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10 Aug 22 - 10:10 AM (#4149914) Subject: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw I'm not a massive fan of bottled beer in general, but in this unusually hot weather, and after bit of overheated garden labour, I've found myself swigging large bottles of Peroni (found mysteriously present in cupboard, moved to fridge) and enjoying them bigly of an early evening. There was also a bottle of Moretti in there. It was fine but I preferred the Peroni. I remember that when we were in temperatures of 38 or 40 in Andalucía we drank beaucoup de little bottles of ice-cold CruzCampo, very nice too. I haven't seen that one here. There's a village poolside bar in the Alpujarras that had a gorgeous lager called Alhambra. I think that was my favourite. There's something about swigging from the bottle that appeals. This is going to be a hot summer weather habit only. I'm a novice at this bottled lager lark so tell me what you like. You are not, however, allowed to mention Budweiser, Carling or Fosters or zero alcohol, and it's useless if I can't buy it here. Cheers! |
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10 Aug 22 - 10:55 AM (#4149918) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman Well, for medical reasons, I have to make do with the ‘alcohol-free’ version of Peroni but, as these things go, it’s reasonably palatable. But I insist on a glass - despite what some people believe, we aren’t savages out here in the Backwoods. ;-) |
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10 Aug 22 - 11:05 AM (#4149919) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Mrs Steve has taken to drinking alcohol-free beers at times. I drink the versions with alcohol for medical reasons ;-) Hey, let's not turn this into a temperance/prohibition thread! |
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10 Aug 22 - 11:48 AM (#4149924) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Budweiser Budvar - The proper stuff from the Czech Republic Staropramen from the same place Lost Lager by Brew Dog (Scotland) A few good Spanish ones hitting the market too. Cheers! |
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10 Aug 22 - 12:05 PM (#4149928) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Doug Chadwick There's something about swigging from the bottle that appeals. Erm? ..... nah! I'm with BWM on the need for a glass. DC |
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10 Aug 22 - 12:06 PM (#4149929) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Rapparee Moose Drool. Bitch Creek. Midnight Satin. Belligerent Ass. Irish Death. Bad Frog. Many more. Too bad that y'all can't sample them and you are force-fed Budweiser and Coors Lite. A nice Alaska White is great on a hot day. |
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10 Aug 22 - 01:45 PM (#4149931) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Some of the new bottled pale ales are very nice cold too - Particulary a double dry hopped one called Kaihe that I tried the other day. Brewed by Donkeystone abd available in Lidl :-) Mind you, that was canned rather than bottled now I think on. Still, very tasty anyway. |
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10 Aug 22 - 01:58 PM (#4149932) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Donuel https://untappd.com/b/albani-bryggerierne-giraf-beer-10/550970 One is good, two and your face goes numb, three and you wobble, 4 and you fall down muttering about what upstanding blokes we all are. There is a curious white powder that drifts about at the bottom of the bottle but it tastes light and bright. Drinking six bottles is for medicinal purposes only. |
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10 Aug 22 - 02:49 PM (#4149935) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome 10% ABV is a silly strength for beer |
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10 Aug 22 - 03:25 PM (#4149938) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman "10% ABV is a silly strength for beer" I agree. You'd be pissed as a fart before you'd had enough. |
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10 Aug 22 - 05:55 PM (#4149946) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw I think I had that genuine Budweiser in Prague in 2006 (it was urgently needed to wash down the terrible dumpling-led grub that obtained at the time...) I haven't supped Stella/wifebeater for at least 25 years but remember it as OK on a summer night/drifting away. The Bude Morrisons has stacks of bottled beers of many varieties, usually near the front entrance, I suppose because of the hot weather. |
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11 Aug 22 - 06:39 AM (#4149975) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome The tale is that the US version was named and made in honour of the original. How someone could so utterly screw up an excellent beer is beyond me :-D |
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11 Aug 22 - 09:28 AM (#4149985) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Senoufou Ugh the lot of you! The only bottled ale worth considering is OLD SPECKLED HEN!(by Greene King) Okay? |
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11 Aug 22 - 09:45 AM (#4149988) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Stilly River Sage Dark beers like Shiner Bock and Negra Modelo are my favorites. Bud and Coors and Miller and most of that is bleh. |
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11 Aug 22 - 09:57 AM (#4149991) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman I drank a substantial amount of Shiner Bock during my stays in Houston TX on business trips. I thought it was rather nice - better than the usual American non-beers posing as beers. I agree with you also about Bud (US version), Coors, and Miller. But, as I’m no longer a partaker, it’s all immaterial AFAIC… |
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11 Aug 22 - 10:16 AM (#4149992) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: G-Force Our son would drink nothing but lager until he was about forty. Then I managed to get him to have a taste of Badger Golden Champion, since when he only drinks bitter. |
