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A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)

22 May 25 - 10:39 AM (#4223034)
Subject: A Yorkshire Songster new book available
From: Nick Dow

Yorkshire has been noted as a ‘singing’ county and this has been reflected in the excellent musical collections published by Frank Kidson. The post war song collections, however, have not been so well represented.

In this new book Steve Gardham has selected over a hundred folk songs, some previously published and others from out-of-print and scarce collections. The main sources are the collections of Mary and Nigel Hudleston, Steve Gardham and Ruairidh Greig.

Musical notation has been provided by Cohen Braithwaite-Kilcoyne and comprehensive notes have been supplied by Steve Gardham and Nick Dow.

A Yorkshire Songster now takes its rightful place alongside the best musical anthologies.

https://francisboutle.co.uk/products/a-yorkshire-songster/


22 May 25 - 01:38 PM (#4223044)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available
From: The Sandman

Good luck with the book.


22 May 25 - 04:32 PM (#4223055)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available
From: Steve Gardham

Thanks, Dick.


23 May 25 - 02:44 AM (#4223065)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available
From: r.padgett

I have put it on fb

Ray


23 May 25 - 04:26 PM (#4223099)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available
From: Steve Gardham

And of course Mr Ray Padgett gets several mentions.


24 May 25 - 07:45 AM (#4223120)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available
From: GUEST,Steve Shaw

Aye, lad, but does it cost owt? ;-)

I'll get me coat...


24 May 25 - 07:55 AM (#4223121)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available
From: r.padgett

Just search for Yorkshire Songster

Ray


24 May 25 - 11:13 AM (#4223127)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available
From: Nick Dow

The books are £15-00 I am waiting for the MP3 files from Cohen and then I will gladly include the tunes for those who do not read music.


26 May 25 - 12:36 PM (#4223229)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: GUEST,BlackAcornUK

Looks great, will definitely be placing my order


27 May 25 - 07:41 AM (#4223277)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Nick ~ "include the tunes" where and how please?

Ray


27 May 25 - 02:15 PM (#4223298)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

When you buy the book Email or PM me and I'll send them by WeTransfer. This goes for every book in the Marrowbones series and will cost you nowt. I just want people to access the material easily. I'm still waiting for Cohen to send the MP3's for Yorkshire Songster though.


28 May 25 - 03:32 AM (#4223342)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

I have ordered the YS already

Ray


28 May 25 - 10:04 AM (#4223366)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

I'll get onto it Ray.


28 May 25 - 05:26 PM (#4223402)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

A listing of song titles ... may prompt, or prime the pump.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

I just donated 5 foot self space of old, classic fishing books to an institution ... to make room more music.


29 May 25 - 08:54 AM (#4223429)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

It will be about 3 weeks. Cohen is away.


