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15 Aug 20 - 10:49 AM (#4068446) Subject: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Greum Does anyone know the origin of the tune La Mouresque? It is part of a medley of Morris tunes on the Albion Country Band's Battle of the Field album (without the 'La'). One suggestion I read was that it is of Flemish origin. |
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15 Aug 20 - 10:56 AM (#4068448) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: RTim It is from Thoinot Arbeau book "Orchesographie" 1589 Tim Radford |
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15 Aug 20 - 11:05 AM (#4068449) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Tattie Bogle It is attributed to 16th century composer, Susato, from Antwerp, tho' it is translated as "Moorish Dance" (from which we got Morris dances). There's a good description on this website here: La Mourisque |
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15 Aug 20 - 11:10 AM (#4068451) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Greum Thanks, Tim, especially for so quick a reply. :) |
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15 Aug 20 - 12:25 PM (#4068462) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Monique Check page 127 for some more information. |
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15 Aug 20 - 04:53 PM (#4068488) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Tattie Bogle Thanks Monique: just to clarify, it's page 127 in page numbering, not as Acrobat has it! It seems to correspond closely with what was in the link I posted, apart from the difference between 4-part and 8-part arrangements, and predate the source quoted by Tim. |
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16 Aug 20 - 03:21 AM (#4068523) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Greum Thanks Tattie and Monique. I didn't realise there was so much information available. |
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19 Aug 20 - 04:53 AM (#4068804) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Mr Red I could dance a bouree to the modern versions of the tune. FWIW our Morris developed from Moresque - which was a display dance style and performed for the rich. The practitioners were more likely of middle eastern/Indian origin. They were highly skilled tumblers. As a result local English dancers tried to emulate them & with darkened faces. One of the many explanations for black-faced Morris. The hiding of identity had relevance much later. La Mourisque on YouTube (Hammersmith Morris) |
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21 Aug 20 - 02:18 PM (#4069083) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Greum Thanks Mr Red. I had seen Hammersmith Morris's vid. I was coming to the conclusion that Morris dancing probably developed from Moresque, despite understanding that the origin of Morris was unknown. I have recorded (currently for my own use) a version of La Mourisque on a keyboard using trombone, violin, recorder and glockenspiel voices. (?) |
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22 Aug 20 - 05:05 PM (#4069208) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Cattia I wrote about the ancient Moresca in Terre Celtiche blog maybe it can be useful https://terreceltiche.altervista.org/la-moresca-antica/ |
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24 Aug 20 - 01:55 PM (#4069463) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Greum Thank you, Cattia. That's very interesting. |
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24 Aug 20 - 03:04 PM (#4069467) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Cattia one of my passions medieval music and dance as well as folk music of old eruropa |
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25 Aug 20 - 08:15 AM (#4069563) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Greum I live in Italy and would love to discover more about Italian folk music. My language skills are not in my favour though. :) |
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26 Aug 20 - 02:33 AM (#4069664) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: BobL Some of the beers on a Morris pub tour are definitely moreish. |
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26 Aug 20 - 03:06 PM (#4069723) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Cattia To Greum I live in Piedmont, here is some Piedmontese folk music (with transaltions) https://terreceltiche.altervista.org/nazioni-celtiche-affini/piemonte-celtico/ Ciao |
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27 Aug 20 - 10:05 AM (#4069840) Subject: RE: Origin/details required: La Mouresque From: Greum Grazie Cattia. Mi piace! I will have to explore more of your blog. I live in Umbria. Ciao This thread is being hammered by a spammer so is closed for now. If you want to post here ask a moderator to reopen it. ---mudelf |