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11 Aug 22 - 10:39 AM (#4149994) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion Lager rules in the steam heat of summer in southern Ontario, and we have so many small lical breweries that it’s impossible to taste even a representative sample. My mother claimed to have been quite unable to drink beer of any kind until she learned to mix cement — the parents were installing a new wellhead, and it was a typically tropical July in the Ottawa Valley. I’m with the Backwoodsman on the subject of drinking vessels — a glass or mug is a must. Put it in the freezer before starting your shift in the garden, and enjoy the even frostier treat when you’re finished (in at least two senses of the word). Due to weight and fragility, the beer bottle is a threatened species in these parts, as most breweries have shifted completely to tins. I will not drink from a tin if I have any choice in the matter. I keep imagining myself with a cut lip. |
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11 Aug 22 - 10:49 AM (#4149995) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: gillymor I'm more of an ale drinker but I jump on Anchor's California Lager when I can find it. Old Speckled Hen is a good summertime ale, as is Golden Hen, but it's getting kind of pricey down here. |
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11 Aug 22 - 11:44 AM (#4149997) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome The only bottled ale worth considering is OLD SPECKLED HEN!(by Greene King) Okay? Old Speckled Hen was brewed by Morland of Abingdon until the mega-multinational Greene King took it over and closed it down in 2000. Speckeled Hen changed for the worse as often happens when the big boys start to interfere:-( Mind you, Morland were not averse to taking over other breweries in their time! If you like Speckled Hen you are not averse to hoppy beers - Try some of the new dry hopped IPAs like I mentioned to Steve earlier. Of course I would pit anything from Holts, Hydes or Timothy Taylors against anything from a namby pamby southern brew any day of the week :-D |
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11 Aug 22 - 12:17 PM (#4149998) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Well I just purchased a 12-pack of Staropramen on Dave's recommendation and my hazy memories of Prague before the hen-party fetish kicked in. The temperature in Bude exceeded 32°C today (see what I did there, Maggie?) which, to me, is cold beer weather (in spite of Mrs Steve's hardly-successful-at-all efforts to ban me on Mondays, Tuesdays and Thursdays...), so, after pork pie and salad on the beach in a few minutes, we'll retreat to the festival tent (aka our back garden Argos pop-up gazebo) and I'll crack open one or two...or three...or... It had better be good, el Gnomo! |
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11 Aug 22 - 01:24 PM (#4150006) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome If you don't like the first one it will be fine by the 4th :-D |
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11 Aug 22 - 01:46 PM (#4150008) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome G-Force - My youngest son did not drink at all until we moved to Yorkshire. He had one taste of Copper Dragon Golden Pippin (Brewed 4 miles from us) and decided it was the best thing he had ever tasted. He is now a beer connoisseur! |
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11 Aug 22 - 07:08 PM (#4150033) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Well I do like the Staropramen, Dave, but I note that it's barley malt only. It's very malty and fuller-bodied than the Nastro Azzurro so, to me, it tastes more like a drink-it-round-the-bonfire brew than a bejaysus-it's-hot-so-toss-me-a-cold-bottle-NOW brew. I'll update my thinking after I've supped the other eight bottles...Hey, she's gone to bed... The head brewer at Sharp's (the legend known as Stuart Howe) once provided us with a tasting of esoteric American and continental beers as reward for our hard work on his Doom Bar flavour panel (somebody's got to do it...). We all thought that almost all the American brews were shite.* One had so many hops in it that you could have stood a spoon up in it. Some of the Belgian and/or Trappist brews were well-liked, but most of us agreed that the star performer was Duvel, the wheat beer from Belgium. At eight-point-odd alcohol it isn't one for drinking all night, but it's dead grand as an alternative to a glass of red with a good meaty dish. It's bottle-conditioned too. *This happened in 2009 so, hopefully, things may have improved... |
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12 Aug 22 - 03:21 AM (#4150050) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Glad you enjoyed it and hope you still do this morning :-D |
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12 Aug 22 - 03:43 AM (#4150051) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: BobL This is weather for Wheat Beer. With or without a slice. |
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12 Aug 22 - 04:01 AM (#4150053) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome You just reminded me. Hoegaarden is still pretty good even if is now owned by one of the big boys. |
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12 Aug 22 - 06:46 AM (#4150057) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome I must admit I have sucumbed to a Morrisons offer. Carlsberg, which is in my opinion one of the better mass produced lagers, was £4 for 4x1 pint cans. Yes, full pints. Not 440 or 500ml. Carlsberg at £1 a pint. How can a trainee Yorkshireman resist! |
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12 Aug 22 - 08:40 AM (#4150062) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion American beer has improved enormously over the last 20 years, due largely to an explosion of local producers cranking out such a wide variety of brews that sooner or later everyone finds something to like. You won’t see the best stuff in the UK because only the national and international brands bother to ship abroad. The same is true in Canada. |
