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16 May 25 - 09:18 AM (#4222624) Subject: Eurovision 2025 From: Dave the Gnome Not until tomorrow but may as well start the speculation now :-D UK's entry is pretty good so it has no chance. I never watch the semis so I have not seen any others Remember it is a SONG contest so music and performance only please Fat chance... :-D |
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16 May 25 - 11:28 AM (#4222634) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Backwoodsman They can at least sing! |
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16 May 25 - 02:23 PM (#4222639) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: GUEST,Rossey Israel's ballad is absolutely beautiful.. in an old style chanteuse way. Packed with melody, meaning and fine vocal talent. The politics and actions of certain countries may be horrific but a song can be stunning. Part of me does question the value of a song contest now that, much to my own horror, AI can come up with equally melodic efforts and no-one would know the difference. |
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16 May 25 - 03:02 PM (#4222643) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: GUEST The tune reminded me a lot of several Jacques Brel songs, perhaps too much. |
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16 May 25 - 03:48 PM (#4222651) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: GUEST,Rossey Guest you made a good comparison. Israel's entry does have a Brel by numbers type melody, though still touching. That is the problem, now everything is derivative, which is why philosophically it is now so weird that humans are in competition with AI to write songs that in effect all derive from other songs. |
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16 May 25 - 03:58 PM (#4222652) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: GUEST,Peter Laban Sorry, that was me above. I have grown up with Brel's music in the environment and it was my first association, hearing the Israeli entry. |
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17 May 25 - 03:11 PM (#4222726) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Dave the Gnome ...and we're off! |
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17 May 25 - 03:40 PM (#4222729) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Dave the Gnome Not impressed with the Israeli entry but, yes, I can see what you mean about the Brell influence |
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17 May 25 - 05:23 PM (#4222738) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: GUEST,Rossey France's entry was even more Brel! UK's was just crud.. we lost the art of writing a good entry. |
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17 May 25 - 05:47 PM (#4222739) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Dave the Gnome Very disappointing. Nothing mad! Sweden was close but didn't hit the insanity of some previous entries. :-D |
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17 May 25 - 07:11 PM (#4222743) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: GUEST,Rossey Austria, yet another singer who sounds like a castrati singing a weird song, where I can't locate a decent melody. What is going on? Nemo was bad enough. Israel nearly made it, so I wasn't too far off. I thought Tiny Tim was a bad memory.. these singers are worse. |
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18 May 25 - 03:43 AM (#4222767) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Dave the Gnome I dunno, Rossey. I can honestly say that none of the entries have stuck in my head this morning either for quality or quirkiness. I seem to remember that I quite enjoyed the entries from Greece and Finland but cannot recall the songs! |
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18 May 25 - 04:28 AM (#4222769) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Acorn4 Come back, "Boom Bang a Bang" = all is forgiven. |
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18 May 25 - 05:08 AM (#4222771) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Tattie Bogle I didn’t switch on until about 9.30., halfway through Germany’s entry. A couple of minutes of violently flashing lights was enough for me to change channels to BBC Scotland for an interesting documentary on the subject of Highland Games - yes, really! I only went back to it in the later stages of the results coming in, and it was a bit of a cliff-hanger! And, oh dear, nul audience points for our UK girls….. Not that impressed with the winning song: terrified he was going to smash the trophy! |
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18 May 25 - 06:07 AM (#4222776) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Fred Another stunning UK performance :/ |
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18 May 25 - 09:35 AM (#4222784) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Dave the Gnome Just looked it up and it wasn't Finland I liked, it was Iceland. Nice fusion of folky fiddles and rap I thought. Still, it came 25th out of 26 so what do I know? :-D |
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19 May 25 - 04:11 AM (#4222831) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Acorn4 Is it possible some bots got in on the act for the voting? |
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19 May 25 - 01:01 PM (#4222863) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: GUEST zzzzzzzzz |
