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28 Feb 21 - 11:42 AM (#4095314) Subject: Tune Req: Peter From: GUEST,Peter Does anyone know if Whitby folk festival is on this year, I have held over tickets from the last 2 years. Booked accommodation in hope. |
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28 Feb 21 - 11:49 AM (#4095316) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Dave the Gnome Have you tried Google, Peter? They are usualy up to date. Alternatively, try the WFF web site at https://www.whitbyfolk.co.uk/ |
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28 Feb 21 - 11:55 AM (#4095318) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,Peter Thanks found it on Google, fingers crossed hoping for the best. Thank you |
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28 Feb 21 - 12:17 PM (#4095322) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Jeri From the website: "We hope very much to be joined by all the artists that had been booked for 2020, please see below, but this will very much depend on where we are with regard to restrictions and venues over the next few months." |
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28 Feb 21 - 03:37 PM (#4095359) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,Derek Schofield On Facebook, they've been saying a decision will be made in April. Derek |
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28 Feb 21 - 04:59 PM (#4095372) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST I thought the spa had shut so there is a venue gone |
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01 Mar 21 - 04:08 AM (#4095447) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,Brimbacombe The Spa was mothballed, wasn't it? I can't find too much detail on Google about its current status, but the venue has advertisements for events throughout 2021. I don't recall ever reading that it was closed permanently, and this report would seem to suggest that this was never an option: https://www.whitbygazette.co.uk/arts-and-culture/theatre-and-stage/no-plan-permanent-closure-scarborough-spa-and-whitby-pavilion-says-operator-it-consults-redundancies-2906358 (For what it's worth, I think the new Pavilion is a soulless venue, and not a patch on its predecessor. The bar area in particular is like being in an airport waiting lounge.) |
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01 Mar 21 - 04:25 AM (#4095450) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,matt milton I was trying to confirm what could (theoretically) happen when according the government's roadmap dates yesterday. It looked like as of 17th May large outdoor events could take place. And indoor events with attendees in clusters of 6 or two households (ie social distancing) And then from June 21st, all restrictions lifted. So theoretically at least, all festivals post 21 June would at least be legal however they were organised. I was looking at the London Folk Festival, which is scheduled to take place in a couple of indoor venues including Cecil Sharp House, between 18th and 20th June. Kind of annoying scheduling as if it were the following weekend it would not require any indoor social distancing measures at all. 'Course all of that is theoretical, in practice they all depend on the success of the previous stage so there could be a domino effect on the dates. |
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01 Mar 21 - 05:57 AM (#4095465) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Malcolm Storey As grandma used to say "You can wish in one hand and s**t in the other. I know which will get full first" I think, and a lot of people agree with me, that any of the "normal" events we rejoice in will be very difficult to take place this year. There are a hell of a lot of certainties that need to be achieved before people will put their lives at risk - I see no sign of that despite Boris and his un-gallant crew and the efforts of the idiots who believe it is all a myth foisted upon us by the Chinese / Trump / Gaddaffi (he's not really dead you know - just living at the North Pole with Elvis). We are really missing meeting up with friends and doing the normal things but its better than the alternative. Just keep safe and well. |
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01 Mar 21 - 06:27 AM (#4095468) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: r.padgett Sue Houston has said committee to meet and decide in April (fb) Anything can happen yet Ray |
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01 Mar 21 - 06:37 AM (#4095471) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Mo the caller Here's hoping. Highlight of the year. Last year I think there was a fringe (since holiday accommodation was open). I suspect this year with vaccination, more of us will be tempted by that option if all else fails. |
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03 Mar 21 - 07:12 AM (#4095807) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,Clive Pownceby Yes Mo, some (just a few though) of my 'crowd' ventured over last year and had an enjoyable time, if socially-distanced. Pubs etc. were open and spontaneous music and song broke out. We were chicken and stayed put but we have accommodation booked for this year in hopes of summat happening. Fingers crossed. 'It'll shine when it shines' as The Ozark Mountain Daredevils sang! |
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03 Mar 21 - 07:57 AM (#4095818) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: John MacKenzie Well I'm hoping to be able to go, but will be very careful in the venues I visit. I shall still be wearing my face mask when I feel it's appropriate. The only problem I foresee, is suppin' ale, while wearin' t'mask. :) |