29 May 25 - 09:05 AM (#4223430)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Not in a rush Nick

Ray


29 May 25 - 01:30 PM (#4223447)
Subject: Index: A Yorkshire Songster (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Contents
   5   
   7   
Preface by Dave Burland
Introduction by Nick Dow
SONGS
12   An Acre of Land
13   The Artillery Alphabet
14   As Tommy Was Walking (Tommy and the Apples)
15   The Barley Corn (The Barley Mow)
16   The Barnburgh Tup (The Derby Ram)
18   The Battle of Trafalgar (Nelson’s Monument)
19   The Bilsdale Hunt Song
21   Bold Rennie (Three Jolly Huntsmen)
22   The Bonny Hawthorn
23   The Bonny Yorkshire Lass (My Pretty Yorkshire Lass)
25   Buttercups (Down in the fields where the buttercups all grow )
26   Castle Hill Anthem (Pleasant and Delightful)
27   The Cat, the Mouse and the Cask of Ale
29   The Christmas Goose
31   The Cliffs of Old Whitby
32   Collier Lads (The Soldier Laddie)
33   The Country Carrier
34   The Country Gawby
36   A country life for me
38   The Cropper Lads
39   The Cropton Murders
40   The Death of Bill Brown
42   Despised for Being Poor
43   Dick Turpin’s Ride to York
45   Died for Love
46   The Duke of Buckingham’s Hunting Song (The Noble Foxhunting)
48   The Farmer of Cheshire’s Daughter
50   The Farmyard Song
51   Father’s Advice
53   A fine old lady was my grandma (My grandma’s advice)
54   Forty Miles
55   Foster’s Mill
56   Fylingdales Hunt Song
58   The Gallant Hussar
60   Gather all round
61   Gode rest ye merry, gentlemen
62   Gossip John (Gossip Joan)
63   The Grey Goose and Gander (The Goose and the Gander)
64   Hear the nightingales sing (The Bold Grenadier)
65   Hedon Road Gaol
66   Here we come a-wassailing
67   The Herring’s Head (The Herring Song)
69   The Holmfirth Anthem (Through the Groves)
70   I wish I was single again
71   I’ve fun a bod’s nest
72   The Indian Lass
74   Jolly Country Lads Are We (Old Joe Braddleum)
75   The Jolly Ploughboy
77   The Jolly Waggoner
78   The Keys of Heaven
79   King Henry was King James’ son (The White Cockade)
80   The Lady of Robin Hood’s Bay (Mary Wright)
82   The Lily-White Hand
84   The Little Ball of Yarn (The Ball of Yarn)
85   Lord Bateman
88   The Lyke Wake Dirge
90   MacGregor John and John MacGregor (Bohunkus and Josephus)
91   Marrow Bones
93   Master Smith says to John
95   The Maypole Song
97   Merry Mountain Child
99   A Milking Can (Mother, will you buy me a milking can?)
100   Mutton Pie
102   My Beautiful Muff (The Beautiful Muff)
104   My father died (The Foolish Boy)
105   My Little Fiddle (My thing is my own)
107   No, my love, not I
108   The Nobleman’s Lady (The Alderman’s Lady)
109   The Oak and the Ash (Rosemary Lane)
111   Old Adam Was a Gentleman
113   Old Grimy
115   Old Johnny Walker
116   The Old Man from Lea
117   The Old Mare
119   Old Matha Gummersal
120   The Old Sow (The Dead Pig)
121   Pace-Egging Song
122   The Pear Tree
124   Poor Old Horse
125   Poverty Knocks
127   Pretty Nancy of Yarmouth (Nancy of Yarmouth)
128   The Pride of the Pack
130   Rumpsy-Bumpsy-Ay (Rumpsy Bumpsy)
132   The Sandstone Girl
134   The Saucy Sailor
135   The Sheffield Apprentice
137   Sheffield Park
138   The Sheffield Ship Canal
139   Six Jolly Miners
140   The Soldier and the Sailor
141   Spence Broughton
143   Spencer the Rover
144   Staithes Anthem (The Fisherman and his Child)
146   Still I love him
147   Stow Brow (The Drowned Sailor)
148   The Summer’s Morning (The White Cockade)
149   The Tailor’s Britches
151   Take care of your wives (Preaching for Bacon)
153   There was a maiden fair
154   Three Jolly Fishermen
155   Three men they went a-yunting (Three men went a-hunting)
156   Three-score-and-ten
158   Timothy Briggs the Barber (The Parson with the Wooden Leg)
160   The Two Crows
161   Undaunted Mary (The Banks of the Sweet Dundee)
163   Underneath Her Apron (Three Maids a-Rushing)
165   Up to me Rigs (The Rigs of London Town)
166   Wanton Lasses
168   The Wensleydale Lad
170   What is that blood on thy shirt sleeve? (Edward)
172   Where there’s a will there’s a way
174   The Wild Rover
176   Willy Went to Westerdale
178   The Wreck of the Industry (Industry off SpurnPoint)
180   The Yorkshire Wassailing Song


29 May 25 - 02:38 PM (#4223451)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: The Sandman

180 songs, well done


29 May 25 - 03:42 PM (#4223456)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Dick, those are page numbers. That's the Contents list. There are 115 songs. It's just a small selection from 1,000s, but many of the others are still available in print or are in collections not so accessible to us. Thanks anyway.


