Princess Elizabeth who did some square dancing? |
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29 Jul 20 - 08:12 AM (#4066399) Subject: RE: Review: Helen Brown article on 90th birthday of From: GUEST,Pseudonymous MacColl considered as 'dyslexic' amused me. To be honest, I wondered just how large a pinch of salt to take with that comment. |
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29 Jul 20 - 09:43 AM (#4066410) Subject: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: DMcG Not my title! The Independent has an article with that title to celebrate 90 years of Cecil Sharp House. It is a bit of a potboiler, but some here may be interested in it who would not see it otherwise. |
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29 Jul 20 - 09:48 AM (#4066414) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: DMcG Forgot to say: I was quite amused by the sentence "The ‘Play for Dancing Masters’ dates back to 1651." Hmmm, journalist not a folk dancer, I assume. |
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29 Jul 20 - 10:22 AM (#4066420) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: Jos There are now two threads on the same subject. Should they be combined? |
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29 Jul 20 - 10:34 AM (#4066422) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: DMcG Sorry, I didn't see the other thread. |
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29 Jul 20 - 01:20 PM (#4066454) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: Joe Offer I combined the two threads but kept Dave's title, because Dave's title fit in the space provided. -Joe- |
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29 Jul 20 - 02:29 PM (#4066459) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: Dave Hanson can't log in, it won't accept my details, I avoid site like this. Dave H |
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29 Jul 20 - 03:06 PM (#4066467) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: Steve Gardham No more errors than the usual newspaper article. Quite enjoyed the read. Anyone noticed questions on 'mondegreens' appearing on several TV quizzes recently? |
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29 Jul 20 - 03:07 PM (#4066468) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: DMcG That is odd, Dave H. It is not a 'premium' article so should not need you to log in. Is anyone else having the same trouble? |
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29 Jul 20 - 04:38 PM (#4066480) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: GUEST,Peter "Forgot to say: I was quite amused by the sentence "The ‘Play for Dancing Masters’ dates back to 1651." Hmmm, journalist not a folk dancer, I assume. " Auto correct more likely. |
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29 Jul 20 - 04:43 PM (#4066481) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: GUEST,SB ..."Play for..." = "Playford" hence "The Playford Dancing Masters" .... and "dates" should be "date" |
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29 Jul 20 - 04:56 PM (#4066483) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: GUEST,SB I like the comment that the Beeb could air again The London Folk Song Cellar programmes. There's 39 in all. The British Library has a full set of transcription discs. The concept was Peter Kennedy's to emulate a typical folk song club of the 1960s for overseas radio audiences. It was based at Cecil Sharp House (recorded in Trefusis actually) to an invited audience. There were two recording sessions each of 6 weeks long, then the recordings were edited to make 39 x 43min programmes. The performers were the traditional and revivaists of the day including such as Sandy Denny, Martin Carthy, The Watersons, Young Tradition, Alf Edwards(concertina), Shirley and Dolly Collins, Packie Byrne, The Spinners, The Yetties, etc., etc. The comperes were Robin Hall and Jimmy MacGregor. Shockingly Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger were never invited to become involved. |
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30 Jul 20 - 02:33 AM (#4066515) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: Dave Hanson Apprently I can't access the site because I have an add-blocker. Dave H |
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30 Jul 20 - 02:37 AM (#4066516) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: DMcG "Play for Dancing Masters": I assumed the reporter made a recording of an interview and, not being a dancer herself, transcribed 'Play for (d)". But there is a second source of amusement in it: imagining what such a play would be. I see some sort of Restoration comedy, as several dancing masters compete to win the tutorship of the daughters of a 'Pinchwife' character.... |
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30 Jul 20 - 03:31 AM (#4066518) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: BobL I'm reminded (pardon the thread drift) of Gordon Ashman describing the Sheepskin Hey as a forfeit dance for three: one hearer was puzzled, as with three dancers there surely must be six feet involved... |
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30 Jul 20 - 08:07 AM (#4066541) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: Mo the caller Ah, I'd imagined not a stage play but a book of tunes that you could play (for dancing masters). And though it was Princess Margaret who was patron of EFDSS both princesses danced on a royal tour, and I'm told (by someone who remember that far back) that tv coverage of this sparked a square dance craze. |
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30 Jul 20 - 02:07 PM (#4066601) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: GUEST,Peter I remember that, mainly because it was mentioned on a documentary a few days ago. They both danced in Canada and Margaret became patron and certainly danced at CSH on several occasions. I don't know if Elizabeth ever went to the House when she was still HRH, I am sure she never did as HM. I remember being told that there was a bomb scare before one of Margaret's visits after an EFDSS member had decided to use the House for free parking on a day trip to central London. |
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30 Jul 20 - 05:23 PM (#4066621) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: Mo the caller Peter Kennedy wrote a dance called Princess Margaret's Fancy for her, the story I heard was that some of the dances were too complicated for her, but she liked to dance. It is published in the Community dance manual and doesn't look like a dance I would call for absolute beginners, similar structure to a lot of American Squares - 16 bar introduction, {24 bar figure (for 1 couple at a time) followed by 24 bar chorus} x4 then the intro again. |
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31 Jul 20 - 03:13 AM (#4066669) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: BobL Ah, Princess Margaret's Fancy. IIRC that's the one dance which didn't make it from the old Community Dance Manuals into the combined edition. |
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02 Aug 20 - 04:39 PM (#4067043) Subject: RE: The Amazing Story of Cecil Sharp House From: leeneia One of the Roosevelts said, "If you have nothing good to say about anybody, come and sit by me." She would have lapped up that article. |