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07 Jan 26 - 05:32 AM (#4233932) Subject: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: Jack Campin This is not something I would have expected to find in Norfolk. Maybe a morris side might take it up? Iron Age archaeological find |
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07 Jan 26 - 07:56 AM (#4233940) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: DaveRo This Guardian piece has a picture of the Gundestrup cauldron, which shows how they were held aloft to play: https://www.theguardian.com/science/2026/jan/07/iron-age-war-trumpet-find-britain-norfolk-boudicca-links |
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07 Jan 26 - 10:06 AM (#4233944) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: Stilly River Sage From the first article: Dr Fraser Hunter, a leading authority on carnyces from the National Museums of Scotland says, “this extraordinary find will add enormously to our understanding of the Iron Age world. A possible symbol to use if the UK ever reconnects with the wider European world. :) |
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07 Jan 26 - 03:06 PM (#4233951) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: Rapparee It’s mine and I want it back! |
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07 Jan 26 - 04:07 PM (#4233952) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: Paul Burke "full research and conservation of these incredibly fragile remains will reshape our view of sound and music in the Iron Age" Let's hope they don't ask a Guards trumpeter to test it out - like they did with one from Tutenkhamun's tomb. One great blast, and it shattered completely. |
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07 Jan 26 - 04:16 PM (#4233953) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: Sandra in Sydney oops ... |
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07 Jan 26 - 06:59 PM (#4233958) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: Tattie Bogle There was one played at Celtic Connections in Glasgow a few years back, in the Glasgow Royal Concert Hall, by the principal trumpeter from one of the Scottish orchestras. He didn’t shatter the instrument, but maybe a few nerves and eardrums! |
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07 Jan 26 - 08:06 PM (#4233960) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: Jack Campin The carnyx pioneer in Scotland is John Kenny. I've been right next to him playing it indoors in a small hall - it isn't as loud as you might think. And just missed a concert he did with it in Mostar, Bosnia. I think it was intended as a statement about peace, just as you'd expect from an instrument designed to look like a furious drooling bellowing bug-eyed pig. If you want one there's a maker in France. |
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08 Jan 26 - 07:35 PM (#4234026) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: Tattie Bogle That’s the guy who played it at the concert I mentioned, Jack. Don’t think my husband would allow me to get one: already too many instruments in our non-dining room! |
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09 Jan 26 - 11:17 AM (#4234048) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: MaJoC the Filk > already too many instruments in our non-dining room I mentioned this to Herself, and she nodded sympathetically: unkind words like "clutter" are sometimes heard when she's dusting the dining room.* But if I don't have the instruments to hand when said hands are idle, how will I practice :-) ? As it is, both the banjolele and the bouzouki stay in their cases for lack of floor stands, which makes them less likely to casually get picked up and played. I really must agitate for modern houses to have picture rails, so instruments can be hooked from them, and we'd get the floorspace back. * I maintain a tactful silence on the subject of jigsaws. |
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12 Jan 26 - 01:51 PM (#4234189) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: Ernest If you haven`t expected one to be found in Norfolk: Have you considered that it was used as a vuvuzela in a prehistoric soccer match? Getting my coat.... |
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13 Jan 26 - 09:55 PM (#4234287) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk From: FreddyHeadey "Musician John Kenny, performed with the Carnyx, at the opening of the European Association of Archaeologists' (EAA) Annual Meeting at the Hunterian museum in Glasgow yesterday (Wed). The Carnyx, is a wind instrument of the Iron Age Celts, used in warfare between 200 BC and 200 AD. It was a type of bronze trumpet with an elongated S shape and the bell is styled in the shape of an open-mouthed boar's head. John, a pioneer in the field of music archaeology, is a Professor at both the Guildhall School of Music and Drama in London and The Royal Conservatoire of Scotland. " https://youtu.be/-DIIaCUJ1yQ Another BBC article on the recent discovery https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cr7jvj8d39eo The discovery will be featured in the second episode of the new series of Digging for Britain,,, Series 13: 2 www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m002pl59 > 4:30 replica played by Letty Stott > 17:15 |
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14 Jan 26 - 04:21 AM (#4234292) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk (Celtic war trumpet) From: FreddyHeadey If you are in London this week Carnyx, Animal Horns & Shells! By New School of the Anthropocene Jan 16[2026] from 7pm to 9:30pm GMT A concert & talk by musical archaeologist & trombonist, John Kenny, with soprano Adaya Peled. Giant Celtic horns will feature prominently! The Art Workers' Guild 6 Queen Square London WC1N 3AT https://maps.app.goo.gl/cGdudwgDSkMZxD2v6 |
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14 Jan 26 - 06:24 AM (#4234294) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk (Celtic war trumpet) From: GUEST Was the carnyx displaced by the war bagpipes? What would win in a head to head across the line of battle? |
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14 Jan 26 - 05:16 PM (#4234345) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk (Celtic war trumpet) From: Jack Campin We don't have any evidence that the carnyx was ever used in war. It was such an impractical thing to carry around that it may have been purely an instrument for religious ritual like the large Tibetan trumpet or the Romanian bucium/tulnic. |
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14 Jan 26 - 05:38 PM (#4234348) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk (Celtic war trumpet) From: The Sandman Perhaps, it was used by Bernard Matthews[ bootiful Turkeys]he liked to blow his own trumpet, could it have been bought there by invading vikings or danes, or Bouddica |
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15 Jan 26 - 08:53 AM (#4234382) Subject: RE: Carnyx found in Norfolk (Celtic war trumpet) From: MaJoC the Filk MajoC's €0.02: > It was such an impractical thing to carry around So is a battle standard; and in battle, a carnyx might be heard farther off than a flag could be seen. That doesn't mean there weren't *ceremonial* carnyxes (carnyces?) as well, of course, which would probably feature in burials alongside equally-ceremonial weapons. |