29 May 25 - 04:04 PM (#4223457)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: MaJoC the Filk

(*ahem*) Page numbers, Sandman, ol' bean. I make that 115 songs, though I may have miscounted. But "Well done" is no less appropriate.


30 May 25 - 04:12 AM (#4223478)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Yes a good back up of Yorkshire songs in print and permanent addition to what is there already

Ray


30 May 25 - 02:28 PM (#4223496)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Just to be clear, the bulk of the songs come from the Hudleston Collection and were previously published in 2001 no longer available. The book contained a number of flaws in its transcriptions and we have gone back to original recordings to transcribe the selected songs. 18 of the songs come from the repertoire of the great Arthur Wood of Littlebeck and some of these were released on a double CD by Mustrad from recordings made by Colin Wharton in 1962. Although a lot of the songs come from the Esk valley we have balanced this where possible with songs from other parts of Yorkshire, notably from Ruairidh Greig's recordings around Sheffield in the early 70s and my own East Riding recordings made in the 60s and 70s. Some of the songs came from the Yorkshire Garland website, naturally.


02 Jun 25 - 06:47 AM (#4223640)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: GUEST,matt milton

Great - I love all these books that Francis Boutle are publishing and will definitely purchase this one. Is there a particular folk enthusiast in their editorial department there - it's really gratifying that Boutle are so supportive of English traditional music?


02 Jun 25 - 02:15 PM (#4223656)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Clive Boutle is himself a folk performer. He performs with the London Lasses dance team, and some of their other books have folk connections. The firm is based in London. I have met up with Clive at Whitby FF on several occasions in recent years. We are scheduled a couple of launch events at this year's Whitby Festival.

Thanks for your support, Matt!


03 Jun 25 - 07:25 PM (#4223716)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

I like the titles:
Just tried to order with CC- four attempts - No Go!

Alphabet fits my collection.

Well Done putting this together.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

I have euro cash. I am getting books from India - I doubt tariff is involved.


08 Jun 25 - 04:27 PM (#4223900)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

I now have the tunes available for anybody who wants them. PM me for an address.


08 Jun 25 - 11:45 PM (#4223913)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Joe Offer

I ordered mine May 23, but haven't recieved it yet. I won't get anxious until the first of July.
Garg, I have ordered every one of this series of books from Francis Boutle, and I've never had a problem with my Visa Credit card. I pay the bill in pounds and let my credit card company make the conversion. If you email Boutle, they'll get right back to you. They're very nice. I've had some pleasant correspondence with Clive over the years.

Nick, if you see this, I'd like a copy of the melodies.
joe@mudcat.org


09 Jun 25 - 03:09 AM (#4223918)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Received the tunes by email this morning and down loaded to pc like Joe I haven't got the YS yet

I have, I think most of the other new books ( I have the originals ~ most too )

Ray


09 Jun 25 - 04:15 AM (#4223920)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Joe Offer

Is there a name for this series of books? They all match so nicely on my bookshelf. As long as these books keep coming out, I'll keep buying them. They're all wonderful.
-Joe-


09 Jun 25 - 01:35 PM (#4223936)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

Yes this is the 'Marrowbones. series. Clive is hopefully adding the original 'Marrowbones book to the collection in the foreseeable future.


09 Jun 25 - 02:40 PM (#4223944)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Still awaiting a correction from Cohen to one of the scores, otherwise Clive was going to press today.

I have done at least half a dozen proof readings but none of us are perfect so if anyone spots a glaring error please let me or Clive know and we can correct it in a subsequent rerun.

