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Tune Req: You'll Find That's the Way of the World

24 May 21 - 06:38 PM (#4107451)
Subject: Tune Req: You'll Find That's the Way of the World
From: GUEST,Tony Hoss

I am looking for a song my Grandma used to sing, described by my mother as a sad song from the Music Hall. Would love to confirm the lyrics, melody and other background information. What I have is this:

Outside the workhouse was standing,
a maid with a babe to her breast,
I asked her the cause of her trouble,
she said 'Sir, I am in distress'

My young man has gone and disgraced me,
left me and my baby alone.
My mother has died broken-hearted,
so I'm left in the world all alone.

CHORUS OF
You may think this world's very funny,
for a rich man a life is all honey,
but a poor ,am can't live without money.
so you'll find that's the way of the world,

If a rich man is had up for stealing,
or commits any other bad crime,
they say it is done without meaning,
and is let off by paying a fine, but

if a poor man is had up for stealing,
or commits any other bad crime,
they say it is done with a meaning,
and is sent off to prison for time.

CHORUS


27 May 21 - 12:44 PM (#4107785)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: You'll Find That's the Way of the World
From: GUEST,#

I have searched for many verses, couplets and stanzas. I cannot find it anywhere. Sorry.


28 May 21 - 12:25 AM (#4107864)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: You'll Find That's the Way of the World
From: cnd

I have found the following, which doesn't totally match your song but is close:

Way of the World

Now kind friends, if you'll now pay attention, and list to the life I have led,
A story to you I will mention, if unto your ears it will hang.
I've travelled this wide world to speak of and it's not only known by a few,
That troubles that are in old England, and the trials that we'll have to go through.
So you see what is done by the slumber - there are people who are in great number,
Who are starving and dying of hunger, but you'll find that's the way of the world.

There are thousands that are out of employment and daily they wander about,
Stealing some bread for their children, they'll get sent to jail for a month.
If the rich man, well, he is caught stealing, they'll just say, " That's another great crime."
They'll say, "It's an unnatural feeling," and they'll let him get off with a fine.
But you'll see that this world's very funny, for the rich man his life is all honey,
But a poor man's nowhere without money, but you'll find that's the way of the world.

Last night as I walked passed a workhouse, a young girl with a babe at her breast,
She gazed on my face with pity, She was in a sad distress.
She said her man had deserted her and left her this wide world to roam,
Caused her mother to die broken hearted, but you'll find that's the way of the world.

Last night as I walked through the city, a young girl with cigarlets I met,
She gazed on my face with pity, she was in a sad distress.
I asked her the cause of her troubles - she said, "I've been sent out to beg,
To beg for my father who beats me and leaves me in tatters and rags.”
So you see what is done by the drinking, while mother is at home thinking,
While father is out and is drinking, but you'll find that's the way of the world.

The phrase 'The way of the world' seems to have first been coined by the playwright William Congreve (1670 -1729), when he produced a play by that name in 1700. There are at least two Victorian broadsides that carry the title, one beginning 'The ways of the world I'm going to review', the other beginning 'As you travel through life, if your (sic) wealthy you'l (sic) find', but our present song has eluded us. John Howson and Mike Yates have heard it sung by several country singers over the years, including versions from Gypsies Levi and Derby Smith, both from Surrey (Mike Yates unpublished collection). Viv explains in her introduction that the words were written down by her father who could have learned them from a Gypsy family (the Bucklands) and her mother gave her the tune which she remembered from her family singing it.

Song transcribed by John Howson
Song notes: Mike Yates

via http://www.veteran.co.uk/vt153cd_words.htm


28 May 21 - 12:32 AM (#4107865)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: You'll Find That's the Way of the World
From: cnd

Incidentally, Mike Yates comes around here and posts as a guest fairly often -- he posted back on April 28th


18 Aug 22 - 10:08 PM (#4150610)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: You'll Find That's the Way of the World
From: tonyhoss

thank you so much cnd! My research got interrupted last year (with a lot of other things!), but now taking it up again and your detailed response is a great encouragement to me!


19 Aug 22 - 05:07 AM (#4150624)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: You'll Find That's the Way of the World
From: Helen

The intent of the song reminds me of this one:

It's the Same the Whole World Over

or the same song with a different title:

She Was Poor but She Was Honest