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12 Aug 22 - 11:16 AM (#4150073) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman We’ve had a number of very nice beers during our several forays in ON, AB, and BC but the names escape me. We stopped by at the Hop ‘n’ Hog Tap & Smokehouse in Clearwater BC for dinner one evening, and the (British!) owner brought us a sampling selection of four beers, all of which were very nice indeed and, according to Mrs Backwoodsperson, went well with the Meat Platter for Two… Hop ‘n’ Hog Menu About the only Canadian beer I can recall drinking in the UK is Moosehead - not sure if it’s one of the superior brews, but it tasted fine and had the desired effect during several sailing trips up the West Coast of Scotland. ;-) |
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12 Aug 22 - 12:45 PM (#4150078) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Manitas_at_home Isn't carling a Canadian beer? |
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12 Aug 22 - 12:55 PM (#4150083) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Stilly River Sage A beer refresher from Wikipedia Lager is beer which has been brewed and conditioned at low temperature. Lagers can be pale, amber, or dark. Pale lager is the most widely consumed and commercially available style of beer. The term "lager" comes from the German for "storage", as the beer was stored before drinking – traditionally in the same cool caves it was fermented in. |
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12 Aug 22 - 01:05 PM (#4150087) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion Carling is one of the original central Canadian national brewers, along with Labatt, Molson and O’Keefe. Their most popular product was Black Label. Moosehead Breweries of Saint John, New Brunswick, is the only fully independent Canadian-owned and -operated beer producer that ships internationally. When I was a youngster, a person with normal olfactory capabilities could barely tell the difference between or among the various top brands without looking at the labels. Things have definitely improved. |
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12 Aug 22 - 02:30 PM (#4150092) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: gillymor Unibroue in Quebec makes some excellent Belgian style ales. I'm partial to their Maudite. |
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12 Aug 22 - 06:08 PM (#4150102) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw (Valiantly trying to return the topic to lager)* There was a mix 'n' match three for a fiver deal at Tezzies today, so I bought two Nastro Azzurros and one test bottle of Budweiser Budvar, as recommended by Dave. It's in the chiller just now, but I may swig it tomorrow as we hit 35° tomorrow afternoon. Trouble is, I've promised Mrs Steve an Aperol Spritz tomorrow (aka the tastiest bloody thing on the planet - the Spritz, not Mrs Steve, although...), so I'd better go easy, as making an Aperol Spritz leaves an awful lot of spare Prosecco in the bottle that is in need of urgent use... |
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12 Aug 22 - 06:09 PM (#4150103) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw (Valiantly trying to return the topic to lager)* *I'm not bothered, honest! |
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12 Aug 22 - 06:11 PM (#4150104) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion The Aperol Spritz is, indeed, a lovesome thing. Y’know, there is such a thing as a vacuum stopper for fizzy wines … |
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12 Aug 22 - 06:20 PM (#4150105) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw We do not apprise Mrs Steve of that, do we, Charmion? ;-) |
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12 Aug 22 - 07:07 PM (#4150106) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Stilly River Sage In the interest of following along with the flow of this thread I picked up a Modelo Negra to go with dinner tonight. (Technically it is a Munich Dunkel-style lager.) Skoal! |
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13 Aug 22 - 02:36 AM (#4150117) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Did you know that Skol lager is still going? I thought it had been consigned to the bin of bad memories along with Watney's Red bleedin' Barrel but sadly not. The only thing it has going for it is that at 2.8% in can nearly be sold in sweet shops. |
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13 Aug 22 - 05:31 AM (#4150122) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw I have dim memories of Tartan Keg bitter in the early 70s, at 2.2% alcohol. You could drink eight pints and feel like a large bag of water but still be strangely sober. I rapidly graduated to Newcastle Exhibition, which I seem to remember wasn't too bad. Anyway, if I get hot and sweaty enough today (down, girls...) I might quaff that test bottle of Budvar later. I shouldn't really, as it's Aperol Spritz on hot Saturdays, but, well, after all, what is life if not but a vale of tears... |
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13 Aug 22 - 08:11 AM (#4150129) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: G-Force Watney's Red Barrel, Tartan Keg, Whitbread Tankard, Ind Coope Double Diamond ... I'd forgotten how bad it used to be. Fortunately I've always lived on the fringes of the Young's empire, so decent beer was available, but you might have to travel (evening Officer!). |
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13 Aug 22 - 08:18 AM (#4150130) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Titbread Wankard! I had forgotten that. Luckily all the crap that they tried to sell us brought about the most sucessful consumer group ever - CAMRA :-) |
