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25 Jan 25 - 07:11 PM (#4215958) Subject: Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Steve Shaw https://youtu.be/vZ7oYCx6tBw?si=6QfmIFI-icjFURGd It's Burns Day and he deserves a mention! So there's my favourite Burns song in my favourite version of it. As Billy Connolly might have said, that'll do me! My glass of Talisker Ten is raised... |
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25 Jan 25 - 07:22 PM (#4215960) Subject: RE: Tune Add: Robbie Burns From: GUEST,Steve Shaw By the way, 35 years ago today here in Cornwall we had the Burns Day Storm. I got a call from my kids' primary school, ten miles away, that their school roof had blown off and that my two kids needed rescuing. First, I had to remove a large chunk of my school's music room roof from the roof of my car. Then, on my drive back to Bude, the wind ripped up my car bonnet and I was suddenly blinded. I did get to their school in the end, and when we got home I found that a chunk of my roof had blown off! Ah, good times, good times. Cheers, Robbie! |
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26 Jan 25 - 05:38 AM (#4215973) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: David C. Carter Way back I worked a season in a holliday camp in Ayr.One day we went into Alloway to visit Burns Cottage;a subhurb of Ayr. I smacked my forehead on the top of the door frame,I'm 1'85,Burns wasn't. I visited the site of Culloden and Bannockburn also whilst working in that beautiful country. |
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26 Jan 25 - 07:32 AM (#4215980) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: GUEST,Steve Shaw I've been to Burns' cottage too. Sadly, as my age was still in single numbers at the time I didn't really appreciate the occasion... |
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26 Jan 25 - 09:02 AM (#4215983) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: GUEST,keberoxu Best wishes on the day. |
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26 Jan 25 - 09:27 AM (#4215990) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Tattie Bogle Thanks for the link, Steve: my number one Burns song favourite, and I like Dick's version, though I have several friends who also do it very well (even do it myself!) I believe Dick takes the credit for popularising the tune he sings it to: there were a couple of other tunes used before that one, but neither of them as nice or voice-friendly, having rather wide ranges of pitch! Always amazed that Burns wrote the poem when he was only 16 or 17. Had spent the afternoon with friends, practising our wee set for our Folk Club Burns Night on Tuesday coming: the results of our labours may eventually appear on YouTube after the grand premiere. My husband was out at one of those all-male Burns suppers last night, while I had my own Burns extravaganza on TV - started with BBC Scotland from 8.30. switching to BBC 4 at 10.30. The 8.30. Burns Night programme is repeated on BBC 1 this afternoon at 4.35. Bit of a curate's egg - good in parts! Some songs taken too fast, but Elaine C Smith's recitation of Tam o Shanter was excellent. Never heard of quite a few of the performers. The best programme of the night IMHO was the repeat of the "Robert Burns: the People's Poet" - a programme made in 2009 with Andrew O'Hagan as presenter - a very full biography on BBC 4, lasting an hour and a half until 1 am, but I managed to stay awake. Hubby arrived back in just as it was finishing, with more tales to tell of the night's proceedings. |
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26 Jan 25 - 09:37 AM (#4215991) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: GUEST,Steve Shaw Cheers for that. I relied on another kind soul to complete the link, I must confess (I know not who). |
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26 Jan 25 - 09:40 AM (#4215995) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Dave the Gnome We had visitirs yesterday evening so I couldn't do my usual Haggis, neeps and tatties for tea. I did have a couple of haggis slices for breakfast fried with some carrot and swede :-) |
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26 Jan 25 - 10:15 AM (#4215999) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Johnny J I see Alistair Heather was the presenter. How unfortunate... |
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26 Jan 25 - 10:51 AM (#4216001) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: GeoffLawes Link to post COMPLETE SONGS OF ROBERT BURNS in Mudcat Thread Any January Songs? /mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=169254&messages=146#burnssongs:~:text=Subject%3A%20RE%3A%20Any%20January%20Songs%3F%0AFro |
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27 Jan 25 - 03:39 AM (#4216039) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Johnny J Unfortunately(Some of you make think it’s a good thing), Robert Burns can mean all things to all people. I remember going to some very staid Burns Suppers when I was young which I didn’t enjoy. It was only after becoming more immersed in folk and traditional music that I began to appreciate much of his work. It just just seemed more down to earth and natural. Of course, the culture and work of Burns isn’t necessarily ours to claim either and he, himself, moved in many different circles including the “high society” of the day. However, it seemed a shame that only singers and musicians from other areas of music were chosen for the BBC programme. Good as they are in their own right, I’d rather have listened to some of our very own traditional singers. Likewise, there could have been a few instrumental pieces from some of our excellent musicians even although the orchestra was enjoyable in its own way. I’d list a few examples but there are so many possibilities and you’ll probably know them all anyway. |
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27 Jan 25 - 03:52 AM (#4216040) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: The Sandman JOHnNY J, Who is Alistair Heather?and why do you think he is unfortunate. |
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27 Jan 25 - 04:14 AM (#4216042) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Johnny J He is best known for speaking with a "faux" Scottish accent which is very annoying. His aim is to promote and preserve the Scots language but it isn't natural. Just a hotch potch of different dialects and nonsense. |
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27 Jan 25 - 04:50 AM (#4216043) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: The Sandman I understand MacColl made an album of Burns songs, Ihavent heard them so it would not be fair to make a comment, has anyone else heard the album |