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03 Mar 21 - 07:59 AM (#4095820) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Steve Gardham Malcolm Never heard that one before. Brilliant! I'm collecting it from you so that makes you a traditional performer now:-) |
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03 Mar 21 - 03:40 PM (#4095896) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Malcolm Storey Hi Steve - I presume you mean Grandma's advice! She had several more which included "If you're not in bed by 10 o'clock you might as well come home." |
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04 Mar 21 - 02:38 PM (#4096046) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: JHW That's going back a bit, course these days we're not out at 10pm. |
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04 Mar 21 - 05:25 PM (#4096061) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST Here’s one for you Steve if someone didn’t look very well my mothers was . He s only walking around to save funeral costs |
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04 Mar 21 - 08:00 PM (#4096080) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Thinking about Whitby Just been listening to a recording of Brian Dawson (RIP) giving a presentation at Whitby on Percy Grainger collecting in North Lincolnshire in 1905 Brian was talking and singing in 2005. The recording is 1hour 15minutes of gold dust! |
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05 Mar 21 - 02:36 AM (#4096098) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,Peter We're any singarounds " organised" last year if so where were the venues. Did Cobblers Monday have their session running. We are definitely going this year got accommodation booked it would be nice to know what fringe events are on even if the main event was not. What about the folk train all wearing masks of course. Has anyone tried singing in a mask? |
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05 Mar 21 - 03:21 AM (#4096102) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: r.padgett Covid scuppered the festival last year Ray |
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05 Mar 21 - 06:31 AM (#4096127) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Raggytash Wow! Did it really Ray, who'd have thought it eh? |
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05 Mar 21 - 06:49 AM (#4096130) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,Clive Pownceby Fringe events last year? My friends told me there were sessions in the micro pub 'Waiting Room' on the station. I think the 'Elsinore' allowed music too. |
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05 Mar 21 - 08:16 AM (#4096134) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Mo the caller The committee and artists did a good job last year of the online festival. If they manage to organise even a cut-down festival I shan't be asking for a refund on my rolled-over ticket. |
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27 Apr 21 - 05:49 AM (#4103673) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Mo the caller Just heard the decision to cancel. How did last years fringe go? being double jabbed I feel a lot more confident about taking part in it this year. |
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27 Apr 21 - 06:06 AM (#4103676) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Vic Smith This press release received from the Whitby Folk Week Committee: - WHITBY FOLK WEEK 2021: IMPORTANT UPDATE FROM THE DIRECTORS |
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27 Apr 21 - 11:07 AM (#4103709) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST Damn, I went ahead and confirmed my B&B booking thinking that,at worst, they would copy Sidmouth and run a cut down concert based festival. |
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28 Apr 21 - 03:25 AM (#4103800) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: r.padgett The pubs will be open no doubt Covid rules permitting and hopefully dancing and singing as usual ~ I reckon accommodation will be well full Fingers crossed Ray |
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28 Apr 21 - 03:42 AM (#4103801) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST I think any dance "event" will suffer threefold 1) people no longer with us 2) people reluctant to participate 3) a tendency to dance with one partner all night 4) a shift towards partner dances (eg French) 5) an uncertainty in numbers 😎 |
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28 Apr 21 - 11:39 AM (#4103848) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Mo the caller Threefold = 1,2,3,4,5! Let me add 6) the fact that the committee (presumably) aren't booking any venues because they've cancelled the festival. I do find it hard to imagine getting back to dancing again. But also hard to imagine not doing so. |
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28 Apr 21 - 02:46 PM (#4103873) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Felipa I foresee in an upsurge in contactless dancing such as line dancing and step dancing. |
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28 Apr 21 - 04:11 PM (#4103881) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Mo the caller Well, for those who find that satisfying it has already happened on zoom. But it's not for me. Not what i go dancing for. |
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10 Aug 21 - 10:29 AM (#4116046) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Mo the caller Any idea what might be going on live in Whitby? I don't fancy sitting in my holiday flat trying to zoom on my phone. I'm sure I saw discussion of a ceilidh on the beach, but Facebook posts are hard to find. Don't particularly want to spend hours trudging round Whitby looking for folkies either. |
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10 Aug 21 - 08:21 PM (#4116104) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: cujimmy I Will be travelling over from Leeds, I hope to see others |