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13 Aug 22 - 09:44 AM (#4150135) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw We've all supped bad beer in our time I know, but the very worst thing ever to cross my lips was a pint of scrumpy in a pub in Dudley called the Gipsies Tent in 1973. The cider was incredibly cloudy, like the residual water of a two-week underpant wash mixed with urine, was almost lukewarm, as flat as a witch's tit and had what I can only describe as a thin layer of scum floating on top. The mates who took me in to try it had eulogised about it, possibly from a much earlier visit, but even they had to admit that it was the vomit of Satan. I didn't drink mine after the first sip. |
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13 Aug 22 - 11:11 AM (#4150144) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Did you ever go in the Man and Scythe in Bolton, aka the cider shop, Steve? Their cider was labelled "Bulmers Original". Cloudy and flat but tasted divine and after 4 pints you didn't care anyway :-D |
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13 Aug 22 - 11:22 AM (#4150145) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw I supped many a time in Notlob, Dave, but I don't remember that one (there were allegedly 600 pubs in Bolton in those days!). It was generally the Lower Nag off Deansgate, the Wheatsheaf or the Golden Lion (aka Brass Cat). The latter was very nifty in that it was very close to the famous pasty shop. Our favourite Bury pub was the Hark to Dandler up Walmersley Road, or the Two Tubs just off the Rock. |
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13 Aug 22 - 02:37 PM (#4150164) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome The Man and Scythe was on the same street as Harker and Howarth's music shop. Can't remember the street name. |
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13 Aug 22 - 04:59 PM (#4150177) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Bonzo3legs Back in the 60s, a favourite girls' drink in the UK was lager and lime, a fairly revolting mixture, not a patch on the stout and cider combination!! |
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13 Aug 22 - 05:13 PM (#4150180) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman ”not a patch on the stout and cider combination” We called that ‘Snakebite’. |
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13 Aug 22 - 06:24 PM (#4150183) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Ye gods, yes, lager and lime...Not the inclusion I envisaged when I started this thread! Whose bloody idea was lager and lime! When I was at Dudley College of Ed in the early 70s I had a mate, a fellow rugby club member, who swore by "a pint of bitter with a lime top." Tosser or what! |
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14 Aug 22 - 03:39 AM (#4150205) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Rain Dog Well bitter with lime is an unusual combination but I don't think that makes him a tosser. Each to their own. I am a real ale drinker. A few years back I got chatting with a couple of guys from Sheffield while I was in the pub. They told me that they could not drink the real ale down south as it was 'flat'. I said that is because we don't need any sparklers to give it an artifical head. Each to their own I guess. We are all creatures of habit to some extent. |
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14 Aug 22 - 04:14 AM (#4150206) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Stout and Cider was a poor man's black velvet- Guinness and Champgne being the original. Snake bite was cider and bitter back in my day but more likely, bringing me back to the thread, cider and lager nowadays. Either way, many pubs refused to sell it because a) it was cloudy and made their beer look bad and b) it did your head in :-) My mate had his own version. Carlsberg special and White Lightening. Not sure what to call it apart from madness. |
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14 Aug 22 - 04:15 AM (#4150207) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome How was the Budvar, Steve? |
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14 Aug 22 - 06:38 AM (#4150209) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw I haven't had it yet, Dave. At 32°C and with an Aperol spritz down the hatch and with most of the bottle of Prosecco still to go, a pint of Bud on top would have had me palatic. Tonight could be a repeat as it's already 31° at half-eleven and shooting up... So I'll try the Bud tomorrow as Monday's a non-drinking day. ;-) I know this is a lager thread but, as I've just mentioned it, I must say that an Aperol spritz is the most ridiculously bloody tasty thing on the planet... |
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14 Aug 22 - 06:58 AM (#4150210) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome on the Aperol site it says add a dash of soda. Is it really needed? |
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14 Aug 22 - 07:12 AM (#4150212) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw It's 3:2:1 Prosecco: Aperol: soda water with a slice of orange and ice. Dunno, Dave, I just follow orders, and a bottle of soda water is by far the cheapest ingredient! I suppose it would work without. I keep all three things in the fridge. We have these "ice cubes" in the freezer that are made of thick plastic with some sort of gel inside. They are infinitely reusable and they don't dilute the booze, a plus point in m'humble, and very useful if you forgot to put your white wine in the fridge in time... |
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14 Aug 22 - 09:03 AM (#4150234) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Does the type of prosecco matter? Ie spumante or frizzante? I'm going to try it out with our visitors next week. On another aside, Mrs G has a liking for Pims. We got some Aldi own brand (Austins) last week and she likes that better. |
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14 Aug 22 - 09:17 AM (#4150238) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw I wouldn't buy frizzante. It's nearly always inferior, and it's not fizzy enough. The bog-standard Morrisons Sorso at £6.49 is our default if nothing else is on offer. |