Just for the record, the original Marrow Bones was a shambles, even though many of us bought it and learnt songs from it. Frank sent EFDSS the first proof and impatient Peter Kennedy went to press without consulting Frank, so not his fault. Malcolm and I spent 2 weeks in Cecil Sharp House archives before they were all on the internet and went through everything with a fine-tooth comb before publishing the second edition, and just the fact that MD was on the case would be enough for most people.


17 Jun 25 - 04:27 PM (#4224315)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

I now have the details of the two book promotions at Whitby Folk week.
The launch of 'A Yorkshire Songster' is in the Coliseum Wednesday morning at 10.00 am
The Marrowbones concert is on Thursday afternoon in the Rifle Club. 
There will be a number of excellent singers involved in both promos including Alice and Bryony, Will and Pip Noble, Mossy Christian, Cohen Braithwaite Kilcoyne Steve Gardham and I might do a song or two if there's time. All the books will be on sale. There may be some surprise guests as well. Do not worry if you do not have a week ticket, you can pay on the door. Looking forward to it.


23 Jun 25 - 12:44 PM (#4224597)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

Print completed this Friday 27th. Books are available at Drax singer's weekend (27-29th) and online.


26 Jun 25 - 11:11 AM (#4224739)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

A bookshop in Haworth, dealing in Yorkshire books, would not entertain a 'Yorkshire Songster', and would not even go to the website to have a look. Checking their stock Mally and I found a book entitled Fire Lust and Sex! It wasn't even sex in Yorkshire. No, we didn't buy it!
By the way, there are PDF & MP3 tune copies available for US customers. Just contact Clive Boutle via the website.


01 Jul 25 - 12:15 PM (#4224950)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Got my Yorkshire Songster this morning, July 1st ~ by post

Had a quick scan ~ usual high standard and informative

I got the Mp3s ~ thingy already from Nick ~just need a lifetime to learn 'em

Ray

well done all


01 Jul 25 - 03:09 PM (#4224960)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: GUEST

Thanks, Ray
An extra item in this volume is a fairly comprehensive index, so you can look up your mentions, which are not a few.


01 Jul 25 - 04:11 PM (#4224962)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Yes the index is always a good plan

Ray


01 Jul 25 - 04:25 PM (#4224963)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Just a footnote ~ Mick Haywood and his daughter Sally is working (at last) on his own Website a work in progress ~ Mick and Angi still live in Whitby but are not too well at the moment

Liam is an adopted son

Mick has Sally and Barney as daughter and son first wife Sandra is alive and well. Sandra is as I remember from Doncaster and Mick was borne near Wombwell, Barnsley his father worked as miner at Mexborough

More information on his wip website ~ I did an interview with Mick before a recorded session at Wine and Spirits Vaults at Birstall some years ago

Jim Potter is in his 90s now and has relocated to live with is daughter in Sheffield ~ they have been on a foreign holiday ~ good for them ~

Ray


02 Jul 25 - 03:10 PM (#4225014)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Thanks for that info, Ray. I feel I've made a faux-pas in the book acknowledgments re Jim. As we hadn't heard from him for at least a decade, I assumed not unreasonably that he was no longer with us. He was in his late 80s even then and must be just about tonning up by now. Wow!
If you get to communicate with him please send him my best wishes.

Mick's singing will hopefully live on on our website and on the Whitby pirate ship! If you're in touch you might like to let him know about the book launches at Whitby, 10 a. m. at the Colosseum on the Wednesday of the festival, and Thursday afternoon in the Rifle Club which is a concert.


02 Jul 25 - 03:32 PM (#4225016)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Mick will no doubt be watching for what's on at Whitby folk week I suspect but I will keep it in mind

I do not know if you have seen that Wendy Price has died very recently too. Bill died 1980!a long time ago!

Ray


03 Jul 25 - 09:22 AM (#4225065)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

No, I hadn't heard that, Ray. So sad. I'll be singing with Ruth and Sadie at Barton on the 19th so I'll give my condolences then.


