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13 Jun 21 - 12:42 PM (#4110014) Subject: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST,Martin Hi If anyone know the missing words that I can't find on this song by "Hobo" Jack Turner AKA Ernest Hare...it would be a great help. English is not my main language. Many thanks. Martin Let me sing a tale that’s all but true A little song I learn to croon I think that I forgot the words I knew And I can’t remember the tune It’s a tune my papy sang You all know how it goes It’s a tale about two honest man That everybody know The squire and the deacon …. Debating about religion on the old town square Till the golden sunshine … the deep blue sea The squire and the deacon gonna disagree The squire and the deacon are a….. The deacon swap the poney for the squire’s mare The squire sold his poney then he bought the deacon’s room The …. the bunk until the cow came home The squire met the deacon at the county fair Started in debating about religion there The deacon kept on the devil … ‘Cause the deacon like is bible like the squire love corn The squire and the deacon kept a growing old The squire got the fever and the nasty cold The squire kept a … devil…. The deacon came around and try to save his soul The deacon kept a praying but the squire … and die … deacon lay down by his side He …. and then he pray for death Then …. drew his one last breath The squire and the deacon are…. The deacon met the squire on the golden stairs Now the squire and the deacon dressed in angels And debating ‘bout religion up in paradise |
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13 Jun 21 - 01:15 PM (#4110020) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST,# Here's a link to the song on YouTube by HJT/EH I'll get on it in a short while unless someone else does. |
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14 Jun 21 - 09:27 AM (#4110115) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST,# GUEST,Martin, I will have a stab at the missing lyrics a bit later today. Are you in a hurry for the transcription? |
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14 Jun 21 - 05:27 PM (#4110179) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST Hi, No hurry at all. Thanks! Martin |
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14 Jun 21 - 07:57 PM (#4110198) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST,# Using the 78 rpm posted at 13 Jun 21 - 01:15 PM. Writers and singer credited on the label. Let me sing a tale that’s old but true A little song I learn to croon I think that I forgot the words I knew And I can’t remember the tune It’s a tune my pappy sang You all know how it goes It’s a tale about two honest men That everybody know(s) The squire and the deacon are an argufying pair Debating about religion on the old town square Till the golden sunshine drops to deep blue sea The squire and the deacon gonna disagree The squire and the deacon are an argufying pair The deacon swaps the pony for the squire’s mare The squire sold his pony then he bought the deacon’s roan The hey argued 'bout the bargain till the cows came home **************************************** I'm pretty sure so far, but no guarantees. I'll get to the second half later or mañana. The singer has an odd pronunciation of some words and I'm having to 'puzzle out' what he's singing. Sorry this is taking so long. But we'll get 'er done. |
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14 Jun 21 - 08:07 PM (#4110201) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST,# But it sounds like it could be argue-plying pair at one point. Either way, I think the expression is fabricated for the song. When he was with the Happiness Boys he has to have learned to ad-lib. |
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15 Jun 21 - 07:34 AM (#4110237) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST Argufying pair That was a though one... M. |
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15 Jun 21 - 09:10 AM (#4110243) Subject: ADD: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST,# THE SQUIRE AND THE DEACON (Kahal and Marston) Let me sing a tale that’s old but true A little song I learn to croon I think that I forgot the words I knew And I can’t remember the tune It’s a tune my pappy sang You all know how it goes It’s a tale about two honest men That everybody know(s) The squire and the deacon are an argufying pair Debating about religion on the old town square Till the golden sunshine drops to deep blue sea The squire and the deacon gonna disagree The squire and the deacon are an argufying pair The deacon swaps the pony for the squire’s mare The squire sold his pony then he bought the deacon’s roan They argued 'bout the bargain till the cows came home The squire met the deacon at the county fair Started in debatin(g) (a)bout religion there The deacon kept a-tooting on the devil's horn ‘Cause the deacon likes his bible like the squire loves *corn* The squire and the deacon kep' a growing old The squire