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14 Aug 22 - 11:35 AM (#4150250) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome I should have gone for a Aperol spritz. I was cutting a slice of lime for my G&T and cut my finger. Ah well, I'll have to have another to take my mind off it... |
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14 Aug 22 - 11:43 AM (#4150254) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome I shall recycle the same lime to avoid further injury :-D |
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14 Aug 22 - 11:48 AM (#4150255) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Stilly River Sage Straying a little off topic, in the summer if I'm drinking wine I like some of the lighter German white wines like gewürztraminer, or with some of the other varieties I look for the Kabinett designation, less sweet than the Reislings. Over the years I shopped around one local liquor store for various types of German beers and I don't remember now which ones I used to bring home (I drove past that liquor store with the good beer section in the years before I retired, but when that town voted to allow wine and liquor sales this store situated at the town border closed.) They have such beautifully designed label art. |
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14 Aug 22 - 12:02 PM (#4150259) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Donuel Beer art hum... Logger labels spicy beer |
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14 Aug 22 - 12:09 PM (#4150261) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome I just went a bit dizzy and wondered if it was shock. Then realised I haven't eaten since nine and have been wandering round an art show. 2 fig rolls seem to have solved it :-D |
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14 Aug 22 - 12:10 PM (#4150262) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Donuel Greasydick beer 1951 |
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14 Aug 22 - 12:15 PM (#4150263) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome It's funny how lack of solid food affects the absorbsion of alcohol. How do alcohol dependents go on? |
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14 Aug 22 - 12:25 PM (#4150266) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Donuel Its a matter of youth Dave. An eighty year old liver can take two days to detoxify. Careful drinkers do build a tolerence but lose detoxification until they have an 'incident' in late life. |
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14 Aug 22 - 01:38 PM (#4150270) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Backwoodsman ”Stout and Cider was a poor man's black velvet- Guinness and Champgne being the original. Snake bite was cider and bitter back in my day” Yeah, you’re right Dave, same here. Put my error down to the confusion caused by having too much blood in my alcohol-stream! ;-) |
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14 Aug 22 - 03:47 PM (#4150276) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: peteglasgow it's raining in lancaster! |
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14 Aug 22 - 03:56 PM (#4150277) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: peteglasgow i'd never heard of aperol spritz before but apparently it's a pre-dinner cocktail. it's one of my loose rules in life not to drink before noon and not before i've had something to eat (relaxable rule at festivals and before getting on the partick thistle supporters bus) - so a problem. staropramen - now there's a conundrum - i find a cold, large bottle a real treat and love the way the beer goes down my gullet on a hot day, with the reassurance that there is loads left. But i get no such enjoyment from a small bottle. it's probably true - pour moi anyway - that small bouteilles de lagers are only enjoyable as a constant wee pal when on holiday in france avec brie/camembert et les baguettes chaud. |
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14 Aug 22 - 05:13 PM (#4150278) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Stilly River Sage Have tapas or some other small snack with your pre-dinner cocktail. Problem solved! |
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14 Aug 22 - 07:27 PM (#4150284) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Well a coupla things here. First, the word "cocktail" give me the eebiejeebies. I'm fine with "aperitif." That can be a sherry, a glass of dry white or cava or Prosecco, or one of those with something to perk it up a bit. Champagne simply isn't worth your hard-earned dough. Prosecco with ice and a dash of limoncello is a thing of beauty, as is the aforementioned Aperol spritz, for example. Second, the tapas idea is very sound. As a matter of fact, last night, in the heat, we had my home-made salmorejo with the Aperol spritz. It's a classic tapa, originating from Andalucía, that knocks gazpacho into a cocked hat. I can't remember whether I've ever posted my recipe before, but I've spent years perfecting it, and my folks and friends all rave about it (on hot summer nights...). It's so simple to make and you can make it at least a couple of days in advance. All your friends will love you. I'll post it afresh on that recipes thread... Sadly, Monday is a non-drinking day, so I suppose I'll have to try that Budvar that Dave recommended... |
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14 Aug 22 - 08:09 PM (#4150288) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Salmorejo recipe posted! |
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14 Aug 22 - 11:54 PM (#4150292) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Lurcherman Not being a lager drinker…Spingo for me :), I have found cold Beavertown GammaRay to be bleddy Ansum, and you can sometimes find it on draft |
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15 Aug 22 - 08:52 AM (#4150313) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome It was neither shock nor lack of food last night. Got to about 6 and I had to go to bed with flu like symptoms. It's not the plague - Checked that this morning. I suspect and abundance of heat and scottish wine the day before :-D Bit muzzy and achy now but otherwise fine |
