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12 Feb 21 - 11:34 AM (#4092805) Subject: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: Anne Lister If you'd like to hear a good story, originally from the early 13th century but sounding like a part of the Marvel universe, telling of the adventures of one of King Arthur's knights ... I'm recording my English adaptation of this Occitan story, and have so far published six podcast episodes. The theme music was composed specially for it by the very wonderful David Yardley, and is worth listening to in its own right. On my website there is a blog with a lot of notes giving more background information. Here's the link to the podcast. |
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13 Feb 21 - 04:34 PM (#4092988) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: GUEST Thanks, Anne. I just listened to Chapter 1. |
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15 Feb 21 - 05:26 PM (#4093317) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: Anne Lister refresh |
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09 Mar 21 - 11:52 PM (#4096950) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: leeneia Hello, I just listened to Chapter 2-3. My goodness, that was bloody! I have a suggestion. I would like to see the names of the main characters in the written introduction, as I can't tell what they are simply by hearing them. I figured out that one knight is named something like Estart, but the other knight - the one Jaufre is following - I couldn't begin to tell you his name. It would be nice to read it. I looked at annlister.com, but I didn't see anything about your research into this tale. |
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10 Mar 21 - 03:20 AM (#4096963) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: Monique Leeneia, you have the original text at the BNF, an 1856 English translation at Archive.org, an 1857 one at Archive.org too. Jaufre Wiki entry is a good summary of the whole tale with the names of the characters. I think the one you're looking for is Taulat (de Rugimon). The one "Estart" is "Estout" -in which "ou" should be pronounced as in "tow". |
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10 Mar 21 - 09:36 AM (#4097006) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: leeneia Thank you, Monique. You are nice to help me out. |
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10 Mar 21 - 05:37 PM (#4097076) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: GUEST,Anne Lister sans cookie Leeneia, the full notes are on my website www.annelister.com and on the Blog page. We have a slight technical issue in putting them on the podcast page but we're working on it. In the light of your comments, I'll check where else I might add the character names, but they are on the notes/blog - and thank you, Monique, for the pronunciation advice. This is my own translation/adaptation, and the notes on my website explain some of the omissions. There are two surviving MSS, both in the Bibliothèque Nationale and one of which I have handled - but both of which I have studied in detail. The 1856 English translation is not entirely accurate and was based on a French version, also not entirely accurate. There are a number of more recent editions (the most recent by Charmaine Lee, who is British but based in Italy, so with notes in Italian). And yes, the violence is fairly graphic but there are a lot of redeeming features, I think, to take you past that. Not all the episodes are as bloody! |
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11 Mar 21 - 12:56 AM (#4097108) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: leeneia I look forward to hearing more chapters. I have been interested in old music and poetry for a long time. For the Mudcat singaround two days ago I sang a poem from 1557 (Tottel's Miscellany) which I set to music myself. |
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11 Mar 21 - 11:58 AM (#4097153) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: leeneia Chapter 4 is an amazing tale. |
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11 Mar 21 - 06:14 PM (#4097212) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: GUEST,Anne Lister sans cookie Thank you, Leeneia. There are some intriguing moments throughout this long tale, which is why it has continued to fascinate me (for almost 50 years, now). |
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12 Mar 21 - 06:09 PM (#4097365) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: leeneia I've been thinking about something - insolence. In the tale where Jaufre encounters two lepers, the first, less evil leper makes insolence gestures to Jaufre and insults him verbally. In time, Jaufre cuts his hand off as punishment. To back up, the reason Jaufre is even on his exhausting quest is to find a knight who insulted Arthur and Guinivere. So in a society which lauds gentleness and courtesy, insolence is taken very badly. To move ahead 800 years, on Jan 6 2021 a mob of nebbishes mixed with militants stormed the U.S. Capitol, and about 10% got into the building. Again and again we saw photographs of one man - a tall guy about 50 with his feet on Nancy Pelosi's desk, grinning triumphantly. There were people there with guns, with explosives. There were people there who trampled a woman to death. So why did we see the picture of the Man with the Feet over and over? Because of his insolence. His smirk, so typical of an eleven-year-old who thinks he's getting away with something, has the power to make people really angry. In the old romance, Jaufre cuts the insolent leper's hand off. In the present day, the federal court is giving The Man with the Feet no quarter. So my friends, beware of the power of insolence. ============== Other news: last night I heard most of the chapter where Jaufre tries to get some rest in a beautiful garden. When I was about 7/8 of the way along, my hand brushed the keyboard and the audio stopped. Does anything exciting happen in the last 1/8, or is it all just love stuff? ("Love stuff"! I sound eleven myself.) |
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12 Mar 21 - 07:20 PM (#4097379) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: GUEST,Anne Lister sans cookie You're absolutely right about the insolence. Jaufre is also brooding for much of the story about the fact that Kay had made a stupid comment to him, and wants revenge for this. You could argue that Jaufre is also cutting off the hand that holds the knife, of course - but the insolence has rankled. As to the final section of the events at Monbrun - I don't know how exciting you'd find it, but yes, something happens! I'm finding it an interesting process to record the podcasts. I thought I knew the story, back to front and sideways, and of course I have actually written the adaptation, but there's something about voicing it which brings some of the features into a different reality and enables me to see the modern analogies. Today's episode, for example, (Episode 8) seems to contain a reference to PTSD, and it constantly surprises me how much we get to hear about the thoughts of various characters. This at a time when the concept of a "novel" and psychological realism for the characters isn't supposed to exist. I'm finding myself wondering what else we can discover about 12th and 13th century literature by taking this approach. Thank you for your thoughts, Leeneia. |
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13 Mar 21 - 01:45 AM (#4097407) Subject: RE: Folklore: The Tale of Jaufre - podcast From: leeneia You're welcome. I know what you mean about reading things aloud. Sometimes I read P.G. Wodehouse to my cat. |