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Proverb about singing

08 May 00 - 05:11 PM (#224825)
Subject: Proverbs about singing
From: GUEST,Angun

Anyone knows a good proverb or a quote about singing?

Angun


08 May 00 - 05:17 PM (#224827)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Susanne (skw)

A German one: Birds who sing at dawn are eaten at dusk by the cat. (Proibably not the kind you are after ...) - Susanne


08 May 00 - 05:17 PM (#224828)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,JZG

"If you can walk, you can dance. If you can talk, you can sing."

But I forget who said it. Another one I like (but also can't attribute, and it's not specifically about singing) is:

"Music is too important to be left to professionals."

JZG


08 May 00 - 06:07 PM (#224869)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: McGrath of Harlow

Here is a quote I just put in the thread What is Folk in SONG.

Bright is the ring of words
when the right man rings them
Fair the fall of songs
when the singer sings them
Still they are carolled and said -
on wings they are carried -
After the singer is dead
and the maker buried.


Robert Louis Stevenson (from Songs of Travel)


08 May 00 - 06:08 PM (#224870)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Mark Clark

"Never teach a pig to sing; it is a waste of your time and it annoys the pig."

      - Mark


08 May 00 - 06:26 PM (#224878)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Chocolate Pi

From the fasola discussions email list:

>>"Some people say I can't sing.
>> Well, nobody can say I didn't sing."

>attributed to Florence Foster Jenkins, operatic singer
>whose recordings were marked by "rather remarkable
>shifts in tonality."


08 May 00 - 06:29 PM (#224882)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: wysiwyg

The Book of Psalms is full of quotes about singing.

~S~


08 May 00 - 06:30 PM (#224885)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,Mbo_at_ECU

Praise, what about the lullaby from last night? That sure works for me!

--Mbo


08 May 00 - 07:48 PM (#224915)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Mary in Kentucky

HOW CAN I KEEP FROM SINGING?


08 May 00 - 07:58 PM (#224919)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: wysiwyg

The song Mbo is referring to is written out in the HearMe May 05 thread, and is by Lorre Wyatt.

More info on it is at this thread:

http://www.mudcat.org/thread.CFM?threadID=17874

~S~


08 May 00 - 08:22 PM (#224926)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)

Couple for ye to ponder on:

Every time she (Edith Piaf) sings you have the feeling she's wrenching her soul from her body for the last time. Jean Cocteau

For me, singing is a way of escaping. it's another world. I'm no longer on earth.

Only when singing did I feel loved. Maria Callas

It is the best of all trades, to make songs, and the second best to sing them.
Hilaire Belloc


08 May 00 - 08:26 PM (#224927)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)

Sorry forgot the second quote is by Edith Piaf...


08 May 00 - 08:26 PM (#224928)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Clinton Hammond2

My Grandmother used to say "Sing at the table, cry in bed" But I'm not really sure why... we used to sing at the table all the freekin' time?!?!?!?!

LOL!
{~`


08 May 00 - 08:32 PM (#224931)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Mbo

"Ponder your life, and the lives of those who are, have been, and will be...and let your voice be the instrument of the combined existence..."

--Mbo


08 May 00 - 08:41 PM (#224937)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Malcolm Douglas

Not a proverb, but:

You can do anything to music; it doesn't mind.  -Dave Swarbrick.

Malcolm


08 May 00 - 08:48 PM (#224943)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)

Song is the pen of the soul. Rabbi Chaim Drizin, at the funeral for tenor Jan Peerce


08 May 00 - 09:04 PM (#224952)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Mrrzy

Thread Creep alert, but who said If I can't dance, I don't want to be a part of YOUR revolution!?


08 May 00 - 09:41 PM (#224969)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Chocolate Pi

Mrrzy: Emma Goldman, turn-of-the century American (born in Russia, deported from the US several times) feminist and anarchist.

more quotations:
various people quoted as saying something along the lines of "give me the making of a country's songs and I will control the making of its laws" (isn't this the epigraph in "Songs that Changed the World"?)
Anything too silly to be spoken can be sung (Voltaire or Beaumarchais or someone; quoted by Shaw in Man and Superman)
"All things shall perish from under the sky
Music alone shall live, music alone shall live, music alone shall live
Never to die"

"A damsel with a dulcimer
In a vision onde I saw:
It was an Abyssinian maid
And on her dulcimer she played,
Singing of Mount Abora.
Could I revive within me
Her symphony and song,
To such a deep delight 'twould win me
That with music loud and long,
I would build that dome in air,
That sunny dome! those caves of ice!"
Coleridge, Kubla Khan

"Now shall my inward joys arise and burst into a song." Africa, Sacred Harp 178


Chocolate Pi


09 May 00 - 12:00 AM (#225015)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Night Owl

great thread and responses....Thank you for starting it Angun!!!!