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15 Aug 22 - 10:21 AM (#4150318) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: gillymor Donuel mentioned Greasy Dick and it reminded of visiting my late father-in-law in the hospital and asking if I could bring him anything. He replied "a cold Greasy Dick" and I knew what he was talking about because my own father had played ball in Missouri in the 40's and had told me that Greasy Dick was the most popular beer in the area by far, eclipsing Budweiser. Well I told him, the father-in-law, I was sure GD was out of business so he asked for a Bud. He found it disappointing so on the next visit I brought him a Sam Adams lager and he said that's what beer used to taste like. Last evening I had a few Kirin Ichibans, another one of those inoffensive and bland lagers that have become so common, at a cook out and they were pretty good after a hot afternoon. |
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15 Aug 22 - 06:48 PM (#4150356) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Anyone remember when Campari and soda was a thing? May have just been the colour but I recall it being very like mouthwash! |
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15 Aug 22 - 07:06 PM (#4150359) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Bill D Charmion will know why I post a brand you can't get 'over there'. https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/455/1654/ Though I usually drink beer with more 'flavor', that is one lager that stands alone. |
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15 Aug 22 - 07:25 PM (#4150360) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw As it's a non-drinking day, I was forced to try my one test bottle of the Budvar, Dave. I was super-impressed and I will be buying more! |
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15 Aug 22 - 07:28 PM (#4150361) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: MaJoC the Filk > aperitif I so firmly thought that that was French for "dentures" that I thought "aperatif" was the correct spelling. |
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15 Aug 22 - 07:31 PM (#4150362) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion Creemore Springs is as good as ever, Bill. If I’m ever down your way again, I’ll bring you some. Dave, the Campari-soda is still a thing wherever two or three Italians are gathered together, and the secret of a good one is a squeeze of lemon. (I don’t usually bother with the soda, but ice is a must.) |
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15 Aug 22 - 07:33 PM (#4150363) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Nah, Filk. You're thinking of the American term for false teeth by the thousand, Massachusetts... |
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16 Aug 22 - 08:49 AM (#4150393) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: MaJoC the Filk Meanwhile, slightly closer to the thread title .... Mississippi: shortage of cocktails. |
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16 Aug 22 - 05:41 PM (#4150417) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Well, whar a turnip... I feel fully recovered from whatever ailed (maybe aled for this thread?) me. Poor Mrs G were proper poorly yesterday and she tested positive for the plague this morning! Much better now I'm glad to say. Just like a cold she says. Anywho - there was me blaming the whisky for my ills on Sunday when all along it was that fighting off that nasty little tea-total Colin 19. I shall carry on drinking it forever! |
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16 Aug 22 - 05:56 PM (#4150420) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Mrs Steve and I both came down with it on the same day, a few days after we'd had the WI choir in a stuffy, crowded room at our Memory Café. One of our helpers also caught it at the same time. Mine was a nasty cough and a runny nose but without any feeling of illness. Mrs Steve also had the cough but was pretty poorly for several days. We both found that it takes a few weeks to fade away completely, and we were both still testing positive for nearly two weeks. Anecdotes, anecdotes! As Tuesday is another non-drinking day, I've had to continue my research into Staropramen ;-) It's growing on me... |
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17 Aug 22 - 02:41 AM (#4150445) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave Hanson Most lagers are served chilled to death so no-one can tell it's totally flavourless, but that's what young people like these days. Dave H |
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17 Aug 22 - 02:42 AM (#4150446) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome A couple of nice ones in our local Home Bargains but in 330ml cans rather than bottles. Warsteiner from Germany and Leffe (both blonde and brown) from Belgium. At £4.49 for 6 cans it is well worth getting a few in. |
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24 Aug 22 - 02:52 AM (#4150877) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: michaelr American "craft" beer took a wrong turn 20 years ago with the invention of the IPA (although supposedly based on the English tradition), and a whole generation of American beer consumers has been brought up on the fiction "the more hops, the better". This is deplorable. To German me, lager means pilsner. That is what beer should be. Beer can only be refreshing if there is balance between malt and hops, so it goes down smoothly without puckering of the mouth or prolonged aftertaste. The Czechs are brilliant at this - the real Budvar is great - and are followed closely by the Germans, Danes, and Dutch. Giraf was mentioned above - IIRC that was Tuborg's strong beer (I don't know who Albani are) - but I agree that 10% is too strong to guzzle on a hot day. FANFARE: My vote for Best Beer in the World _ and they will tell you so themselves - is Carlsberg's equivalent, Elephant. At 7.2% it won't knock your dick in the dirt, but it's beautifully balanced and never too wimpy. Perfection in a bottle. In the cooler months I drink it at room temperature. |
