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23 Jun 22 - 02:07 PM (#4145169) Subject: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST,Emmie Ward I'm looking for traditional tunes/songs that people dance and sing to. An example of this is Mairi's wedding Step we gaily, on we go, Heel for heel and toe for toe, Arm and arm and row on row, All for Mairi's wedding. Over hill-ways up and down, Myrtle green and bracken brown, Past the shielings, through the town; All for sake o' Mairi. I know there are ceilidh tunes with a bit of singing and also some morris tunes/songs. This is for a project with young people with SEN at EFDSS and we have found the combination of song/dance together is really fun for our participants. I want to put together a resource and am looking for as many ideas as possible Thanks in anticipation |
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24 Jun 22 - 04:40 AM (#4145235) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST,henryp The Maypole (Traditional) by The Oldham Tinkers Who made the flowers grow, the flowers grow, the flowers grow? Who made the flowers grow? Tra la la la la la. God made the flowers grow, the flowers grow, the flowers grow. God made the flowers grow, tra la la la la la. Chorus: We’ll skip the Maypole, the Maypole, the Maypole, We’ll skip the Maypole, tra la la la la la. Who made the fishes swim, the fishes swim, the fishes swim? Who made the birdies sing, the birdies sing, the birdies sing? Molly dancers kicking up a row, kicking up a row, kicking up a row. Molly dancers kicking up a row, my fair lady. Cheese and bread, the owd cows dead, bake it in a lantern. A bit for thee and a bit for me and a bit for the Molly dancers. When the Oldham Tinkers were kids the last three days of April were hectic. People’s back yards were hives of activity as the little girls prepared their Maypole outfits and practiced their routines, which varied little anyway. This is one of the songs they sang as they danced, unaware that they were perpetuating an ancient fertility rite. The actual performances took place on the first three days of May. First recorded and published by Topic Records 1975. Album - FOR OLD TIME’S SAKE TOPIC 12TS276 |
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24 Jun 22 - 10:52 AM (#4145279) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: John MacKenzie Blaze Away (Tune used for Military Two Step) We'll make a bonfire of our troubles We'll watch them blaze away And when they've all gone up in smoke clouds We'll never worry should they come another day And as the bonfire keeps on burning Happy days will be returning While the band keeps playing We'll let our troubles blaze away Here we are, there's work to do Don't let troubles trouble you Bring them along and we'll stir them up Bring them along and we'll burn them up Start and throw them into the fire Watch the flames go higher and higher Blazing away, blazing away So come along and bring your worries out today |
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24 Jun 22 - 01:20 PM (#4145301) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST Henry P and John, these are perfect, thank you so much. The words are not too difficult and would lend themselves well also to being used with sign language/makaton. Once I have made the resource I will share it here. |
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24 Jun 22 - 01:56 PM (#4145305) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: Tattie Bogle We have several ceilidh sets that are based on song tunes: one of our Gay Gordons sets starts with "The Uist Tramping Song" (Come along, come along), then goes into "Mairi's Wedding", followed by "The Piper o' Dundee". There is, in fact, a "Mairi's Wedding" dance, but it's based on 40 bars, so you have to play around a bit with adding extra repeats into the tune - which would slightly throw the song! And another few sets that we get get out around Burns Nights in the 2 ceilidh bands I play in: 1) A Man's a Man/Rantin' Rovin' Robin/Corn Rigs (Gay Gordons) 2) Ae Fond Kiss/Ye Banks and Braes/My Love is like a Red Red Rose - all waltzes (the latter proving that you can convert anything into waltz time. 3)Ye Banks and Braes/Ca' the Yowes/ A Man's a Man - also all waltzes tho' I can't stand the last one in 3/4! 4) My Love she's but a Lassie Yet/Willie Brewed a peck o' Maut/This is no my ain Lassie/Corn Rigs - all reels: work for a Dashing White Sergeant. And Scottish singer, Janet Russell, now based in Yorkshire, has developed this to a fine art of singing and dancing at the same time - if you've got enough breath for that! |
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24 Jun 22 - 02:09 PM (#4145307) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST Thanks Tattie Bogle. Some great ideas here. I shall research these, sounds like they like to make a song and a dance about it in Scotland. |