03 Jul 25 - 10:25 AM (#4225067)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Righto

Ray


03 Jul 25 - 04:02 PM (#4225083)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

Bill and Wendy gave me my first northern gig in 1977. So sorry to hear she has died. Please give my condolences to the sisters as well.


09 Jul 25 - 07:54 PM (#4225425)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

We are working on possible book promo's in Leeds and Sheffield. More details will be published when we've sorted out a venue. If you have any ideas, please reply here or let Clive know on the website if you prefer.


11 Jul 25 - 03:09 AM (#4225470)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Waterstone's?

Ray


11 Jul 25 - 08:04 AM (#4225482)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

We are looking for a hall with a bar or kitchen, seating about 30-50 where we can charge for tickets and have a concert of relevant songs and a short presentation. Thanks anyway Ray.


11 Jul 25 - 11:23 AM (#4225497)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

O right sorry, misunderstood

Ray


14 Jul 25 - 06:57 AM (#4225607)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: The Sandman

How about contacting whitby folk club, or the seamans mission building? or whitby brwery venue, doesnt Richard Grainger run a monthly song club there?


14 Jul 25 - 12:40 PM (#4225630)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

The Shakespeare, Gibraltar Street, Sheffield is a big folkie venue may be suitable?

Ray


14 Jul 25 - 12:41 PM (#4225632)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

Thanks Ray I'll get on to it.


14 Jul 25 - 01:49 PM (#4225637)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

We held one of our launches for one of the earlier volumes quite successfully at the Shakespeare.

I've just been informed that the first run is sold out. I'm pretty sure Clive will be ordering another run ASAP.

Dick, we already have a launch scheduled in Whitby, at the Festival, thanks. Wednesday a.m. at 10 in the Colosseum, and a promo concert in the Rifle Club on Thursday afternoon.


15 Jul 25 - 01:50 AM (#4225665)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Great to see good demand for the book!

Ray


20 Jul 25 - 07:33 PM (#4225982)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Joe Offer

My copy arrived in California today, and it's such a treasure. Thank you, Steve and all.
This is Volume 7 of The Marrow Bones series of English Folk Songs. I count six on my shelf. Which one am I missing?
  • A Yorkshire Songster [folk songs collected in Yorkshire since the Second World War] (Gardham, 2025)
  • A Secret Stream (Vol 1) [Folk Songs collected from English Gypsies] (Gardham & Dow, 2021)
  • A Secret Stream (Vol. 2) [Folk Songs collected from the Gypsy and Travelling community] (Gardham & Dow, 2023)
  • Southern Songster [English Folk Songs from the Hammond and Gardiner Manuscripts] (Gardham, 2020)
  • Southern Harvest (The Constant Lovers & The Foggy Dew) [English Folk Songs from the Hammond and Gardiner Manuscripts] (Gardham/Purslow, 2017)
  • The Wanton Seed [English Folk Songs from the Hammond and Gardiner Manuscripts] (Douglas/Gardham/Purslow, 2017)

https://francisboutle.co.uk/books/the-arts/traditional-music/


21 Jul 25 - 12:47 PM (#4226011)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

The Wanton Seed, and I have found a designer who is working for Clive and producing a printable copy of Marrowbones. We are looking for a suitable cover, wood cut lino print etc. like all the others. So if you find anything that might be in the right style let Clive know at the website or post a link here with Joe's permission.


21 Jul 25 - 12:57 PM (#4226016)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Constant lover?

Ray


21 Jul 25 - 02:42 PM (#4226020)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Joe, you're missing the first in the series originally produced by EFDSS but Clive is working on a new edition which will almost be a facsimile of the EFDSS edition with new cover in the style of the Boutle editions, as Nick says.

Nick, I've sent Clive a possible cover print refashioned from a cut in the Pepys Collection. It shows the husband stood on the river bank with his wife splashing about in the river. I've had to doctor it somewhat but it's the best fit.

My first effort from a Marrow Bones broadside showed a woman beating her husband and Clive understandably didn't want to use this one.