got the fever and the nasty cold The squire kept a-slippin' to the devil's hold The deacon came around and tried to save his soul The deacon kept a praying but the squire went and died That argufying deacon lay down by his side He closed his tearful eyes and then he pray for death Then and there the deacon drew his one last breath The squire and the deacon are an argufying pair The deacon met the squire on the golden stairs Now the squire and the deacon dressed in angels' guise And debating ‘bout religion up in paradise ********************************************** Martin, you'd said English isn't your first language, but given the difficulties presented by this transliteration you did exceptionally well to get what you got. Just a few remarks: 1) The singer makes corn and horn sound like cone and hone 2) *corn* is a reference to corn liquor; booze made using corn 3) the missing four syllables identified with ____ are still in need of filling-in. I'll keep trying on that, but what's there is the best I can do for the moment. I'll shake the cobwebs out of my head and give it a try in an hour or so. Transcribed from the recording by "Hobo" Jack Turner, Velvet Tone #1956-V, believed to be recorded in 1929. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrkw8ipqYu0 |
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15 Jun 21 - 09:32 AM (#4110244) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST,# It may be three missing syllables. |
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15 Jun 21 - 09:57 AM (#4110250) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST Thanks you very much. I'm French-canadian and I'm interested in pre-war music in America. I can get by in English but like you say, in the case of this song, a few sentences were harder to guess. Now, I just have to do the tablature of the music to be able to sing it! Thanks again! Martin |
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15 Jun 21 - 10:14 AM (#4110253) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST,# Check back, because some of the really sharp/good transcriptionists may come up with it. And, you're welcome, Martin. |
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15 Jun 21 - 12:29 PM (#4110265) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST,# The writers of the song are Irving Kahal and Lem Marston. I think the missing syllables are The squire kept a-slippin' to the devil's hold |
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16 Jun 21 - 12:05 AM (#4110318) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: cnd A wonderful song I'd never heard before, thanks for bringing it up. I mostly agree with your lyrics, #, including the mots recent addendum, aside from the following (mostly minor) differences: A little song I learned to croon [while the 'ed' is soft, I think it's there, it sort of runs into the "to"] Till the golden sunshine dries the deep blue sea He closed his tearful eyes and then he prayed for death [again, soft, but there (I think?)] |
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16 Jun 21 - 08:25 AM (#4110352) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Squire And The Deacon From: GUEST,# Hey, cnd. I agree on each point. Thank you. (I wasn't happy with the 'Till the golden sunshine drops to deep blue sea' line.) Also, thank you to who ever did the 'The squire kept a-slippin' to the devil's hold'. ******************************************************* THE SQUIRE AND THE DEACON ( written by Irving Kahal and Lem Marston) Transcribed from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrkw8ipqYu0 Let me sing a tale that’s old but true A little song I learned to croon I think that I forgot the words I knew And I can’t remember the tune It’s a tune my pappy sang You all know how it goes It’s a tale about two honest men That everybody know(s) The squire and the deacon are an argufying pair Debating about religion on the old town square Till the golden sunshine dries the deep blue sea The squire and the deacon gonna disagree The squire and the deacon are an argufying pair The deacon swaps the pony for the squire’s mare The squire sold his pony then he bought the deacon’s roan They argued 'bout the bargain till the cows came home The squire met the deacon at the county fair Started in debatin(g) (a)bout religion there The deacon kept a-tooting on the devil's horn ‘Cause the deacon likes his bible like the squire loves *corn* The squire and the deacon kep' a growing old The squire got the fever and the nasty cold The squire kept a-slippin' to the devil's hold The deacon came around and tried to save his soul The deacon kept a praying but the squire went and died That argufying deacon lay down by his side He closed his tearful eyes and then he prayed for death Then and there the deacon drew his one last breath The squire and the deacon are an argufying pair The deacon met the squire on the golden stairs Now the squire and the deacon dressed in angels' guise And debating ‘bout religion up in paradise END |