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26 Aug 20 - 03:19 PM (#4069725) Subject: BS: message to hogan From: The Sandman for god sake go, you have sat there too long[quote oliver cromwell] FAT ARSE HOGAN, get your snout out of the trough. e u commissoner forced to resign |
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26 Aug 20 - 03:55 PM (#4069730) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan From: Joe Offer In case you have no idea what Dick is talking about, which is a common situation for many of us: EU commissioner Phil Hogan to resign over 'Covid breach'
Mr Hogan attended a golf dinner with more than 80 people in County Galway on 19 August. He was also in the spotlight for not complying with quarantine rules when he arrived from Brussels. The Irish government said Mr Hogan had "undermined public confidence". On Tuesday, Mr Hogan provided details to the President of the European Commission, Ursula von der Leyen, about his time in Ireland leading up to his attendance at the Oireachtas (Irish parliament) Golf Society event. After arriving in the Republic on 31 July, Mr Hogan said he travelled to his temporary residence in Kildare and tested negative for Covid-19 on 5 August during a hospital visit. He told Irish broadcaster RTÉ he had not breached regulations and argued the test result meant he was "not under any subsequent legal requirement to self-isolate or quarantine". He did, however, admit he had made mistakes and was embarrassed by the controversy. |
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26 Aug 20 - 05:05 PM (#4069736) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan From: The Sandman eu commisioner forced to resign , joe, that is clear enough. eu stands for european union ,joe, and as commisioner he is responasible for trade negotiations, that would be clear to most , joe . this is a bit more accurate than your inaccurate and patronising post PHIL HOGAN HAS resigned from his role as EU Commissioner for Trade in the wake of the Golfgate scandal and questions about his movements while in Ireland. In a statement published just before 9pm, Hogan said it was “becoming increasingly clear that the controversy concerning my recent visit to Ireland was becoming a distraction from my work as an EU Commissioner and would undermine my work in the key months ahead”. Speaking to RTÉ’s Nine O’Clock News, Hogan said: “I broke no law, I broke no regulations, but I could have adhered better to the guidelines.” He acknowledged that he caused upset and anger in Ireland, and said that the issue had become an unacceptable distraction that was going to continue. Hogan was one of over 80 attendees at the Oireachtas Golf Society event last Wednesday night. The fallout has seen Agriculture Minister Dara Calleary resign, a garda probe launched and the early recall of the Dáil. On Saturday, the Taoiseach Micheál Martin and Tánaiste Leo Varadkar asked Hogan to “consider his position” as EU Commissioner and said he needed to give a “full account and explanations of his actions”. But it was up to the President of the European Commission Ursula von der Leyen to decide whether Hogan retained the role as EU Commissioner; the EC President had requested statements explaining his movements while in Ireland. Yesterday afternoon, Hogan released a statement and timeline of his movements before and after the golfgate dinner in Clifden, but questions remained over his compliance with public health guidelines – particularly in relation to his compliance with quarantine after returning to Ireland from Brussels, and his adherence to a strict lockdown in Co Kildare. Last night, the Taoiseach, Tánaiste and Minister for Transport Eamon Ryan released a joint-statement saying that “it is clear” that Hogan breached public health guidelines while in Ireland. This evening, the Taoiseach, Tánaiste and Minister Ryan released another statement to say that “while this must have been a difficult decision for him personally, we believe that it is the correct course of action given the circumstances of the past week”. |
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26 Aug 20 - 05:14 PM (#4069740) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan From: Joe Offer EU stands for European Union, Dick. e u stands for nothing. As usual, your posts and thread titles are barely literate and need clarification. |
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26 Aug 20 - 06:02 PM (#4069744) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan From: Donuel It sounds like you are suffering from something more than average stress Joe. |
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26 Aug 20 - 06:15 PM (#4069747) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan From: Jeri It sounds like you have nothing on topic to say, Don. I suppose I don't either, so I'll briefly give in. I get frustrated with folks who force me to figure out wtf they're talking about, whether it's because of inability to spell, capitalize, or be as seemingly cryptic as possible. Or those who start threads that, while they garner them a little attention, aren't all that interesting to more than possibly five people. But carry on. I'm out of it. |
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26 Aug 20 - 07:03 PM (#4069753) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan From: Steve Shaw Well I think it's probably ok to start threads that don't interest too many people. I play Irish music on the diatonic harmonica, but I don't start threads on it for fear of being ignored. Otherwise, I heartily agree with the rest of your post, Jeri. |