However, if anyone has a better offer, of an appropriate cut from the 17th/18th century, we'd be glad of it.


22 Jul 25 - 12:59 AM (#4226034)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Joe Offer

Thanks, Steve. I suspected that Marrow Bones (Malcolm Douglas, Steve Gardham, Frank Purslow 2007) was the first in the series. I've got that one, too. This is a remarkable project, and I wanted to support it.
Can you tell us more about the Marrow Bones series of English Folk Songs? Marrow Bones was revised with new notes and commentaries by Malcolm Douglas and Steve Gardham and published by EFDSS in 2007. The revised Wanton Seed has the same credits, published by Boutle in 2015. Steve Gardham and Nick Dow are responsible for most or all of the others. But Steve, can you tell us more about who's doing what? What's next?
-Joe-

P.S. Did you get my suggestion about a U.S. publisher?


22 Jul 25 - 04:15 AM (#4226037)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Hagman

My copy arrived Down Here in Oz today. Looks great. Many thanks, all!


22 Jul 25 - 07:12 AM (#4226042)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Reinhard

My copy of A Yorkshire Songster arrived today too. Thanks to Brexit it took only five weeks from the UK to Hamburg.


22 Jul 25 - 12:35 PM (#4226054)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Hi Joe,
Okay, regarding Wanton Seed, was meant to be a follow-up to Marrow Bones and Malcolm did most of the work on correcting the scores and texts. However, he passed before the notes could be completed so I finished the book off complete with historic notes. Having sent it to EFDSS it sat on a shelf somewhere for several years until a friend of Malcolm's, Ron Day in Sheffield decided to get it done as a memorial to Malcolm and he found the publisher, Boutles. Having published this Ron then got together those of us interested in carrying on with the project, Nick, Graham Pratt and myself and then the next omnibus volume was produced. Nick then suggested we make a further selection from the Hammond-Gardiner Mss and that became Southern Songster. By then Graham had had to drop out and Nick brought in Cohen to do the setting and Nick took charge of the 2 Secret Songster volumes.

We have already started on a Lincolnshire volume which will include many from the out-of print Percy Grainger material, and songs collected more recently by Mo Ogg and Ruairidh Greig (Who contributed to the current volume). Carol Dawson of Folklincs, a wonderful folk entrepreneur/fiddler/teacher has offered to select the songs this time but Nick, Cohen and I will provide our usual contributions.

After that, Lancashire has been suggested, as there isn't an in-print collection in the same format.


22 Jul 25 - 03:04 PM (#4226060)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Joe Offer

Thanks, Steve. May you all live forever!


23 Jul 25 - 12:16 PM (#4226115)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

A Yorkshire Songster has been reprinted. There will be plenty at Whitby, and they can be ordered on line from the Boutle Website.
Secret Stream 2 and Marrowbones will be available soon I'll do a separate thread for that.


23 Jul 25 - 02:36 PM (#4226127)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Clive says he has Secret Stream 2 now.


26 Jul 25 - 02:50 PM (#4226273)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

The details of the Whitby book launch and promos have been sent to me.

10:00 11:20 BOOK LAUNCH A Yorkshire Songster
Coliseum
A new edition of folk songs from Yorkshire has been produced by Clive Boutle and edited by Steve Gardham. Steve will be introducing the book and singing some of the songs together with Nick Dow, Bryony Griffith & Alice Jones; Cohen Braithwaite-Kilcoyne and Mossy Christian

15:15 17:30 THE MARROWBONES CONCERT
Rifle Club Concert Room
Nick Dow, Arthur Knevett, Cohen Braithwaite-Kilcoyne, Matt Quinn & George Sansome will be singing songs from the newly re-published Marrowbones and other books in the Hammond Gardiner Collection


27 Jul 25 - 03:20 AM (#4226284)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

We need the days Nick

Ray


27 Jul 25 - 05:58 AM (#4226287)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

Sorry of course you do! It's Weds and Thurs. Rush of blood to the head!


