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Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar

14 Dec 20 - 06:30 PM (#4083470)
Subject: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: Joe Offer

Marriott Edgar was a prolific author of recitations, but his works are often attributed here to Stanley Holloway and others. I think we need a Marriott Edgar thread.


14 Dec 20 - 08:42 PM (#4083484)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: GUEST

https://allpoetry.com/Marriott-Edgar


14 Dec 20 - 09:11 PM (#4083491)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: Mr Happy

Hi again, Joe.

Here's a link to Make 'em Laugh/ Monologues with lots of material from Marriott Edgar et al.

http://www.monologues.co.uk/index2.htm


15 Dec 20 - 02:16 PM (#4083600)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: Steve Gardham

Specialised in Biblical stories, historical and a character called Sam.

Best known on the English folk scene:
Battle of Hastings,
Magna Charter
Albert and the Lion
Sam and Noah (Three-apence a foot)


16 Dec 20 - 03:56 AM (#4083680)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: Dave the Gnome

I have saved a CD of Stanley Holloway recordings of Edgar Marriot monologues here

Many Happy Returns

Cheers

Dave


16 Dec 20 - 05:53 AM (#4083692)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: Joe Offer

Oooh! Oooh! Thanks, Dave.


16 Dec 20 - 07:29 AM (#4083706)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: clueless don

I first became acquainted with Mr. Edgar's work when I was at Cornell in the 70s. John and Tony appeared regularly, and Tony would usually do one of the recitations in a concert. Marvelous stuff!

I've been known to do a few of them myself, at storytelling gatherings. I'm still waiting for someone to object to me, a drawling American, putting on a Yorkshire accent.

Don


16 Dec 20 - 08:32 AM (#4083714)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: Dave the Gnome

I wouldn't worry about it, Don. Edgar was born in Scotland but of Lancastrian decent. Holloway was born a Londoner and the monologues are usually performed with a Lancashire accent :-D


16 Dec 20 - 09:28 AM (#4083723)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: Long Firm Freddie

A fine performance from the late Roy Hudd:

Albert and the Lion

LFF


17 Dec 20 - 07:15 AM (#4083861)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: clueless don

My apologies - in my message (above), I meant to say a Lancashire accent!


17 Dec 20 - 01:35 PM (#4083886)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: GUEST,jag

Steve Gardham said
Best known on the English folk scene:
Battle of Hastings,
Magna Charter
Albert and the Lion
Sam and Noah (Three-apence a foot)


I use to do "Albert and the Lion" on occasions when a 'turn' was required, with "The return of Albert" in reserve if someone else got in first.

Sometime in the 90's someone had a 'quiet word' to the effect that it was no longer regarded as appropriate to put on accents and mock the workers.

Like Mother I got 'proper blazing' and pointed out that it was my own accent and I grew up with among Ramsbottoms of this world who thought it was a hoot.

On reflection I suspect that my challenger was tarring Edgar/Holloway with the same brush as Flanders and Swann (where I would tend to agree with him)


Are Albert and Sam safe with the 'PC' crowd?


17 Dec 20 - 02:03 PM (#4083890)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: Steve Gardham

I think the PC brigade could have a point. Some of the Albert and Biblical references portray working class people as being very mercenary when it comes to payment, which in itself is laughable when you consider the way the rich and powerful are ripping us off at the moment.


17 Dec 20 - 03:34 PM (#4083901)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: Joe Offer

Here's Gunner Joe


Canute the Great


17 Dec 20 - 04:58 PM (#4083917)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: GUEST,jag

I think it's largely a matter of how it was intended at the time, how it was taken by different audiences at the time, and the same two things now.

Was Sam, stubbornly holding out for three ha'pence a foot from Noah, a working class person being mercenary? An audience of factory workers might see him, a 'joiner and building contractor', as a hard-nosed local businessman.

The characters are comic caricatures and Stanley Holloway voiced the parts to gently poke fun at all of them. The Ramsbottoms (a genuine regional name but maybe one picked for humour) are voiced in a Lancashire accent but the zoo manager is 'mock posh'. In 'The Recumbent Posture' the doctor is poked fun at for using an unnecessary long words, the people who won't admit to ignorance are all shopkeepers and the one with letters after his name sounds pompous but isn't quite right.

I suspect Albert would go down fine in a Lancashire folk club (caricaturing our own) and in Yorkshire (taking the p*ss out of the neighbours). But what would be the perception in Surrey?

I guess my mistake was not knowing my audience.

Albert's stick probably came from the co-op, but that wouldn't scan.


18 Dec 20 - 02:08 AM (#4083955)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Recitations from Marriott Edgar
From: Dave the Gnome

Apropos nothing at all, we pass Ramsbottom on our regular journey from our new home in Yorkshire to our old one in Lancashire. As it is in a valley I always think it is a pity that it was not divided into the lower and upper parts. Then, when asked where they live, some people could reply "Upper Ramsbottom"

:D tG


26 Apr 21 - 06:45 PM (#4103629)
Subject: ADD: George and the Dragon (Marriott Edgar)
From: Joe Offer

George And The Dragon
https://verse.press/poem/george-and-the-dragon-8603

George And The Dragon
BY MARRIOTT EDGAR

I'll tell you the tale of an old country pub
As fancied itself up to date,
It had the word " Garage" wrote on t' stable door
And a petrol pump outside the gate.

The " George and the Dragon" were t' name of the pub,
And it stood in a spot wild and bleak,
Where nowt ever seemed to be passing that way
Except Carrier's cart once a week.

The Carrier's cart were a sturdy old Ford
And its driver were known as " Old Joe
He had passed pub each week but he'd never been in,
It's name even he didn't know.

One cold winter night, about quarter to one,
He were driving home over the moor,
And had just reached the pub, when his engine stopped dead
A thing it had ne'er done before.

He lifted the bonnet and fiddled around
And gave her a bit of a crank;
When he looked at his petrol he found what were wrong,
There wasn't a drop in the tank.

He had eight miles to go and 'twere starting to rain,
And he thought he were there for the night,
Till he saw the word " Garage" wrote on t' stable door;
Then he said, " Lizzie, Lass... we're all right."

He went up to t' pub and he hammered at door
Till a voice up above said " Hello!"
It were t' Publican's Wife-she said,
"Now what's to do?", "I've run out of petrol," said Joe.

She said " Who are you? " He said " Carrier Joe."
" Oh, so that's who it is," she replied
You've been passing this door now for close on ten years
And never once set foot inside."

"A nice time of night to come knocking folks up,
She continued. "Away with your truck,
" You'd best get your petrol where you buy your beer...
" You only come here when you re stuck."

Said Joe, "Aye, I'll go if you'll sell me some fuel,
"I can't start my engine without.
"I'm willing to pay." but she told him to go
Where he'd get his fuel for nowt.

"Coom, coom, Lass!" said Joe, conci-latory like,
"Let bygones be bygones, and when
I come round next time I'll look in."
She said, "Oh, Well, your petrol can wait until then."

With these few remarks th' old girl took in her head
And slammed winder to in his face;
He took a look round and for t' very first time
He noticed the name of the place.

He picked up some pebbles he found in the road
And tossed them against winder pane,
And before very long lattice opened above
And out came the old girl again.

What d'ye want? " she enquired. And " Not you," Joe replied,
For this treatment had fair raised his gorge
"I see George and t' Dragon's the name on the house,
"And I'd just like a word now with George."