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11 Aug 21 - 02:31 PM (#4116189) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Steve Gardham Ray I'll be there most of the week and I need you to sign some more cheques. Have you got a mobile number I can contact you on when we get there please? |
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11 Aug 21 - 06:58 PM (#4116222) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Tattie Bogle I gather, from their Facebook page, that info will be sent out by Steve le Voguier, to those who enjoy taking part in the big Festival Orchestra - on Zoom of course again, as last year. And hoping for some other online sessions too: very much enjoyed Vicki Swan's Swedish tunes last year. |
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11 Aug 21 - 07:16 PM (#4116227) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Malcolm Storey We will be in Whitby for the week and providing the weather is kind will enjoy just being there during the day. We will probably also make use of the car to re-familiarise ourselves with the delights of the area which we have missed greatly. Evenings will be spent with friends enjoying fine food and drink and hopefully listening to some fine singing and music. |
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12 Aug 21 - 05:56 AM (#4116264) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,JHW Things happen, things stop. Loads of festivals you can't go to this year because they ceased to be long before covid. (Gone with some of the folks that went to them). Too many to list. |
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13 Aug 21 - 12:56 AM (#4116370) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: r.padgett Steve Gardham yes Ray |
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14 Aug 21 - 12:24 PM (#4116522) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: r.padgett Looking bit bleak pub sessions wise ~ the usual ones it seems are reluctant to allow what we expect ~ well walking could be fun Ray |
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14 Aug 21 - 03:22 PM (#4116550) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,JHW Years ago I would walk around Whitby then decide ----it and drive to Edinburgh. Little France campsite flat and ever avaiable and loads on up there. But Campsite built on years ago. Won't want a tent in the hospital AND the A68 doesn't go by anymore. Years before that we used to sing in the Elsinore. Change happens. |
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15 Aug 21 - 07:00 AM (#4116612) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: cujimmy What about the Fishermans Rowing club, there is loads of room in that top room. |
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18 Aug 21 - 07:57 PM (#4117020) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - online From: Felipa loads of online Whitby music, song and dance and storytelling 21-27 August see https://www.whitbyfolk.co.uk/ |
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19 Aug 21 - 01:55 AM (#4117040) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Mr Red If it is anything like Sidmouth - the usual suspects will congregate to play and dance as best you can on tarmac or grass. One singleton carried a plaque around his neck with "Doubly vaccinated, re-flow tested, willing to dance" The grapevine gave us socially distanced Irish Set (yes it is possible) and a ceilidhs on the front near the Bedford. |
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19 Aug 21 - 05:48 AM (#4117061) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: Malcolm Storey I may be wrong but I think cujimmy has confused the Fishermens Rowing Club with the Friendship Rowing Club. The Fishermens would certainly not be big enough to allow more than twenty at the most to be sufficiently spaced. The Friendship does have a large concert room upstairs. Also Mr Red, Whitby does not have the number of suitable air freshened areas that Sidmouth has. The Plough yard in the past was a good place to be and Vin Garbutt launched his professional career from there one year. Such a thing would be impossible to do these days as the pub belongs to Sam Smiths and all enjoyment is banned. Even presentations without music such as interviews, things with string, origami and shepherd's stick making were considered too racy - and as for storytelling - well??? |
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19 Aug 21 - 09:52 AM (#4117078) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,Rob Mad Jock Wright |
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19 Aug 21 - 09:55 AM (#4117080) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,Rob Mad Jock Wright Oops for that last post. Meant to say.... Once overheard at the Whitby Festival many years back relating to The Whitby Hiring Fair "Never have so many travelled so far for so little." |
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19 Aug 21 - 11:04 AM (#4117092) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: GUEST,PeterC "Also Mr Red, Whitby does not have the number of suitable air freshened areas that Sidmouth has." Exactly why I normally choose Whitby over Sidmouth. Kept my B&B booking so at least this year I can do all the touristy things without thinking that I am not getting value from my season ticket. |
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19 Aug 21 - 04:25 PM (#4117124) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - On This Year? From: cujimmy Yes Malcomlm I did mean the Friendship Rowing club, their large upper room has been excellent over the years, and there would be plenty of room to space out. Another good venue I think would be the Rugby Club, but it would be a bit of a walk from the town centre. |
