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10 Oct 20 - 09:38 AM (#4074975) Subject: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Brit. & Ire. From: GUEST,BlackAcornUK I've recently bought this online, but it's winging its way from the US and may take a month to arrive; I'm trying to write something this week, and I think it could be really useful towards that; Does anyone know of an online transcript anywhere? I've checked my local library service, and sadly they don't have it. |
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10 Oct 20 - 10:34 AM (#4074991) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Brit. & Ire. From: The Sandman i think i have a copy, what did you want to know |
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10 Oct 20 - 12:19 PM (#4075010) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Brit. & Ire. From: GUEST,BlackAcornUK Ha, thank you - a very kind offer, but it might be a bit more in-depth than that - just writing a blog about the Gypsy & Traveller role in English folk, and I'd heard that the book has a whole section on the subject. |
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10 Oct 20 - 01:14 PM (#4075018) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Brit. & Ire. From: GUEST,CJB666 Try searching Google Books ... |
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10 Oct 20 - 01:41 PM (#4075028) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Britain & Ireland From: Joe Offer I thought it might be at http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/ but it isn't . It's at Google Books, but still under copyright and not available for online use. |
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10 Oct 20 - 02:27 PM (#4075033) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Britain & Ireland From: RTim It is a Huge paperback book with 824 pages!...and Yes there is a the Final section in the book of Songs of The Traveling People - starts on Page 741. The introduction to this section has a mass of information including listings of Roma words and translations. Then songs 337 to 360 plus info. on each song listed. I have heard some criticism of Kennedy's work, ie. some has been "stolen" from others and NOT credited, and he seldom if ever paid he informants, etc.. However, there is certainly a lot of information within this book... Tim Radford |
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10 Oct 20 - 04:56 PM (#4075051) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Britain & Ireland From: GUEST,BlackAcornUK Thanks all, that's helpful - I guess I'll just wait for it to arrive, found a decent price in supposedly good condition, but I had to look across the Atlantic to do so! I've also heard a range of sad and unsettling stories about PK's practice as regards seemingly unscrupulous annexation of rights and and also releasing recordings without consent of the musicians involved. He undoubtedly made a big contribution in terms of collecting and recording, but if even half the accusations have substance then the professional ethics (or lack thereof) is troubling and a 'what not to do' map for those doing fieldwork today. |
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13 Oct 20 - 01:33 PM (#4075409) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Britain & Ireland From: r.padgett For the record I have a copy of this book, it is quite collection and I did hear stories about it's copyright etc ~ doesn't seem to be quoted much as a source of songs Ray |
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27 Sep 21 - 09:21 PM (#4121138) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Britain & Ireland From: Joe Offer Seems to me that this book is a fairly complete collection of everything Peter Kennedy collected. Every time I come across something collected by Kennedy, I find it in this book. Am I correct? |
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27 Sep 21 - 10:53 PM (#4121149) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Britain & Ireland From: RTim No Joe...There are other songs, etc. collected by Kennedy that I don't think are in the book - however there maybe more on his online site - |
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27 Sep 21 - 10:58 PM (#4121150) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Britain & Ireland From: RTim Dam!! I closed that too soon....On his online site... https://www.peterkennedyarchive.org/ and there maybe other stuff that he recorded for the BBC - don't where that is now?? I am thinking of some stuff he recorded at The Portland Quarry.... A bit garbled, it may be late at night, plus the Whisky...Tim |
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28 Sep 21 - 06:18 PM (#4121236) Subject: RE: P. Kennedy's Folksongs of Britain & Ireland From: Brian Peters Black Acorn, have you come across Nick Dow's presentation ‘A Secret Stream', based on his new book of songs collected from the English Gypsies? I know he's presented it online at Virtual Whitby and elsewhere, and I also know that it be very well researched. I'm hoping to catch it at Tenterden this weekend. |