29 Nov 24 - 02:38 AM (#4212510) Subject: BS: irish general election From: The Sandman I predict a coalition with Fianna Fail having the most sets |
29 Nov 24 - 10:20 AM (#4212526) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: Nigel Parsons 'Most sets' of what? |
29 Nov 24 - 10:51 AM (#4212529) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: Rain Dog Badgers? |
29 Nov 24 - 05:00 PM (#4212549) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: The Sandman seats, a typo |
30 Nov 24 - 04:41 AM (#4212557) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: Thompson Looks that way. Independents got a huge boost, Labour a little one; Greens (who were superb in power, leading to a leap forward in climate moderation) were punished by the voters for the actions of their constantly sniping-at-them coalition partners; Social Democrats (left-wing, steady) got a boost too. Sinn Fein got a very substantial boost with the most No 1 votes of any party, but they don't tend to be transfer-friendly, which in Ireland's Proportional Representation, Single Transferable Vote system means that they could sink back. |
30 Nov 24 - 05:17 AM (#4212559) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: The Sandman A small fact , but one which i have benefited from is the increase of bus transport, i live in a rural area and am old and get free transport, and i think i have the greens to thank for that |
01 Dec 24 - 03:43 AM (#4212614) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: The Sandman it looks like FF FG With Labour or social democrats |
01 Dec 24 - 06:03 PM (#4212650) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: Thompson If anyone's rushing to get into bed with Fianna Fail and Fine Gael, which is much like getting into bed with Scheherazade's husband. |
01 Dec 24 - 06:40 PM (#4212654) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: The Sandman the daughter of the kingdom's vizier and the elder sister of Dunyazad. Against her father's wishes, she marries King Shahryar, who has vowed that he will execute a new bride every morning. For 1,001 nights, Scheherazade tells her husband a story, stopping at dawn with a cliffhanger. |
01 Dec 24 - 07:12 PM (#4212655) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: Thompson Unless it's a storytelling member of the coalition, Shahryar Gael and Shahryar Fail will chop their heads off before morning. |
02 Dec 24 - 03:55 AM (#4212668) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: Thompson Grammar went awry there: they (the party that crept into bed with FF/FG), would want to be Scheherazade-level storytellers to escape the fate of other parties that have gone into coalition with FF/FG, like the PDs (this corporatist party has ceased to be), Labour (the party decimated after they took the fall for the vicious cuts forced by the IMF and enacted by them with some enthusiasm) and the Greens (this week's electoral wipeout, though there's still a strong base in local politics and strong grassroots support). |
03 Dec 24 - 03:18 AM (#4212745) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: The Sandman Thompson what is the difference between labour and the social democrats, mmy guess is the SDS will go in with FFand FG a long term error |
03 Dec 24 - 05:54 AM (#4212751) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: Thompson The difference is that the Social Democrats are a left-wing party. Labour has been tainted by going very, very sleek and middle-class during the Celtic Tiger; then on the collapse of the economy, a Labour minister had the post of Social Welfare and made savage cuts affecting the poor, while people like bankers and developers who had bankrupted the country were sympathetically supported. The same Labour admin put notices on every Social Welfare page encouraging people to inform on their neighbours if they suspected them of "defrauding" the State by claiming social welfare payments they weren't entitled to - of course there was a flood of people grassing up single mothers, etc; most of these investigations came up with nothing - but Labour became known as the rat-'em-up party. This distrust has continued among those who would have been the main voting bloc for what originated as James Connolly's party. The distrust has begun to ease, or rather, a couple of the current Labour TDs are well liked, but I don't think they'd be thought of as a party that represents the less well off, even now. |
03 Dec 24 - 07:44 AM (#4212764) Subject: RE: BS: irish general election From: The Sandman I do remember pat rabbitte behaving badly, but thanks for reminding me |