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19 Apr 00 - 11:22 AM (#214307) Subject: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: catspaw49 First, its a given that I'm a complete computer idiot. I sit here with this fastass, big memory, Gateway and I don't know a tenth of what it does. But in the past couple of years, I've gotten pretty good at searching the Net and setting up this thing to do what I want. I have arranged the desktop to my needs and have shortcuts to various things I use. For a long time, one of those shortcuts has been the 'Cat of course, but the thing simply said "threads" and some generic little gizwhickie as an icon. THEN........Seemingly out of the blue, I notice that I now have a little "Banjo/Catfish Mudcat Logo" ICON!!!! Its real cute and all that, but where the hell did it come from? With others, they have either come up at the time I loaded the program or I added it from somewhere later. I mean, there are times I think this damn computer has a life of its own and does things either to confuse me or simply piss me off. I am sometimes missing food or beverage from my fridge too and I have a feeling its raiding the icebox when I go to sleep. Plus, I think its having an affair with my VCR, but I can't catch them "in the act." But, my question is.......where did the icon come from? Is it a new feature of sorts or something Ms. Gateway finally decided to let me see? Spaw |
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19 Apr 00 - 11:25 AM (#214309) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Sorcha Well, I'll be boogered! MY shortcut is just a little piece of paper with the corner turned down and the flying e IE logo on top of it. If you figger this out let me know, I want one too! |
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19 Apr 00 - 11:36 AM (#214315) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Allan C. Anytime you guys open a site and want to have an iconed shortcut to something, just rightclick on the page and select "create shortcut" (or at least this is how it works on my system). |
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19 Apr 00 - 11:37 AM (#214317) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Allan C. But I don't have a clue as to the answer to the original question. |
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19 Apr 00 - 11:42 AM (#214322) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: catspaw49 Yeah, that's the thing Allan....The shortcut I created long ago ang it had the same little icon Sorcha described. But the other day, this popped up instead!!! Spaw |
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19 Apr 00 - 11:44 AM (#214323) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Kelida Hmmmm. . . What Allan said is right--the same on my comp. Maybe you did that on accident? Peace--Bridget |
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19 Apr 00 - 11:45 AM (#214325) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Allan C. I just tried and got the same old thing. I guess it is just that your are a freaking genius with this stuff but just don't know it yet! |
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19 Apr 00 - 11:48 AM (#214326) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: catspaw49 Yaeh, could be AC.....I plan on screwing with CNN, Yahoo, and e-Bay, later today. Hate to be outdone by a 15 year old kid in Canada. Spaw |
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19 Apr 00 - 11:50 AM (#214329) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario You got me curious....'spaw, could you (would you?) right-click on the icon; chose properties;
on that there should be a "change icon" button. What does it say in the "file name" box? |
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19 Apr 00 - 11:53 AM (#214333) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: catspaw49 OK Mario....But if I lose my Catfish, I'm coming to New York and kick your ass!!! Spaw |
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19 Apr 00 - 12:16 PM (#214340) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: GUEST,Sinsull I'll be darned. Now I have a banjo too. Thanks. |
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19 Apr 00 - 12:31 PM (#214344) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: catspaw49 It doesn't show up in the icon files anywhere I can find. Properties/Change Icons shows 4 different folders and I browsed the lot and can't find it anywhere......Now I'm REALLY confused!!!! Sinsull....How did you get yours? Spaw |
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19 Apr 00 - 12:44 PM (#214352) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario properties/change icon should show a specific file name. What is it? |
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19 Apr 00 - 12:46 PM (#214353) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario and of course the other question is, do you use auto-update, or live update, or any of those nasty little programs? |
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19 Apr 00 - 12:53 PM (#214360) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: katlaughing Oh, thanks a LOT, Spaw, I really mean that....NOT!!! Now I will NEVER get anything done, with one more step eliminated, it will be SO easy...just bypass the home page crap and bingo, there I am, arrrrggghhhhhh!!!**BG** For what it is worth, I did what Allan said to and got the mudcat icon. When I clicked on properties to change icon, it said the current one was WINDOWS/SYSTEM/url.dll. Now I have to log off so I can go play clickie with the damn thingie, it's so cute!!! |
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19 Apr 00 - 12:54 PM (#214361) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: katlaughing Oh, thanks a LOT, Spaw, I really mean that....NOT!!! Now I will NEVER get anything done, with one more step eliminated, it will be SO easy...just bypass the home page crap and bingo, there I am, arrrrggghhhhhh!!!**BG** For what it is worth, I did what Allan said to and got the mudcat icon. When I clicked on properties to change icon, it said the current one was WINDOWS/SYSTEM/url.dll. Now I have to log off so I can go play clickie with the damn thingie, it's so cute!!! |