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26 Aug 20 - 09:26 PM (#4069764) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan From: Joe Offer It's fine to start threads that don't interest too many people; but when one does start a thread, the thread title and the first message should be understood by 80 percent of the people who read threads at Mudcat. Most of us are quite literate - If we can't understand at least your thread title and first message, then you're wasting our time. Same goes for you, Donuel, Prince of Misinformation. The title and first message of a thread should inform, not confound. Unfortunately, the most prolific Internet posters are often the least literate. It's a simple matter of telling people clearly what you want to talk about. If you're too stupid to do that, then you shouldn't be starting threads. Step back and let more literate people take the lead. I find it's best if I don't start threads unless I really have something to say. I think you'll find that I start very few threads. Thank you. -Joe Offer- |
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26 Aug 20 - 10:31 PM (#4069768) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan From: Stilly River Sage We had too many UK threads, and for much of the spring and summer it was limited to ONE BRITISH POLITICAL THREAD. They are beginning to creep in again. Let's not start any more, shall we? |
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26 Aug 20 - 10:38 PM (#4069769) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan From: Joe Offer Well, I guess one could say this is Irish, but I'm still not sure what the damn thing was about..... |
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27 Aug 20 - 01:54 AM (#4069778) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan (UK Politics) From: Backwoodsman This is NOT about UK Politics - the Republic of Ireland is NOT a pert of the UK, Maggie!, it is an independent republic, exactly like the United States. Would someone please remove the reference to UK POLITICS from the title of the OP, and would the Mods please desist from trying to associate the RoI with the United Kingdom politically. |
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27 Aug 20 - 02:11 AM (#4069779) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan (UK Politics) From: The Sandman joe offer what are you on about , this is about irish politics not uk politics. it is irish not the uk. you are not sure what it is about? the post is about politicians breaking covid 19 regulations. |
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27 Aug 20 - 02:18 AM (#4069780) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan (UK Politics) From: The Sandman Are Americans like joe offer that insular they do not know that rep of ireland is not part of the uk. pleasealter the thread titlr and stop interfering and making a nonsense of a post about an irish politician breaking covid 19 regulations. joe offer, you have made an own goal, that insults the irish and all the irish heroes that fought for independence from the uk, how dare you ireland left the uk approx 100 years ago, even Trump knows that |
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27 Aug 20 - 04:50 AM (#4069798) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan (UK Politics) From: The Sandman yes, one of the mods changed it. The next EU Trade commisioner[as i understand it], will be from Ireland not anywhere else in Europe, however the rsult breaking of covid regulations ON THE PART OF FIANA FAIL AND FINE GAEL,might be a victory for Sinn Fein at the next Irish general election. |
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27 Aug 20 - 06:16 AM (#4069811) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan (UK Politics) From: Backwoodsman Of course, what we need to understand is that Americans are taught from a very early age that the world consists of two countries only - one is ‘The USA’, and the other one is ‘Not The USA’. This accounts for their total inability to understand, for instance, the simple, straightforward fact that Scotland and Wales are not ‘England’, or that the European Union and ‘Europe’ are not the same thing. Equally, they fail to comprehend that referring to a thread about Republic of Ireland politics as ‘UK Politics’ is as Inaccurate and ridiculous as calling a thread about Canadian politics, ‘US Politics’. |
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27 Aug 20 - 09:09 AM (#4069836) Subject: RE: BS: message to hogan (Irish Politics) From: Stilly River Sage Sorry to say it, but Irish or English or Scottish - from this side of the pond it all looks alike as far as the squabbles. Don't start any more political threads from that region. Thanks. Messages have been sent to those who wrote to me protested being lumped together historically. You know perfectly well that it isn't the history that looks alike, IT IS THE INCESSANT MODERN DAY FIGHTING ABOUT IT. Minutia haggled over, wherever the source of it, England, Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Ireland, outposts, etc. Name calling. Insults hurled. Stalking each other through other threads to carry out running battles. THIS IS A MUSIC SITE and we're putting our foot down on the never-ending threads that bicker over politics in your part of the world.
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