06 Oct 20 - 04:02 PM (#4074526) Subject: Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Stilly River Sage Eddie Van Halen, Guitar Hero, Dies At 65 No, he's not folk, but if you strayed at all into the rock arena you know about Van Halen. RIP. |
06 Oct 20 - 04:28 PM (#4074527) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Bee-dubya-ell Eddie didn't invent tap-style guitar playing, but he certainly brought it into the mainstream. RIP |
06 Oct 20 - 05:54 PM (#4074536) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Mrrzy One of the first rock musicians in my adolescent memories of the Marine House... |
07 Oct 20 - 02:26 AM (#4074568) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Bonzo3legs He was a very clever guitarist. |
07 Oct 20 - 04:31 AM (#4074581) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Bonzo3legs But I Steve Morse. |
07 Oct 20 - 06:06 AM (#4074593) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: fat B****rd RIP Mr. Van Halen |
07 Oct 20 - 07:04 AM (#4074596) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Jack Campin Seems to have been a legend to guitarists but just about nobody else ever heard of him. |
07 Oct 20 - 07:26 AM (#4074599) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: gillymor Jack, EVH is considered a "Guitar God", even among non-players here in the U.S. and is still extremely popular though he was well past his heyday when he died. |
07 Oct 20 - 07:36 AM (#4074600) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: GUEST,Tunesmith Eddie's contribution to rock guitar is enormous. His "tapping" technique was a major innovation, and even though earlier guitarists used that technique in a very limited way, it was Eddie who showed it's real potential. There is hardly a rock guitar living today who not indebted to Eddie. |
07 Oct 20 - 08:59 AM (#4074604) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Johnny J Whether his music appeals to everyone or not, I very much doubt if there are more than a few people out there who haven't heard of him. ;-) |
07 Oct 20 - 09:05 AM (#4074605) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: gillymor His playing and his band never did much for me but they're still all over the air waves. |
07 Oct 20 - 10:09 AM (#4074610) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle You might not have heard of him, but you certainly heard him. That guitar riff at the start and throughout Michael Jackson's Black and White song As for the tapping technique. He may not have invented it, but it was Eddie who glamourised it. Like the late great Eric Roche, Eddie re-imagined guitar playing, and after him you played with the knowledge that the guitar could do things previously unthought of. All kinds of players could be heard incorporating (or at least trying to incorporate) tapping into their playing - jazz, folk, the so called 'shredders' of course, air head pop By the way, when ordinary musicians without being ordered by a formal set of rules adopt a technique - its called 'the folk process'.its the stuff that rises like smoke from. sweaty gigs in unimportant places. You don't dig into the folk library for it. You dig into your soul. Hoping one day to uncover the treasure. |
07 Oct 20 - 10:15 AM (#4074614) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Bonzo3legs But I prefer Steve Morse's playing, I should say! |
07 Oct 20 - 12:19 PM (#4074640) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Stilly River Sage Here's a solo from 1986 that should get your attention. There is an amazing array of riffs on classical pieces coming through in here. |
07 Oct 20 - 01:46 PM (#4074656) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: keberoxu Personally I liked what he did with cover versions of established songs. Especially "Dancing In The Streets," still a good pop song, and his cover version took the song beyond what Martha Reeves and the Vandellas had done with it. |
07 Oct 20 - 02:57 PM (#4074662) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Bee-dubya-ell I never cared for the band Van Halen. I thought their songs were sophomoric and their reliance on a sex-god lead singer/frontman detracted from the music. But Eddie's guitar playing was amazing. I would have liked to have seen him in a more musically mature context. |
07 Oct 20 - 05:20 PM (#4074680) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle Theres no 'should' about it. theres no moral imperative to like the guy's music. for a while he interested string players of all kinds into looking that bit further. Its a good legacy. |
07 Oct 20 - 08:54 PM (#4074696) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: Hagman Al, do you perhaps mean Michael Jackson's "Beat it", rather than "Black and (or) White"? Brilliant pop stuff. |
07 Oct 20 - 09:09 PM (#4074697) Subject: RE: 2020 Obit: Eddie Van Halen - guitarist From: GUEST,Big Al Whittle no apparently its that durdle -erdle erd der! ( der der der der) obviously sampled, and used a punctuation mark throughout. I think it was that anyway. I used to read guitar magazines. |
08 Oct 20 - 06:32 AM (#4074720) Subject: RE: Obit: guitarist Eddie Van Halen (1955-2020) From: GUEST,johnmc Apparently, he started with piano with his father's encouragement and was much feted, playing classical pieces but throwing in his own variations because he was "faking' the reading a bit. Then he got bored with that. |
08 Oct 20 - 08:10 AM (#4074730) Subject: RE: Obit: guitarist Eddie Van Halen (1955-2020) From: Bonzo3legs I listened to 5 minutes of an IEM recording of VH during my drive to work this morning, so excellent quality, but frankly although he played very fast, it was a mess. Not for me I'm afraid. |
08 Oct 20 - 08:29 AM (#4074733) Subject: RE: Obit: guitarist Eddie Van Halen (1955-2020) From: gillymor Good point, Bonzo. I've never heard any thematic continuity in his soloing, he just seems to jump from one ultra-fancy riff to another, couple that with David Lee Roth's peurile lyrics, pounding unimaginative drum work and you have a pretty toxic brew. I suppose my negative attitude toward their crap has got to do with being forced to listen to it on job sites for too many years. |
09 Oct 20 - 11:47 PM (#4074929) Subject: RE: Obit: guitarist Eddie Van Halen (1955-2020) From: Mrrzy Fun article: Eddie van Halen Broke The Guitar Solo |
10 Oct 20 - 03:50 AM (#4074938) Subject: RE: Obit: guitarist Eddie Van Halen (1955-2020) From: Mooh What needs to be said about EVH has been said. My social networks have been flooded with the news. I remember when he first appeared on the airwaves and in the music press, it sent all of us young flash players back to the woodshed. Monster skills he had. |
10 Oct 20 - 05:39 AM (#4074948) Subject: RE: Obit: guitarist Eddie Van Halen (1955-2020) From: gillymor That was a fun article, Mrrzy. I liked the description of Eruption: '“Eruption” is a blitz of noise, technique, and sheer propulsion, like someone stuffing Jimmy Page and Andrés Segovia into a blender with a bunch of Everclear and Hawaiian Punch.' And he was right, EVH could swing. Listen to the supercharged John Lee Hooker style boogie of Hot For Teacher. I just got tired of listening to that band's songs over and over again. |