09 May 00 - 12:09 AM (#225019)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Mbo

"I'll sing my song to the wide open spaces
I'll sing my heart out to the infinite sea
I'll sing my visions to the sky-high mountains
I'll sing my song to the free....
One note, pure and easy
Playing so free, like a breath rippling by...."

--Mbo


09 May 00 - 12:13 AM (#225020)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: catspaw49

You're right Owl.......The only thing that always comes to mind first is something I heard Roy Clark say about Patsy Cline.

"After Patsy sang a song, you knew it had been completely sung."

Now that's one helluva' compliment......if not a proverb.

Spaw


09 May 00 - 12:23 AM (#225029)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Mbo

"If I get an encore
I go home feeling like a king
It's a two-way situation
I get a lot of pleasure when I sing"
--Christy Moore

--Mbo


09 May 00 - 12:33 AM (#225035)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: alison

Swans sing before they die - t'were no bad thing
should certain persons die before they sing.

S.T.Coleridge

slainte

alison


09 May 00 - 03:03 AM (#225081)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Amergin

Through all this world of joy and sorrow We still can have singing tomorrow

Pete Seeger


09 May 00 - 05:13 AM (#225096)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,Sian in Wales

My dad had a version of Clinton's Gran's: Sing at the table, die in the workhouse (he could be quite miserable, by dad...)

Then there's the song The Silver Swan (which, living, hath no note. When Death approached unlocked her silent throat, etc.)

And the most well known in Welsh is, "Can di bennill mwyn i'th nain, Ac fe gan dy nain i tithau." (Sing a gentle verse to your Granny, and your Granny will sing back to you) Sort of ... one good turn deserves another.

Sian


09 May 00 - 07:14 AM (#225110)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: keltcgrasshoppper

"And even the sun in dawn a chorus sings, a celestial melody to the earth below" Tjaden ....Have a great day KGH..


09 May 00 - 03:08 PM (#225355)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Dave (the ancient mariner)

Life is a shipwreck but we should not forget to sing in the lifeboats. Voltaire.


09 May 00 - 03:11 PM (#225358)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,Angun

Thanks to all of you! What a great place this is!

Anyone know this in gaelic? A sharing of gold is but brief, but a sharing of song lasts long. ~Gaelic Proverb~

Angun


09 May 00 - 04:22 PM (#225406)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Wesley S

Someone said "Pete Seeger taught the world to sing and we haven't forgiven him yet"


09 May 00 - 05:08 PM (#225439)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Jim Dixon

"Exuberance is beauty." -- William Blake

It applies to singing as well as anything else.


09 May 00 - 05:13 PM (#225443)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: fulurum

music is the soul of the world embedded in sound

unknown


09 May 00 - 06:29 PM (#225483)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Lanfranc

"Sing before breakfast, cry before night" was a saying in my mother's family in Yorkshire.

Never stopped me though!


10 May 00 - 03:46 AM (#225683)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler

"If the bar empties early, the Skiffler must be singing" (anon but usedd widely in UK,and has over the last 20 or so years spread to Greece as well)
RtS


10 May 00 - 07:05 AM (#225712)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: keltcgrasshoppper

"Do lovely things, not dream them, all day long, And so make life, and death, and that forever, one grand sweet song." Charles Kingsley


10 May 00 - 08:41 AM (#225737)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)

To JZG ('way up near the top of the thread):
"If you can walk, you can dance...etc." is attributed to the Yoruba people of Nigeria.

"Music is too important to be left to professionals" I've seen attributed to Michelle Shocked!


10 May 00 - 12:32 PM (#225882)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: folk1234

There was an earlier thread re the Song, "When You Learn a Song, You've Got A Friend For Life".


10 May 00 - 12:45 PM (#225887)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Metchosin

slight drift..."I write music as a sow piddles" Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart


10 May 00 - 12:59 PM (#225894)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: kendall

Make a joyful noise unto the lord..come into his presense with singing and into his courts with praise.