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19 Aug 21 - 04:49 PM (#4117125) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Joe Offer Did I change the thread title correctly? |
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19 Aug 21 - 05:32 PM (#4117127) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Malcolm Storey I'm not sure the Rugby Club would be welcoming to festival goers. But if you want some exercise no doubt they would be happy to sell you a drink. |
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20 Aug 21 - 05:23 AM (#4117168) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST The chairman of the rugby club is a folk fan are is his right-hand men, so I think folk would be welcome there. The Moor & Coast festival is based there. |
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20 Aug 21 - 08:29 AM (#4117190) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: cujimmy Ive been up there lots of times in the past, had some wonderfull sessions. |
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20 Aug 21 - 12:35 PM (#4117228) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST Just driven past. They seem to have somebody else camped there at the moment. |
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20 Aug 21 - 04:58 PM (#4117267) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: cujimmy I wonder if Whitby Folk Club will be on on Thursday Evening. |
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20 Aug 21 - 05:28 PM (#4117276) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Raggytash The Rugby club has for many years offered a campsite for attendees at Whitby Folk Week. They have also offered an alternative venue for folkies to folk, sing and have a good time away from the centre of the town. As far as I am aware they still provide a very good breakfast, at a cost of course, and showers, toilet facilites etc .........and a bar!! |
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20 Aug 21 - 08:18 PM (#4117292) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Malcolm Storey As somebody said in a previous post - things change. I don't know if Glen keeps an eye on Mudcat but perhaps he could clarify the situation. Also is Moor and Coast still extant? |
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21 Aug 21 - 06:26 AM (#4117340) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Raggytash The Moor & Coast festival WAS to have happened in May but was cancelled due to concerns over Covid. |
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21 Aug 21 - 11:55 AM (#4117378) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST I thought it odd that, before cancelling altogether, they weren't planning on using the Rugby Club. Some connection with Malcolm's very discrete (seemingly too discrete for some) comments? |
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22 Aug 21 - 07:41 AM (#4117454) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Raggytash You may well be right guest. I was presuming that as it has been held there on all other previous occasions and Glynn is the chairman of the rubgy club that it would be held there. |
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23 Aug 21 - 05:05 AM (#4117552) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST,Cujimmy Good start to the week, great singing last night in the Fleece, the Middle earth looked good as well. |
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23 Aug 21 - 08:14 PM (#4117653) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Malcolm Storey Raggy - who is Glynn? |
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24 Aug 21 - 05:55 AM (#4117677) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Raggytash Glynn Rogers owns Moor & Coast catering who provide services to festivals all over the country. He is also the chairman of the rugby club and according to the webpage they put up about the Moor & Coast Festival it was to be held in June (not May as I thought) but it was to be held at the Rugby Club as I suspected. |
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24 Aug 21 - 06:16 PM (#4117735) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Tattie Bogle Compliments to all involved in the online perspective of the festival this year: it's running well, with lots to choose from. Never as good as actually being there, but next best thing, and great to see people from around the world joining in on Zoom. Let's hope some of them decide it's worth a long-haul flight to come for next year! |
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25 Aug 21 - 06:02 AM (#4117786) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Malcolm Storey Hi Raggy So it's that Glen Rogers? |
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25 Aug 21 - 07:11 AM (#4117790) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST Sounds like the chap! |
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25 Aug 21 - 02:47 PM (#4117848) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST,Nick Dow Grovelling Apologies for my forced non appearance at the Secret Stream workshop. My internet connection had other ideas. I will post a link to YouTube as soon as I have recorded a presentation and it has been posted. |
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25 Aug 21 - 06:55 PM (#4117864) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Tattie Bogle I'll grovel even more and confess that I signed up for this in good faith, but then other events of the day overtook me, so I didn't even get to try to log in! I look forward to the revised edition. Just listening to the Keith Marsden song presentation by Val Marsden and Graham Pirt - superb! I posted a link on the "Picking Sooty Blackberries" thread. |