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20 May 25 - 02:55 AM (#4222888) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Backwoodsman The ‘Remember Monday’ girls work in musical theatre, and it showed (pun intended) in the construction and performance of ‘What The Hell Just Happened’ - lyrically and musically complicated and ‘busy’, all those changes of speed and rhythm, it would have been a great number in a West-End/Broadway show, and it grows on you after several hearings, but it was way, way too cluttered and confusing for a hear-it-once-only Eurovision audience. The girls are lovely, they gave a highly-professional performance, and they can SING! Their harmonies were spot on every time (not something you can say about most Eurovision vocal groups). But, as I said to Mrs. B. when we first heard the song several weeks ago, “What the hell…?”. Sam Ryder had it spot on in 2022 and, but for a small matter of Russia invading Ukraine, and with the resulting public sympathy-vote, he would have walked away with the win. It’s a shame the UK ESC team don’t seem to have learned from that. The following two years’ entries were absolutely appalling and neither were worth more than ‘nul points’. This year’s entry was much better, but still not ‘just right’. All IMHO of course, and YMMV. |
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20 May 25 - 04:56 AM (#4222892) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: The Sandman I did not see it. I would rather watch old episodes of Dads Army, but I hope you all enjoyed it, each to their own |
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20 May 25 - 05:28 AM (#4222895) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: GUEST,Rossey I'd still like to know why the Castrati sound has become a thing? A wussy singer with no balls, and no decent song - yet it won. Eurovision used to be about the craft of songwriting, where they would present awards to both the writers, and the winning act in front of the cameras before the reprise. Not anymore. They'd be as well using AI. On to next year. |
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20 May 25 - 07:10 AM (#4222902) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Johnny J The last good UK entry ;-)) https://youtu.be/gQSncOYk-Cs |
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20 May 25 - 09:36 AM (#4222910) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: MaJoC the Filk > I'd still like to know why the Castrati sound has > become a thing? Unusuality? ABBA and Lordy made good use of the surprise factor in previous years, as did Ian Anderson in using a 5/4 time signature when he wrote "Living in the Past". > They'd be as well using AI. Why use Artificial Incompetence when the natural version has been so profitably prolific :-( ? |
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20 May 25 - 02:31 PM (#4222930) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Dave the Gnome I liked "Puppet on a String", Johnny J. You may say that was because I fancied Sandy Shaw but I fancied Lulu more and hated "Boom bang a bang" :-D |
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20 May 25 - 06:01 PM (#4222942) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Johnny J I fancied Mary Hopkin even more but wasn't that keen on her song either. She was beaten by Dana who looked quite cute back then too. |
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20 May 25 - 07:58 PM (#4222950) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: GUEST,Rossey Mary absolutely hated knock knock, and hated Eurovision because of it. Having to smile through a song she loathed with a passion. She was promised credible songs for viewers to choose from and agreed to take part on that basis. In the end Mary got a piece of inane faff. It's a subject that still rankles with her. The friends of Dorothy now own Eurovision and have long since turned it into a campfest joke. Two years running overtly gay acts with castrati type voices have won it. The song is now mostly incidental to the act and staging, and the songwriters are no longer of any importance in the ethos of the competition. |
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21 May 25 - 03:40 AM (#4222959) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Dave the Gnome Ooooh, I had forgotten Mary and Dana. Thanks for the reminder :-) |
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23 May 25 - 04:22 AM (#4223073) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Acorn4 The winning entry this year I would class as a vocal exercise rather than a song. |
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23 May 25 - 12:05 PM (#4223090) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Backwoodsman Are you there Fred? Check your PMs please… |
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23 May 25 - 12:28 PM (#4223091) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Backwoodsman Oops! Sorry Fred, wrong thread! |
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03 Jun 25 - 02:48 PM (#4223701) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Tattie Bogle You’ve forgotten Gigliola Cinquetti! Winner for Italy in 1964 when I was still at school! We all instantly became fluent in Italian! (Well we were learning Latin!) Non ho l’Eta - fabulous song. She later came second to ABBA who won with Waterloo. |
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04 Jun 25 - 06:27 AM (#4223727) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Fred BWM - Arr boy, what's to do? :-D Fred |
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04 Jun 25 - 06:46 AM (#4223728) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Fred I didn't check this thread cos not a Eurovision fan, BWM, but I did check my PMs...eventually. Hope I answered your query. Fred |
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04 Jun 25 - 02:21 PM (#4223750) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: Backwoodsman Yep, we're good Fred! |
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04 Jun 25 - 08:15 PM (#4223766) Subject: RE: Eurovision 2025 From: GUEST,Steve Shaw Gigliola Cinquetti - ah yes! The ideal girl singer for a romantically-susceptible thirteen-year-old lad, as was! I didn't learn Italian as a result but I still like to think that I'm romantically susceptible! She's still going strong, by the way! |