23 Aug 25 - 09:00 AM (#4227530)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

A big thank you to all who performed and attended the two concerts at the Whitby Festival. Both events had full houses, so what more could we ask? Thanks again, from Nick and Clive Boutle.


13 Sep 25 - 08:35 AM (#4228502)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Yes I was at the Coliseum event at Whitby ~ a full house

Ray


13 Sep 25 - 03:36 PM (#4228527)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: GUEST,Steve

Nick,

Could you please tell me the dimensions, and type of binding, for this and the other books in the series. The Francis Boutle website doesn't seem to provide such detail.

I'm interested in buy one, or possibly all, of these books but such things matter to me.

Many thanks,

Steve


14 Sep 25 - 02:41 PM (#4228573)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

23.4 cm x 15.5 cm and most vols are about 1.5 cm thick although Southern Harvest is considerably thicker.


14 Sep 25 - 02:42 PM (#4228574)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

card binding. Not a hardback.


14 Sep 25 - 03:47 PM (#4228576)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: GUEST,Steve

Thank you, that's helpful. An order will be on it's way.


14 Sep 25 - 07:40 PM (#4228590)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

Thanks Steve. Just caught up with this. Let me know if you want the tunes in MP3.


14 Sep 25 - 09:46 PM (#4228596)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Joe Offer

That's a sneaky thing about the Marrowbones series. They're all the same size and have matching cover designs, so I have to have each volume as it comes out. The trouble is, the first volume was Marrow Bones (Malcolm Douglas, Steve Gardham, Frank Purslow) was published by EFDSS in 2007 with a different cover, and I bought that edition. A new edition will be published by Boutle with a matching cover, but can I really justify buying it just so the cover will match?
Ah, decisions, decisions.
But it's a wonderful series and I highly recommend it.
-Joe-


15 Sep 25 - 12:23 PM (#4228619)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

I think Clive is hoping to sell copies to the youngsters who weren't around when the first and second editions were issued. This new run will not contain anything fresh on the second edition (apart from the cover and an update to the acknowledgements). As for size the EFDSS edition is exactly the same size as the later volumes. I sent him a doctored 17th century woodcut for the cover but whether he's using it I don't yet know.


18 Sep 25 - 02:47 AM (#4228707)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

With Joe's help, I have made an enquiry to a publishing house in the US with a view to re-printing and distribution of the series. I had a very pleasant reply, so I hope Clive can make an agreement and expand our readership.
Onward and upward!


18 Sep 25 - 01:35 PM (#4228794)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Wonderful stuff. Well done, Nick!


18 Sep 25 - 05:56 PM (#4228805)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Joe Offer

Glad to hear you've had success, Nick. I think you'll like him.


18 Sep 25 - 07:00 PM (#4228806)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

Thanks, Joe. Hopefully, the idea might be viable. Thanks for the heads up.


25 Sep 25 - 11:20 AM (#4229217)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Availability for the future

Ray


25 Sep 25 - 07:34 PM (#4229244)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

Sorry Ray? I'm not quite with you.


27 Sep 25 - 02:38 AM (#4229282)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: r.padgett

Bump on fb sorry

Ray


28 Sep 25 - 07:48 PM (#4229342)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: GUEST,Ed

May I ask a question regarding the mp3s?

Are they someone singing each tune, someone playing it on piano, guitar or whatever, or are they recorded midi files?

If it's the latter, I'd personally find the original midi files far more useful but that's just me.

Many thanks,

Ed


29 Sep 25 - 01:19 PM (#4229423)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Steve Gardham

Pretty sure they're midi files, Ed.


29 Sep 25 - 03:20 PM (#4229425)
Subject: RE: A Yorkshire Songster new book available (Gardham)
From: Nick Dow

Yes, you will get a one finger piano rendition. They are MP3 files. A bit big but I'll send them by We Transfer. They have proved very popular. If you PM me with an Email or if you prefer contact Clive I'll take it from there. It will take me all of three minutes so not a big job.