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24 Aug 22 - 04:50 AM (#4150890) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome Pilsner was so named because it was brewed in Pilsen, in what was once Bohemia. The story is it was the first beer brewed to be clear and bright to show off the Bohemian crystal glass in which it was served. I dunno how true that is but it is what I was told and sounds reasonable! |
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24 Aug 22 - 10:50 AM (#4150908) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Bill D "Best beer in the world" is a concept similar to "Best music" or "best pie". I really like many types, depending on weather, food, time of day.. and my mood. Belgian brews...Trappist ales, Rodenbach,,etc. IPAs, Double Bocks, When I moved from Kansas to the East coast in 1977, I discovered there were beers with flavor!... and in a small brewery in California the seeds of today's craft brewing were being sown. I had a bottle of New Albion Porter from that long-gone brewery right after trying a German Doppelbock... and a thousand beers later, I can't even remember most of them. I saved cans & bottles until downsizing made me toss 'most' of them. I live where I can get stuff from https://www.dogfish.com, as well as dozens of other types.... and Charmion & Edmund showed me that lager can be great. On we go! |
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24 Aug 22 - 11:25 AM (#4150913) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: MaJoC the Filk Many years ago, I came to the reluctant conclusion that beer is not a taste I'm willing to pay to acquire. As far as I'm concerned, the best beer in the world is the one that's still in the bottle. Let there be flames. |
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24 Aug 22 - 02:32 PM (#4150923) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Bonzo3legs Argentine Malbec for me every time!!! |
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25 Aug 22 - 04:10 AM (#4150961) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Rain Dog "Let there be flames." Ah, you are a sambuca drinker then? Each to their own. No point in drinking something that you do not like. |
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25 Aug 22 - 06:05 AM (#4150969) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: MaJoC the Filk > a sambuca drinker An interesting drink, but no: my usual is wine, preferably a Chilean red. If I'm after the Hard Stuff, it'd be a single malt, or failing that Glenblotto (after the first dram, who caresch where it wasch dishctilled?) .... I'm aware it started off life as beer, but it's beer that's died and gone to heaven. |
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26 Aug 22 - 03:22 AM (#4151023) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: BobL No point in drinking something that you do not like except out of politeness, or (for whatever reason) in order to acquire a taste for it. For example I dislike Pernod but after the first three it's not too bad. |
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26 Aug 22 - 05:18 AM (#4151028) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw I tend to avoid most sweet concoctions except for gin and tonics (which must have more gin and less tonic for me) and Aperol spritzes, which cannot be beaten for utter deliciosity, though I can take the odd port or Madeira at Christmas). However, as long as the quality's good (e.g. no lousy beer or cheap bulk wine) I'll drink anything, out of sheer politeness. |
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26 Aug 22 - 08:35 AM (#4151045) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion I find that my drink preference depends strongly on the company I’m in. When I’m alone, which is most often the case since my husband died, I like French and Italian herb-infused drinks like vermouth, Aperol, Campari and Pernod. One is quite enough (thank God). When it’s hot, I’ll have a beer — usually the IPA from the local Black Swan Brewery — on the porch in the late afternoon. If I cook a lamb chop, I’ll crack a bottle of Niagara red and have one — count ‘em, one — glass and stop up the rest with a vacuum cork. A fiddle-playing friend occasionally rides over on her bike, giving me a good reason to open a bottle of riesling. Fortunately, she always texts me to ask if I’m up for company, which gives me time to fetch the wine out of the cellar and put it in the fridge. Dinner parties have pretty well died out since the pandemic, so the boozy evenings over port and cheese don’t happen any more. I like whisky — in fact, I like it a lot — but I don’t drink it on my Tod. Cocktails, ditto — the very idea of a solitary Old Fashioned makes me want to cry. As for lager — returning to the original subject of this thread — that’s what I drink in the beer tent when a beer tent appears in my vicinity. |
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26 Aug 22 - 08:36 AM (#4151046) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Donuel I recall many tales about dogs and beer. I bet they are aiming to please and be polite. |
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26 Aug 22 - 11:58 AM (#4151064) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion You may be right about dogs, Don, but I would not rule out actual inclination. Years ago, I had a cat who adored yeasty flavours. She could not be left alone with a fresh loaf of bread, and she would climb your arm at breakfast to seize the toast from your hand. She also drank beer — the only cat I’ve ever encountered who would tolerate the taste of alcohol. Dogs are far more omnivorous than cats. |
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27 Aug 22 - 07:38 AM (#4151144) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion's brother Andrew Which cat was that, Charmion? |
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27 Aug 22 - 01:49 PM (#4151181) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion Black Maria. |
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28 Aug 22 - 06:12 AM (#4151243) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw A couple of weeks ago I bought a 12-pack of Staropramen 330ml bottles. Hidden inside the cardboard box was a code. I emailed the code to the company, and I am now the proud owner of a freebie Staropramen pint tankard. Excellent! |
