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Poverty Knock in Halifax film

05 Mar 23 - 11:45 AM (#4166949)
Subject: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: GUEST,Len Kennington

Just been watching a very short film on Halifax in the late 60s. no score, but the last two minute feature a very good unaccompanied rendition of "Poverty Knock" Anyone recognise the folk-singer? (NB probably only plays in the UK - sorry)      
https://player.bfi.org.uk/free/film/watch-this-town-1969-online


05 Mar 23 - 12:07 PM (#4166950)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Dave the Gnome

Looks good. I shall watch it all when I get chance. In the interim, thre credits at the end say "With the help of Elizabeth Evans, John Fox, Paul Hughes, John Jones and the people of Halifax"

Any of those names ring a bell?


05 Mar 23 - 03:28 PM (#4166959)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: GUEST,R J M

Brian Dewhurst?


07 Mar 23 - 01:30 PM (#4167122)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Dave the Gnome

He's a Lancashire lad though. I would have thought someone more local to Halifax.


10 Mar 23 - 05:31 PM (#4167294)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: GUEST,R J M

John Foxx born in Chorley, Lancashire, England. His father was a coal miner and pugilist, his mother a millworker. He attended St Mary's Primary and St Augustine's Secondary schools.[4] During his youth in the 1960s he embraced the lifestyle of a mod and a hippy.[5] He experimented with tape recorders and synthesisers while on a scholarship at the Royal College of Art in London.

HHis first band called Woolly Fish formed circa 1967 whilst at art college in Preston.

Prior to 1973 he was singing and playing a 12-string guitar and occasionally supported Stack Waddy in Manchester, from which he later moved to London in order to escape what he saw as a lack of musical stimulus


11 Mar 23 - 03:48 AM (#4167335)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: GUEST,R J M

source above was wiki
john foxx (born Dennis Leigh; 26 September 1948) could this be john fox mentioned in credits


16 Mar 23 - 03:35 PM (#4167748)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Dave the Gnome

I would have thought if was the "xx" one he would have made sure that it was spelled right in the credits but you never know.

Out of interest, the song in question was collected from Tom Sykes Daniel, a weaver from Batley, Yorkshire. In the film the line "I know I can guttle, when I hear my shuttle go poverty, poverty, knock." Is sung incorrectly. Whether that helps or hinders, I have no idea!


16 Mar 23 - 06:30 PM (#4167759)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: GUEST,RJM

I remember Tommy Daniels, he used to go to Mick Haywoods club in Batley.


17 Mar 23 - 06:07 AM (#4167788)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Dave the Gnome

I was from t'other side o th'ills so didn't get to Yorkshire much. I remember the name Mick Haywood though. Did he have something to do with Whitby?


17 Mar 23 - 08:20 AM (#4167799)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: r.padgett

Mick and Anjie are still in Whitby and Mick is still singing ~O and so is Wendy Price with family close by ~ Bill and Wendy knew Tommy very well

Ray


17 Mar 23 - 08:42 AM (#4167803)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Dave the Gnome

Ahhhh - Thanks. I know I knew him from somewhere :-)


04 Apr 23 - 11:41 PM (#4169276)
Subject: RE: Poverty Knock in Halifax film
From: Hagman

The Tom Daniel original recording from 1965 is available here as part of a wonderful 2-CD set. There is a substantial accompanying book available as well. (And Tom's version is NOT the one in the film, BTW....)