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24 Jun 22 - 05:11 PM (#4145331) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST,henryp Emmie, I am sure you recognised it too, but the tune for The Maypole is probably borrowed from the nursery rhyme Aiken Drum. A rhyme about Aikendrum was first printed by James Hogg in Jacobite Reliques in 1820, as a Jacobite song about the Battle of Sheriffmuir (1715). |
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24 Jun 22 - 07:04 PM (#4145342) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST,henryp Two jigs! The Hundred Pipers Chorus: Wi' a hundred pipers, an' a', an' a', Wi' a hundred pipers, an' a', an' a', We'll up an' gie them a blaw, a blaw Wi' a hundred pipers, an' a', an' a'. Full Scots words on Wikipedia Cock o’the North A 6/8 military march, bagpipes tune and jig. The original version is evidently English. The earliest mention of a piece of music called "Joan's Placket is Torn" was in Samuel Pepys’ diary for June, 1667. It was also known at the same period as "Jumping John/Joan". There is a Scottish children's rhyme which should be interesting in sign language; Auntie Mary had a canary Up the leg of her drawers When she farted it departed To a round of applause Auntie Mary had a canary Up the leg of her drawers She pulled a string to make it sing And down came Santa Claus If that is too risque, you could use another rhyme, say; Auntie Mary had a canary In an old chest of drawers And when she coughed it flew aloft To a round of applause Auntie Mary had a canary In an old chest of drawers She pulled a string to make it sing And out popped Santa Claus |
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24 Jun 22 - 07:40 PM (#4145347) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST,Karen Impola "Acre of Land" - the lyrics are here https://mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=259 and the tune, slightly different from the one above, I think, is on Ashley Hutchings's album "Son of Morris On". That whole series of albums (Morris On, Son of Morris On, Grandson of . . .) has a lot of songs sung to dance tunes. |
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25 Jun 22 - 04:50 AM (#4145375) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST Thanks Henry P for the info re: Aitken drum and the maypole song. I did recognise the tune but didn't know the history. Fascinating about its history. I work in SEN and there is always this big argument re: age appropriateness and music used with older learners. I always smile inwardly at the history behind so many of our nursery rhymes that were not as innocent as they sound. I like the hundred pipers song and a auty mary childrens rhyme is hilarious and could be a lot of fun to convert in to sign language :-) Thanks Karen for the acre of land idea and hint to look in to son of morris on. What I am particularly looking for is a tradition of having a bit of singing that would happen as part of the dance. I am looking in to morris dancing as well and shepherds hey and the washing song are two strong contenders. |
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25 Jun 22 - 06:20 AM (#4145381) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: Mr Red There is, in fact, a "Mairi's Wedding" dance, but it's based on 40 bars, I'm not surprised I don't remember dancing that. Even Mairi's Wedding as a tune you can honestly do justice to the song, I wasn't able to. The A & B music come in differently, as I remember. Dancing is specific, use rubato and dancers complain, quite rightly. |
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25 Jun 22 - 09:36 AM (#4145397) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST,Brad Sondahl Oh Johnny Oh Johnny Oh |
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25 Jun 22 - 10:23 AM (#4145403) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST,Peter Laban There's a whole rake of jigs and particularly slides, that have the odd verse to them. Sliabh Luachra musicians seem to have a liking for that sort of thing. The hair fell off my coconut (×3), and how do you like it baldy? (to the tune of the 100 pipers),springs to mind. |
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25 Jun 22 - 05:11 PM (#4145429) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST,Karen Impola Emmie, are you interested in non-Anglo songs/dances? I just remembered a Finnish one called "Raatikko" where the dancers often chime in on the title word where it appears in the song (even if the musicians aren't singing). I can give you more information if you'd like. |
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25 Jun 22 - 05:57 PM (#4145438) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST Karen, for the moment as its for an EFDSS resource just the British stuff but for our sessions I would definitely be interested in stuff from other countries and particularly like the Finnish idea ( my dad lives in Finland and I love the place) So yes please to some info on Raatiko |