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28 Aug 22 - 09:38 AM (#4151252) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Neil D Red Stripe from Jamaica is a fine full-flavored lager. Also, I wouldn't think of having a Mexican dinner without washing it down with a pint of Dos Equis, much better than Corona. |
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28 Aug 22 - 09:47 AM (#4151253) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion's brother Andrew Och, a cute wee beastie. |
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28 Aug 22 - 10:04 AM (#4151256) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Stilly River Sage Refer above to my notes about Modela Negra. I met this one when dining in Mexico. |
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29 Aug 22 - 03:44 PM (#4151402) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion A pint tankard! How retro! Was it actually made to hold 20 fluid ounces Imperial, or is it a cross-dressed half-litre mug? Here in Canada, with our mixture of three measuring systems, a “pint” of beer can be anything from a US 12-ounce bottle or domestic 355-ml can to a British 20-oz sleeve or a European half-litre. When ordering, one asks the size of the “pint” offered. It’s tiresome for the budget-minded, who must do complicated arithmetic to arrive at a best-value decision. I just order what I like and damn the price. I’m driving, so I’m having only one, anyway! |
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29 Aug 22 - 05:10 PM (#4151412) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw A pint this end is 568ml. We savvy Brits do not wish to see a huge frothy head on a "pint" that means we're getting short measure. "Top that up, please" is an extremely common request in pubs that invariably gets a positive response. Guinness is a frequent UK culprit, though in Ireland they know exactly how to serve it (you might have to wait...) |
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30 Aug 22 - 02:14 AM (#4151436) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Dave the Gnome A common question at a bar serving short pints was "Can you get a double whisky in that?". When the barman answered "yes" you just say "well, fill it up with beer then" :-D |
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30 Aug 22 - 05:02 PM (#4151533) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Oi, Dave, in my day a pint with a whisky in it was known as a "five bob one." Bejaysus, that dates me... |
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30 Aug 22 - 05:27 PM (#4151539) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Steve Shaw Charmion, my decorated Staropramen tankard has the word "pint" embossed on it (I had to search). So that means it should hold a UK pint, which is 568 ml. We Brits will tolerate a half-inch head at the very most in an exact-pint glass. Bejaysus, I remember supping many a pint of Thwaites Great Northern Bitter at the Ram's Head on Radcliffe Road in Bury. There was so much head on the beer that they served it in oversized pint glasses. It didn't seem right, but hey ho, I could put up wi' it. As you do... |
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30 Aug 22 - 09:08 PM (#4151554) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Donuel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPPtrqvHGEg |
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31 Aug 22 - 03:01 AM (#4151565) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: BobL Once upon a business trip north of Watford Gap, my colleague and I stopped for refreshment. He asked, with apologetic politeness, if he might (as a heathen Southerner) have his beer served without the use of a sparkler. "Certainly Sir" said the landlord, "but I'll have to go and find a regular pint glass - the normal ones are oversized." Incidentally one of my collection of tankards holds 25 fluid oz - we call it the "Yorkshire Pint" one. |
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31 Aug 22 - 09:49 AM (#4151591) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Donuel Ancient Egyptian Great Pyramid workers were paid in beer and bread. Elephants like beer but can get drunk by just eating too many apples. Dogs seem to like it but a cat who drinks beer is unique, but I've known some who love avocados. |
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31 Aug 22 - 10:15 AM (#4151595) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: gillymor I had a black lab who liked beer and I'd pour one in his bowl several times a week. He favored Coors, back when it was still Coors, and he'd be all over you whenever he heard a pop top crack open. That dog lived a long happy life, remained fit and was an avid swimmer and hiker up until his last year. |
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31 Aug 22 - 03:21 PM (#4151622) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Charmion I’m expecting visitors tomorrow, so I’ll wheel round by the boozetería for a bottle of Prosecco. They’ll enjoy an Aperol spritz after a long day on the 401 highway. So will I, and I’m not going anywhere! |
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31 Aug 22 - 04:59 PM (#4151631) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Donuel PTSD from the 401 is not uncommon. |
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31 Aug 22 - 07:38 PM (#4151637) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: Donuel I think that I shall never hear A poem lovelier than beer. The stuff that Joe's Bar has on tap, With golden base and snowy cap. The stuff that I can drink all day Until my mem'ry melts away. Poems are made by fools, I fear But only Schlitz can make a beer. |
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01 Sep 22 - 03:51 AM (#4151664) Subject: RE: BS: Lager From: BobL A lass by the name of Ann Heuser Said that nothing at all could surprise her, Till a fellow called Hans Found a Schlitz in her pants, And now she is sadder Budweiser. |
