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Ballad of Ewan MacColl

23 Oct 20 - 06:41 PM (#4076591)
Subject: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: GUEST,CJB666

Archival film is here for a short time:

https://vimeo.com/455457124

Discussion is here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ewh8ssBR6-M

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23 Oct 20 - 08:26 PM (#4076601)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: Lost Chicken in High Weeds

Well this is quite excellent. I've only discovered Ewan over the last maybe year or so, and have barely begun to scratch the surface of listening to his works. This gives me a lot more of the background I need to desire more digging in and to more appreciate what I'm hearing/experiencing. I can certainly relate to some of his social issues as well. Very informative and interesting, *much* appreciated.

Also, I didn't know Ewan wrote "Dirty Old Town", I just knew of it via The Pogues. And, Alan Lomax is among the interviewees! And, and...first time actually seeing Peggy perform! I'd heard her on a couple of records. You could really see her siblingship with Mike in her face at times. Man I dig her banjoin'. Again, very much appreciated.


23 Oct 20 - 10:52 PM (#4076611)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: Lost Chicken in High Weeds

I don't know enough about him to comment on the discussion video, but I just watched it and it definitely takes me deeper. Very much appreciated again, and now I'm also going to have to check out some "radio ballads". Oh, and I wonder what the song the lady was referring to as "Victorian weaving song" is as well?


24 Oct 20 - 12:02 AM (#4076616)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: rich-joy

Thanks so much Chris, for alerting us to these two films - Really interesting and I enjoyed them both immensely.
Great too, to see Ewan singing with his Mam and see other family members performing - and see the happy family snaps posted in the Review film!

Cheers, R-J


24 Oct 20 - 03:47 AM (#4076627)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: The Sandman

lost chicken if you pm me, i can give you jim carrolls contact he was a close friend of Ewan and could give you lots of background info.


24 Oct 20 - 04:12 AM (#4076630)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: GUEST,Jerry

The Four Loom Weaver?


24 Oct 20 - 08:43 AM (#4076660)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: GUEST,CJB666

The Ballad of Ewan MacColl (1990) is from here:

https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/9c504060535f45df8635b23f9405bf9c

There was also a later ARENA programme in 2014.

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24 Oct 20 - 09:01 AM (#4076663)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: Lost Chicken in High Weeds

Sandman, much appreciated, but I'm not anywhere near educated enough to even begin asking questions of someone who knew him, I'm just at a point of wanting to read some good intros/overviews.


24 Oct 20 - 09:09 AM (#4076665)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: GUEST

Books are here ...

https://www.google.com/search?tbm=bks&q=radio+ballads

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24 Oct 20 - 10:00 AM (#4076672)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: Reinhard

That list seems not to contain the one relevant book, Peter Cox's Set Into Song: Ewan MacColl, Charles Parker, Peggy Seeger and the Radio Ballads.


24 Oct 20 - 10:16 AM (#4076675)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: GUEST,CJB666

That's the book I was thinking of. It even includes scripts!!

Of course Ewan MacColl only used the Radio Ballad format as a vehicle for promoting his songs, and left wing ideas about society. It was Charles Parker who was the producer and driving force.

But they were not the first. The BBC in America sponsored a number of Ballad Operas with Alan Lomax and Douglas Geoffrey Bridson, long before Maccoll and Parker were around.

http://research.culturalequity.org/home-radio.jsp

Some of these Ballad Operas have survived, some have been lost.

But Lomax and Bridson were the FIRST to develop the Ballad Opera / Radio Ballad genre.

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24 Oct 20 - 04:48 PM (#4076698)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: Lost Chicken in High Weeds

I rounded up the 8 volumes of "English and Scottish Popular Ballads". I've recently been exploring the Childs so getting into exploring Ewan fits right nicely together with that. Man what a lot of great things still left to discover and explore!


24 Oct 20 - 10:45 PM (#4076725)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: michaelr

Ah, you're down the rabbit hole now, chicken! Happy exploring!


24 Oct 20 - 11:00 PM (#4076727)
Subject: RE: Ballad of Ewan MacColl
From: Lost Chicken in High Weeds

Yep, listening to the 'Black & White: Definitive Collection' on YouTube Music now checking out some of his contemporary originals. This fellow was really somethin' else.