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25 Jun 22 - 05:59 PM (#4145439) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST Brad oh johnny is very cute and I think we could use that in class..our students just love dancing |
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25 Jun 22 - 06:01 PM (#4145440) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST Peter..love the hair fell off my coconut..thats just the right sort of idea but not sure I could get away with the lyrics...can you think of any others? |
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25 Jun 22 - 09:06 PM (#4145452) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: Tattie Bogle Not quite sure what you mean, Mr Red. There’s no rubato the way we play it, tho for singing, it goes ABABAB: for dancing we would play it AABB or AABBB, all strict tempo. In fact no rubato when singing it either. |
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25 Jun 22 - 10:54 PM (#4145461) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh Don't know about all those As and Bs, but many thanks to GUESThenryp, 7.04for some more words to "The Cock o' the North" (Regimental March of the Gordon Highlanders). You might date these to either c. 1880 or c. 1900: "Auntie Mary ... had a Canary... Up the leg o' her Drawers; It cursed the Boers ... fur hours and hours And won the Victoria Cross". (Pronounce "hours" to rhyme with "moors") ABCD |
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26 Jun 22 - 06:42 PM (#4145550) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's weddin From: GUEST,henryp Winster Processional - English Morris Dance Tune (2/2 time). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAi12bcN-g Winster Processional The tune was used for a processional dance in the village of Winster, Derbyshire, England, and was collected by folklorist Cecil Sharp with four other dances and tunes when he visited in 1908. This ditty is sometimes sung before the dance: This is it and that is it And this is morris dancing, The piper fell and he broke his neck And he said it was a chance Sir. I do not know and I do not care What fun we had in Brada (Bradwell) A piece of bread and an old cow’s head And a pudding in the larder. A savory loaf and an oaken pie That we had in Brada A bit for me and a bit for thee And a bit for the Morris dancers. The following words were published in a pamphlet (1978 or ’79) by the Winster Morris Dancers: You don’t know and I don’t know What fun we had at Brampton, A roasted pig and a cuddle duck And a pudding in a lantern! Winster Wakes 1. Winster Wakes there's ale and cakes Allton Wakes there's trenchers (Alton) Birchouer Wakes there's knives and forks (Birchover) Sheldon Wakes there's wenches. 2. This is it and that is it And this is a morris dance, sir Me father fell and broke his leg And so I took a chance, sir. 3. I dunna know, you dunna know What fun we had in Bampton Piece of beef and an old cow's head And pudding baked in a lantern. 4. My new shoone they were so good (shoes) I could dance the morris if I would And if in a hat and coat be dressed I'll dance the morris with the best 5. Morris dance is a pretty tune Lads and lasses plenty Every lad shall have his lass And I'll have four and twenty 6. A toast let's call to one and all And new ones we're befriending There's none so dear as them right here And a song that's near to ending |
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27 Jun 22 - 04:36 AM (#4145585) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: GUEST Fantastic Henry P. Morris dancing seems to offer a lot of wonderful songs and dances. Thanks to everyone for this...keep em coming. |
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02 Jul 22 - 08:28 AM (#4146153) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Mo the caller Obvious square dances (or they used to be obvious) Coming Round the Mountain I want to be near you* Ask if you want the words or dance instructions *the chorus used to be I want to be near you You're the one, the one the one I want to be near you You're the one for me. thanks to the folk process - I want a banana Monkey nuts are not for me I want a banana Give me one for tea |
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02 Jul 22 - 08:42 AM (#4146154) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Mo the caller To save you asking caller sings "First couple promenade the ring All the way till you get back home again Coming round the mountain, coming round the mountain Coming round the mountain when she comes Do ce do your partner one and all* Swing them round and round, don't let them fall** Promenade the mountain, coming round the mountain Coming round the mountain when she comes" Everyone joins in the "coming round..." bits * for a slower group could leave out the docedo and sing "Swing with your partner one and all" etc **Modified to be gender free - which old square dance calls certainly weren't. |