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27 Jan 25 - 06:02 AM (#4216046) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: GUEST,Lang Johnnie Mor Haven't heard it myself, but that would be "Songs Of Robert Burns" Sung by Ewan MacColl" : Folkways Records FW 8758, if that helps. I would have preferred hearing MacColl sing Burns to anyone I heard on that programme on Saturday night. Katie the piper was the star for me - a true inspiration to anyone. And I liked the police inspector's contribution too. Alistair Heather may mean well, but as far as I'm concerned, what he is required to do on these programmes is a national embarrassment. Most likely the programme's producers to blame rather than him. I have no animosity towards him personally. |
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27 Jan 25 - 07:20 AM (#4216049) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Sol IMO, there's nobody who can touch Dick Gaughan's rendition of "Westlin Winds". Dougie Maclean does a great job on several Burns songs, notably "Green Grow The Rashes-O" & "Banks & Braes". Some more of Dougie's Burns songs can be found on his excellent 'Tribute' album. Here -->> Tribute |
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27 Jan 25 - 11:46 AM (#4216059) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Tattie Bogle Dougie was actually doing another of his live-streamed concerts late afternoon on Saturday, on the theme of Burns: to get a "ticket" you had to apply through his website, then use some sort of electronic device to live-stream it. Just one of the HUNDREDS of concerts he has put out in this way since the start of lockdown - most of them free, but a few paid-for ones. I am in awe! But I digress slightly. Alistair Heather - yes, he's the guy who has been doing the Scots/English announcing on the annual Scottish Trad Award shows, along with Mary-Ann Kennedy who does the Gaelic bit. I agree with Johnny J that his Scots pronunciation jars a bit, and rattles a few cages. And the "Burns Night" programme shown on BBC Scotland and repeated on BBC 1 showed up how pop/rock singers do not necessarily do Burns songs well. But three cheers for Katie the piper! Could have heard more of her! |
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28 Jan 25 - 07:20 AM (#4216097) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Felipa Johnny J, presumably Burns was a native speaker of Ayrshire Scots dialect, but his collected poetry is also a hodgepodge of Scots/English dialects http://www.robertburns.org.uk/scots_tongue.htm |
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28 Jan 25 - 08:21 AM (#4216102) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: The Sandman Burns like Shakespeare was a supporter of the Establishment, a Tax Collector, yes he wrote beautiful prose,but did he challenge the status quo? Burns fathered a number of illegitimate children. In 18th-century Scotland, a relationship with him could be truly ruinous. Burns' philandering earned him a bad reputation among many of his contemporaries. At one point, he tried to flee to Jamaica. |
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28 Jan 25 - 09:11 AM (#4216107) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: GUEST,Steve Shaw Well the world is full of imperfect human beings and I wouldn't like to place Burns on any kind of spectrum thereof. Picasso was a notorious philanderer, Mozart loved poo-poo jokes and lots of smacky-botty, Bach spent time in jail and Beethoven lived in squalor and indulged in repressive behaviour towards his nephew. Being less than perfect meself, I can live with a' that (as Robbie might have said but probably didn't). I draw the line at artists who showed overt racism or antisemitism such as Wagner (a detestable antisemite) or Karajan (card-carrying Nazi), etc., and avoid their art. It's all just a very personal thing. |
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28 Jan 25 - 09:55 AM (#4216108) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: The Sandman Burns most well known effort AULD LANG SYNE, Is a backward looking bit of sentimental rose tinted look at his past. compare it to christmas 1924 Thomas Hardy “Peace upon earth!" was said. We sing it, And pay a million priests to bring it. After two thousand years of mass We've got as far as poison-gas. |
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28 Jan 25 - 11:32 AM (#4216120) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: The Sandman https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVM7w6Jst8w Burns, composed 17 95 |
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28 Jan 25 - 11:38 AM (#4216121) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: The Sandman Correction composed 1785 |
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29 Jan 25 - 03:57 AM (#4216172) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: The Sandman his poem about the mouse, is imo, excellent |
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29 Jan 25 - 07:32 AM (#4216179) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Vic Smith It is more of a Burns Season than a Burns Day for our band. The last one for this year will be this Saturday (1st February) and one again I will be playing for and calling the dances and be delivering the Address To The Haggis - Fair fa’ your honest, sonsie face, Great Chieftain o’ the Puddin-race! |
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29 Jan 25 - 08:06 AM (#4216183) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Vic Smith Dick is not comparing like for like in his post of 28 Jan 25 - 09:55 AM. In the full version of Auld Lang Syne Burns writes about two old pals meeting up after decades apart and sets it to an appropiately gentle tune; not the anthemic melody that it is sung to today. Burns had never suffered anthing like the horrors of the first World War that was then fresh in the minds of all the readers that Hardy was writing for in 1924. |
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29 Jan 25 - 10:40 AM (#4216191) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: The Sandman Fair enough, Vic |
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29 Jan 25 - 07:35 PM (#4216229) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Tattie Bogle Another excellent evening at our local folk club last night, celebrating the bard in song, music and recitations. So, not a formal Burns supper with all the speeches, but a great night of entertainment, ably presented by a very knowledgeable local Burns scholar, with explanatory notes on all the poems /songs chosen by the performers who are mainly club members. Had already been playing at an afternoon performance elsewhere in Edinburgh city centre,, also of mixed songs and tunes, with a lot of Burns included, so quite a long day! |
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30 Jan 25 - 03:23 AM (#4216243) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: The Sandman Ae Fond Kiss is a beautiful song, likewise Ae Waukin O |
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30 Jan 25 - 04:18 PM (#4216282) Subject: RE: Robbie Burns Day - 25 January From: Tattie Bogle Both lovely songs though it's Ay Waukin O. Ae = one, Ay = forever, Aye = yes! |