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19 Apr 00 - 12:59 PM (#214362) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: catspaw49 Yeah, that's all I get in the file name too......And I'm telling you I have looked in all the icon files and it ain't there. I use 98 and that box on the change icons screen shows 4 icon s with a red asterisk and I checked all that too. I did the icon files for desktop and the rest are there but the little mudcat ain't. Spaw |
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19 Apr 00 - 01:04 PM (#214365) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: catspaw49 Well, I finally found it after changing the name from threads.cfm to Mudcat Cafe....but it says the file has no icons in it. Spaw |
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19 Apr 00 - 01:12 PM (#214370) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Sorcha OK, I had the e icon as a short cut, I just now right clicked on the page thread, not the home page, and did the create shortcut thing again, and this time I got the banjo! Coolie-0! Maybe King Max did it? |
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19 Apr 00 - 01:39 PM (#214386) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: SINSULL I went to the Forum Page where you can create a new thread. Right clicked on the page. Selected Create a Shortcut. Got a message that this would put an Icon on my desktop. Clicked OK and there it was. Good Luck. |
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19 Apr 00 - 01:51 PM (#214394) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario *sob* I can't get it...... I'm stongly suspecting it's an autodownload type thing....which I have turned off, since most of them can't get through the firewall without crashing the 'puter anyway |
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19 Apr 00 - 01:52 PM (#214396) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Sorcha Ok, MMario, how do I check to see if I have this auto download thingie? My computer, then properties? |
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19 Apr 00 - 01:58 PM (#214398) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario no - it would be in your browser options.....what are you using, Internet Exploder or the good one? |
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19 Apr 00 - 01:59 PM (#214399) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Wincing Devil The Real Answer is:Warning: Slight TechnoBabble HereThis is only visible to Internet Explorer users who bookmark a site. Also, the WebMaster must have put together an Icon file called "favicon.ico" that IE will request when the user bookmarks a site. This does two things:
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19 Apr 00 - 02:01 PM (#214401) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Sorcha Nope, still got the exploder. I rt clicked on the icon, did props. and the url is the httpmudcat one, short cut key is none, and still the c:windows, icon does not appear in my change choices. |
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19 Apr 00 - 02:02 PM (#214402) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario so - it IS an automatic download of an icon file to the user without (the user) requesting it... |
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19 Apr 00 - 02:08 PM (#214406) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Jon Freeman I wouldn't have a clue about these icons or shortcuts to Mudcat as I don't use them. I simply have Mudcat set as my home page so it loads up everytime I start the browser. Jon |
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19 Apr 00 - 02:18 PM (#214412) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Wincing Devil MMario:
You request the file by bookmarking the site. It is NOT an attempt by the Borg to take over humanity, merely trying to make the web easier to navigate. Wincing_Devil
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19 Apr 00 - 02:27 PM (#214417) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario bookmarking does NOT require a download. Nor do I like the idea that a webmaster can control what my shortcuts look like. Kids create shortcuts too..... |
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19 Apr 00 - 02:37 PM (#214420) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Ed Pellow Mmario, Bookmarking does require a download. At the very least you are downloading the name of the page and it's url. I have no problem with it, as by it's nature, web surfing almost always involves downloading. I remember reading an article in an internet magazine, a few months ago, on how to do the bookmark icon. I can't find the article, and would be grateful if anyone could point me in the direction of any on-line resources that might tell me. Thanks Ed |
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19 Apr 00 - 02:43 PM (#214422) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Homeless Any time you surfing on the net you are constantly downloading. Every bit of text, every line, every button, every picture that shows up in your browser is downloaded. By going to a page you are reqesting that files be downloaded to your computer. |
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19 Apr 00 - 02:48 PM (#214427) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Sorcha Now on the main threads page I have the banjo icon just in front of the http in the address bar! On a thread page, I have the e icon.......... |