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02 Jul 22 - 08:48 AM (#4146155) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Mo the caller "First couple separate go all around the ring pass your partner going out and pass them coming in Bow to your corner, promenade your own, sing I want to be near you You're the one, the one the one I want to be near you You're the one for me." For both these dances the next time it's second couple..., then 3rd, then 4th. After that maybe head couples, then side couples, the everybody. |
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04 Jul 22 - 12:30 AM (#4146215) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: GUEST When playing the “Gay Gordons”(dance), we use to switch to 6/8 (e.g. ”Bonnie Wee Jeanie McColl”) when we got to the last part of the set. It gave the dance a bit of a lift. |
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04 Jul 22 - 05:41 AM (#4146226) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler With Blind Panic we would start with "Turkey in the straw" for the Virginia reel then go into the song "Hand me down my walking cane" once the dancers had proved that they no longer needed the caller's instructions. Robin |
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04 Jul 22 - 12:02 PM (#4146270) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: GUEST,henryp Sir Hugh Roberton (1874-1952) was conductor of the famous Orpheus Choir of Glasgow for which he made many choral arrangements of Scots songs. He also published Songs of the Isles (1950), a collection of traditional tunes for which he invented English words. Mairi's Wedding (the Lewis Bridal Song), Westering Home and the Mingulay Boat Song were all popularised by Roberton and they remain perennial favourites. Westering Home - a well-known Scottish waltz tune. And it’s westering home, and a song in the air, Light in the eye, and it’s goodbye to care. Laughter o’ love, and a welcoming there, Isle of my heart, my own one. Tell me o’ lands o’ the Orient gay, Speak o’ the riches and joys 0’ Cathay; Eh, but it’s grand to be wakin’ ilk day To find yourself nearer to Islay. Chorus: And it’s Westering home etc. Where are the folk like the folk o’ the west? Canty, and couthy, and kindly, the best. There I would hie me and there I would rest At hame wi’ my ain folk in Islay. Chorus: And it’s Westering home etc. - He also wrote alternative lyrics for Dashing White Sergeant. General Burgoyne's lyrics; If I had a beau for a soldier who'd go, Do you think I'd say no? No, no, not I! For a soldier who'd go, Do you think I'd say no? No, no, no, no, no, no, not I! When his red coat I saw, Not a sigh would it draw, But I'd give him eclat for his bravery! If an army of Amazons ere came in play, As a dashing white sergeant I’d march away. Chorus: A dashing white sergeant I’d march away, march away, march away, march away. March away, march away, march away, march away, march away, march away. Sir Hugh Roberton's lyrics; Now the fiddler's ready, let us all begin So step it out and step it in To the merry music of the violin We'll dance the hours away. (Repeat first 4 lines, then): Katie and Peggy and Patsy and Paul, Callum and Peter and Flora and Moll, Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance away the hours together! Dance till dawn be in the sky, What care you and what care I? Hearts a-beating, spirits high, We're gonna dance, dance, dance! |
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04 Jul 22 - 03:58 PM (#4146312) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: RTim The Happy Man is a Morris Stick Dance and Song collected in Adderbury, Oxfordshire by Janet Blunt in 1916 (I think) from Mr. William "Binx" Walton, who said he learnt it from Soloman Line's son (Soloman was known locally as "The Happy Man"), who was an old man when Binx was young. It is one of the Adderbury Dances that is either sung while dancing, or sung with stick clashing the chorus. They used to do this at feasts or when they wanted a rest from dancing. The version in William's Folk Song of the Upper Thames is different to the Adderbury version. THE HAPPY MAN. How happy's that man That's free from all care Who loves to make merry (Rep.) With a drap of good beer. Chorus With his pipe & his friends Puffing hours away Singing song after song Till he hails a new day. He can laugh dance & sing And smoke without fear Be as happy as a king Till he hails a new year. How happy's that man, That's free from all strife He envies no other (Rep.) But travels through life. Our seamen of old They fear not their foes The throw away discord They throw away discord And to mirth they're inclined. Tim Radford |
