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16 Dec 25 - 11:28 AM (#4233051) Subject: When is a riff not a riff? From: Dave the Gnome Just reflecting on one of my favourite songs (my phone's default ringtone) - Parisienne Walkways by Gary Moore. I always described the opening as a riff because it is repeated 2 or 3 times during the song but I am not so sure now. Maybe too long for a riff. Maybe it's a lick. I am no real musician so can someone tell me how to spot the difference? And, yes, I know Google will but I like real people more :-D |
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16 Dec 25 - 02:36 PM (#4233068) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: GUEST,Steve Shaw Ah, Dave, but is it a hook? |
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16 Dec 25 - 05:04 PM (#4233074) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: GUEST,The Sandman What matters is how the music is played, not names |
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16 Dec 25 - 05:13 PM (#4233075) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: GUEST,AI OVERVIEW The Sandman riff is a main, repeated musical phrase that often defines a song (like "Smoke on the Water"), forming its backbone, while a lick is a shorter, more decorative melodic phrase or "nugget" of notes, often improvised within solos or as fills, that can be moved between songs. Think of a riff as the essential furniture of a room, and licks as decorative pillows you can swap out; licks build solos, while riffs are the song's recognizable theme |
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16 Dec 25 - 05:30 PM (#4233078) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: Stilly River Sage Who cares about an AI overview? Stick with the human brain, please. |
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16 Dec 25 - 06:18 PM (#4233079) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler I would say that I consider a riff to be a distinctive feature of a particular song or tune that will alway call that song or tune to mind. I would say that a lick is a feature that may be found lurking in multiple tunes or songs and is re-used as needed where appropriate. Robin (no AI consulted). |
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17 Dec 25 - 03:13 AM (#4233089) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: The Sandman Who cares about an AI overview? Stick with the human brain, please." quote That is my choice, it is not the job of a moderator to tell members how they should get correct info |
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17 Dec 25 - 04:12 AM (#4233090) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: Dave the Gnome It is a moderators job to stop people shitting on other people's threads though, Dick. I'm sure your attempts to cause trouble will be cleaned up - for the umpteenth time - but it would be nice if you would stop trolling for a while. |
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17 Dec 25 - 04:15 AM (#4233091) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: Dave the Gnome Thanks Robin. With thar description I would definitely consider the opening of Parisienne Walkways to be a riff then. Steve, stop confusing me even more :-D |
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17 Dec 25 - 06:16 AM (#4233096) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: GUEST,gillymor In jazz parlance I think that opening would be considered a "head", it sounds kind of long to be a riff. |
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17 Dec 25 - 06:32 AM (#4233097) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: Johnny J When it is a "raff"? ;-) |
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17 Dec 25 - 07:47 AM (#4233103) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: Sol If a song was a tree .... The riff = the bough The lyrics = the branches The licks = the leaves Feel free to disagree ;-) |
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17 Dec 25 - 09:36 AM (#4233107) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: Dave the Gnome I like that, Sol :-) Where does the tune fit in? Trunk or roots? |
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17 Dec 25 - 11:21 AM (#4233112) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: clueless don How about a "phrase"? I remember reading that John Lennon described the opening guitar part of "I Feel Fine" as a "figure". |
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17 Dec 25 - 06:36 PM (#4233129) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: Sol "DTG -I like that, Sol :-) Where does the tune fit in? Trunk or roots?" Good point! I guess it's integral with the lyrics. |
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17 Dec 25 - 06:37 PM (#4233130) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: Sol ps ... and or the bough. Take your pick. |
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17 Dec 25 - 07:01 PM (#4233133) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: Dave the Gnome Don - Am I misremembering or the opening to "I feel fine" a long note which distorts part way through? |
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18 Dec 25 - 03:22 AM (#4233142) Subject: RE: When is a riff not a riff? From: The Sandman Yes it starts with a long note. providing correct information which is what i did with the help of AI , is not shitting on other peoples threads |