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19 Apr 00 - 02:55 PM (#214433) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario okay - I agree.I stated my case badly. what I object to is that this custom icon bit is out of the control of the user. A webmaster can put whatever they want into the icon. MINIMUM, you should have the option of turning the feature off. okay - I'm a "minimalist". Frames, backgrounds, etc drive me nuts. And while I respect the right of www.comtemplator.com to put background music on every page I am VERY happy with the change that allows me to turn it off. which I do immediatly on entering. and I'm grumpy today....which is coming out in my posts. my apologies (spelling? that just doesn't look right) to all. |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:03 PM (#214436) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Homeless MMario - I tend to agree with you. I work as a computer programmer and detest all the bells and whistles. I'd much prefer text only (I'd rather go back to DOS than deal with Windows). I also keep the security on my browser set at the highest level, and delete stuff manually on a daily basis. The ONLY reason I allow cookies on my machine is so I can come into the Mudcat. I don't want anything changed on my machine unless I specifically do it, and try to block any change that anyone else tries to make. The best way to put me in a grumpy mood is to start screwing with my machine. |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:06 PM (#214440) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: SDShad Or, if like me, you're sitting here wondering "what the heck are they talking about," since for some reason you have both IE and Netscape and neither of them uses a Mudcat Banjo icon when you create a shortcut with them (okay, so I'm also running NT 4.0 Workstation, which might have something to do with it too), you could point your browser at: http://www.mudcat.org/favicon.ico, and save the icon file to your hard drive, and then you can use it as the icon for anything. Chris |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:13 PM (#214444) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario ed...try here
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19 Apr 00 - 03:14 PM (#214445) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Max Boy, you guys are smart. Cute isn't it. Wincing Devil got it figured first, and SDShad got the rest to ya. Wanna hear the story of the ICON? OK... When we were relaunching the site back when with a lot of the new features, for days afterward I was carefully watching the log files to discover any errors or oversights etc. I kept seeing this file not found for favicon.ico. I was confused and did a little research. What I found was what Wincing Devil posted above. When folks add a bookmark in Internet Explorer, the browser looks to see if the site has an icon associated with it. I simply made sure it did. Neato huh? I'm a friggin Genius huh?
Apparently it only works with newer version of IE, maybe 4 or better, or maybe 5. |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:22 PM (#214450) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: GUEST,Bob schwarer who's a guest again I went to the "Create a New Thread" page and installed the shortcut, then changed the path so when I click it the thread page comes up. Bob S. |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:23 PM (#214452) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario IE5. The site I bookmarked above has an explanation of it, plus instructions on how to do it, and even instructions on how to make it blow up someones browser.... |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:24 PM (#214453) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Ed Pellow Mmario, Thanks for the link - I bookmarked it, and guess what, it doesn't bother having it's own icon Not sure what that says... Ed |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:29 PM (#214456) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: catspaw49 Well thanks for the info and the Icon Max, (IE5 here on 98) but as I was doing Wincing Devil's site I got one of those lovely MS messages that I had done gone and performed one of them illegal type of operations and puter went down in flames!!! So here's a special message to Bill Gates---Kiss my ass. And one to our good buddy, Wincing Devil---Fock you too. best to all......... Spaw |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:33 PM (#214459) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: catspaw49 BTW Wincing....We have Cornish Rex. And A&E seems to have perhaps a new Cats special on this coming Sunday. Spaw |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:34 PM (#214460) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Easy Rider HEY! NO FAIR! All I got was that stinking Netscape icon. |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:34 PM (#214461) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Ed Pellow I lied - it does have an icon - I'll use my usual excuse of being tired, and the time being late... Ed |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:43 PM (#214465) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: MMario easy - if you use the link above to download the file itself, then you can point your shortcut to the file.... |
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19 Apr 00 - 03:48 PM (#214469) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Sorcha SEE? I done TOLE ya King Max did it!! |
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19 Apr 00 - 04:18 PM (#214486) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: Max Funny, my horoscope told me that I have a shot at King of the World today. Strangest horoscope I ever heard of. I quote: "What would you do if you were king or queen of the world? Make plans; you may get a great chance later."
What the hell is up with that? |
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19 Apr 00 - 04:19 PM (#214490) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: jeffp Max, you are already king of OUR world. jeffp |
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19 Apr 00 - 04:38 PM (#214501) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: GUEST It's in the cookies! |
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19 Apr 00 - 04:58 PM (#214517) Subject: RE: BS: Where did the Icon Come from??? From: catspaw49 Max, my guess would be that you'll look like Bill Gates, be as financially endowed as Robert Johnson, and dress like Queen Elizabeth. Just a guess.....I may be wrong. Spaw |