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26 Aug 21 - 08:17 AM (#4117919) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Malcolm Storey Yesterday saw a dedication of a Memorial Bench on the cliffs close to the Whalebones to Tony Foxworthy who died last year. The event was well attended. Tony was responsible for organising the very first Whitby Folk Festival as it then was back in 1966. Doc Rowe and Jill Pidd were the doers who made sure this happened and full details of the Citation and the Memorial Plaque which will be erected in the Missions to Seamen - the first major venue for the embryonic festival - will appear on Doc's website. The crowd funding for the event is still open and has not as yet met the full costs - donation details are also available on Doc's website. Stump up and be jolly!!! |
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26 Aug 21 - 10:50 AM (#4117931) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Felipa All these via: https://www.whitbyfolk.co.uk/ concerts on youtube https://www.whitbyfolk.co.uk/at-home-concerts/ dancing via zoom https://www.whitbyfolk.co.uk/zoom-ceilidhs-dances/ miscellaneous special events (youtube, zoom, facebook) https://www.whitbyfolk.co.uk/special-events/ workshops (including a few for nykelharpa players) https://www.whitbyfolk.co.uk/special-events/ |
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27 Aug 21 - 12:32 PM (#4118037) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: peregrina anyone at this afternoon's whitby folk zoom ballad session who would like a copy of the chat, I was able to make one and am happy to send it to you. Put your email in a mudcat DM. (i think the issue wasn't a host's privilege one, but what sort of zoom account you have) mary |
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29 Aug 21 - 05:38 AM (#4118154) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST,JHW Pleased to hear of memorial bench to Tony Foxworthy (though not the need for) (Memorial Seats have always seemed a good idea but passing through the village I was brought up in I saw the Coronation Seat has been replaced; good but with no mention now of why it was created). |
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29 Aug 21 - 09:08 AM (#4118165) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST,Clive Pownceby Despite missing the sessions that Sheila Miller (bless her) daily texted me about and I missed, I did manage upstairs at Middle Earth and Mick Hayward's 1pm - 3pm sing on Friday in the Friendship Rowing Club bar. Hugely enjoyable and well Covid-mindful, masks on entry until seated, reasonably spaced etc. All in all, we're glad we went and remain hopeful for 2022 - as long as we can afford the beer prices! (phew) |
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29 Aug 21 - 06:43 PM (#4118202) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: cujimmy I had 3 wonderfull evenings in The Fleece. I must mention the Bar Staff there who were humorous and very friendly despite being run off their feet. The Beer was £3.90 a pint and the singing in both areas was excellent. I ventured over to the Middle Earth and the Station too and generally enjoyed a lovely week of friendship and folk music. |
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29 Aug 21 - 08:30 PM (#4118207) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST,Malcolm Storey Whitby has never been a place for reasonable beer prices. Even in the days when the pubs were taking it in turns to close on a Saturday night prices were always above average for the area. It used to be not so bad before the clubs and most of the pubs had two price lists - neither on show - for locals/members and visitors. In the days before Humphrey at Sam Smith's the landlord at the Plough confided in me that Folk Week profits covered the whole of his outgoings for the year. The place now has less atmosphere than a funeral parlour - but Humphrey knows best. |
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30 Aug 21 - 04:45 AM (#4118215) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: r.padgett Agreed Malcolm ~ no pub singing, no licenses ~ I have said before Humphrey should consider selling the pub to someone who wants it (the Plough) to prosper ~ I heard some horrifying stories about his treatment of pub managers ~ lost the plot Ray |
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31 Aug 21 - 01:56 PM (#4118387) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: Tattie Bogle A further shout out to those who put together the online programme and events in Whitby@Home 2021: I still have some catching up to do, but some good concerts, workshops, talks and presentations. The one disappointment was the very poor quality of the "Festival Showcase" video which was made up up of various collected videos of workshop output, but then presented as a Zoom recording on YouTube. A lot was lost in this mish-mash of technology. Now, pretty much all the other Zoom events were of good quality, but this whole thing was dreadful, both in sound and picture quality. Fortunately there have been been updated YouTube videos of the 2 workshops I sent in good quality videos for, and these are SOOOO much better! |
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31 Aug 21 - 03:05 PM (#4118394) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST,JHW Bay Horse Closed at Tunstall (village where I was brung up, then had 2x Sams pubs) Sams ad on the door for couple to run. Dare say there's a Sam Smiths thread somewhere. Good sing across the road in garden and gazebo's. Live, no zoom, no PA, no beer. Bank Hol Mon 2021. |
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02 Sep 21 - 05:27 PM (#4118630) Subject: RE: Whitby Festival - Online This Year - 2021 From: GUEST,Nick Dow My presentation upon 'A Secret Stream' is now available. We should be ready for print this month. Sorry for the delay, with the workshop. My internet connection had other ideas. Advance sales from www.francisboutle.co.uk https://youtu.be/CtjiQYINXf8 |