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04 Jul 22 - 04:41 PM (#4146322) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Richard Mellish The classic instance of dancing to a song is with the Faroese ballads such as this one but there are other smaller instances, for example from France. |
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05 Jul 22 - 12:35 PM (#4146351) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Tattie Bogle Way up the thread, I briefly mentioned Janet Russell and how she had combined singing and dancing. I have now looked back to the vent for which she was guest tutor for us: she had us doing a Dashing White Sergeant while singing "Waxie's Dargle" and a Gay Gordons to "Willie Brewed a Peck o' Maut" and "Hap an Row". The group she is/was involved with is called "Jig-Jaw" (Google wants to sell me jig-saws!) See: Jig-Jaw |
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12 Jul 22 - 03:42 PM (#4147121) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: GUEST I hadn't checked in for a while. Thanks so much for these extra ideas folks. It seems this is much more of a "thing' than i realised. |
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12 Jul 22 - 03:44 PM (#4147122) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: GUEST Thank you so so much for the jigjaw info tattie Bogle. So useful and of course I am not surprised it is a Kerry fletcher project! |
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12 Jul 22 - 04:48 PM (#4147126) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Steve Gardham Here's to the ladies we all love so well though some are regular tartars, Here's to the stockings and here's to the shoes and here's to the bonny green garters. (Morris dance) |
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12 Jul 22 - 04:57 PM (#4147128) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Steve Gardham Red River valley (singing call) In Swedish Masquerade we used to alternate the middle waltz section with 'Womble to your partner, womble to and fro, if you minuetta allagretto you will live to grow old.' We used to do a Silly Threesome (a tunnel capture dance) and it went well to all manner of songs. My old man said follow the van, Mademoiselle from Armentiers, etc. Circle Waltz always had a wide variety of songs, Rolling Hills of the Border, Bridges of Paris. All a long time ago. |
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16 Jul 22 - 09:07 AM (#4147489) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: GUEST,henryp Subject: RE: Does anyone know this? From: Malcolm Douglas Date: 26 Mar 05 - 04:57 PM Formerly pretty widespead among children and Morris dancers, and known since the mid 18th century. See Iona and Peter Opie, Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes, no. 545, for detailed references (including the fact that the song, commonly sung to the tune of Lilibulero, was a favourite of Oliver Goldsmith's). A Scottish form is in the DT: There was a Wee Wifie. In the Forum: Searching for Song: 'O`Sullivans March' (includes verse from Ireland formerly sung to that tune.) |
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16 Jul 22 - 11:55 AM (#4147507) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: GUEST,henryp And the verses mentioned above! There was an old woman tossed in a basket. Seventeen times as high as the moon; But where she was going no mortal could tell, For under her arm she carried a broom. "Old woman, old woman, old woman," said I, "Whither, oh whither, oh whither so high?" "To sweep the cobwebs from the sky; And I'll be with you by-and-by |
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17 Jul 22 - 07:20 PM (#4147645) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: GUEST Thank you. Love these latest suggestions. The morris garters song and lilibulero are great |
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20 Jul 22 - 03:40 PM (#4147979) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Mo the caller Having once sung 'The old Woman Tossed up in a basket' to my granddaughter she used to often hand me the feather duster and ask for it again. I use the Hokey Cokey occasionally at Ceilidhs (when the crowd seems right) but have only once tried the Hinkumbooby version (I was calling with a group who liked Playford tunes). |
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21 Jul 22 - 06:42 PM (#4147991) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Gallus Moll Scottish PE students back in the '60s learned various National Dances from different countries - some of which we taught to our classes after we qualified, started teaching. Some of these dances, particularly Israeli ones, had song-words interspersed eg Mayim Mayim. Canny mind them all at the moment, but they will come back to me!! |
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28 Jul 22 - 10:31 AM (#4148568) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dances with songs such as Mairi's wedding From: Dave the Gnome Land of 1000 Dances, Wilson Pickett :-) |