12 May 00 - 08:05 AM (#226996)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler

Not about singing but stillmusic-related, got this from my current reading (Terminal event by James Thayer):
The narrator is an amateur blues harp player:"A drum solo is like a sneeze. You know when it's coming but you can't do a damn thing about it."
RtS


12 May 00 - 08:18 AM (#227000)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,Wolfgang

German song:
Wo man singt, da lass Dich ruhig nieder,
böse Menschen haben keine Lieder.

(Where there's singing, sit down without fear,
mean people do not have songs)

Wolfgang


12 May 00 - 08:46 AM (#227013)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Allan C.

Among my all-time favorites is:

"Use what talent you possess: the woods would be very silent if no birds sang except those that sang best."
-Henry Van Dyke


13 May 00 - 01:51 AM (#227424)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Robo

Dave . . . loved the Belloc. Here's an old one from the Stones' "December's Children" album that could draw some comment: It's "The Singer, Not the Song."


13 May 00 - 02:31 AM (#227433)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Ebbie

"Then to my raptured ear
Let one sweet song be giv'n
Let music charm me last on earth
And greet me first in heav'n."

Last verse of a song that Ginny Hawker, among others, sings. Ebbie


13 May 00 - 02:43 AM (#227437)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Liz the Squeak

Another slight creep - there's one about a whistling woman, in that she shouldn't or else some great calamity will occur, but I can't remember it too well - it is before 8.00am on a Saturday!!

LTS


13 May 00 - 01:03 PM (#227547)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Uncle_DaveO

Liz, I think you're thinking about:

A Whistling woman and a crowing hen
Come alike to no good end.

Dave Oesterreich


03 Jan 05 - 10:55 PM (#1370591)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,grace

"my song is my gift; this one's for you"


04 Jan 05 - 02:03 PM (#1371132)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST

"Qui orationem cantat, bis orat"
"He who sings his prayers, prays twice"
St. Augustine


04 Jan 05 - 05:59 PM (#1371412)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Burke

Guest, thanks for the original. I've heard it as "He who sings, prays twice" and "He who sings well, prays twice." I'm equally glad to know the source.


04 Jan 05 - 06:32 PM (#1371450)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Mudlark

Isak Dinesen said, "All suffering is bearable if it is seen as part of a story." Equally true of music/song.


04 Jan 05 - 09:08 PM (#1371592)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Charley Noble

Alice Gerrard

For you gave me a song
Of a place that I call home;
A song of then,
A song of now,
A song of yet to come.

Charley Noble


05 Jan 05 - 07:51 AM (#1371904)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: A Wandering Minstrel

Alas for those who will not sing and die with all their music still within them - Oliver Wendell Holmes


05 Jan 05 - 10:26 AM (#1372032)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Burke

The crow doth sing as sweetly as the lark
When neither is attended.
William Shakespeare (1564–1616) Portia, in The Merchant of Venice, act 5, sc. 1, l. 102-3.

Just start to sing as you tackle the thing
That "cannot be done," and you'll do it.
Edgar Albert Guest (1881–1959) It Couldn't Be Done (l. 23–24). . .


Swans sing before they die—'twere no bad thing
Should certain persons die before they sing.
Samuel Taylor Coleridge (1772–1834) Epigram on a Bad Singer, Poetical Works, ed. James Dyke Campbell (1893).


If we cannot sing of faith and triumph, we will sing our despair. We will be that kind of bird. There are day owls, and there are night owls, and each is beautiful and even musical while about its business.

Henry David Thoreau (1817–1862) Letter, December 22, 1853, to Harrison Blake, in The Writings of Henry David Thoreau, vol. 6, p. 224, Houghton Mifflin (1906).

I can't stand to sing the same song the same way two nights in succession, let alone two years or ten years. If you can, then it ain't music, it's close-order drill or exercise or yodeling or something, not music.
Billie Holiday (1915–1959) and William Dufty. Lady Sings the Blues, ch. 4 (1956, rev. 1975).

All found in:
The Columbia World of Quotations. Copyright © 1996 Columbia University Pres at Bartleby.com


05 Jan 05 - 11:04 AM (#1372085)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,Cookieless KathWestra at work

Nice thread. I'm glad it got revived!

I have a Dutch Delft plate on my wall with a well-known (and very true) Dutch proverb. The English translation of the text, which is in Dutch, is:
"In the concert of life, nobody gets a program."

Another favorite is a Chekov (I think) quote that goes something like:
"Music unlocks the frozen rivers of the heart." (anybody got a Bartlett's to check on the exact words?)
Kathy


05 Jan 05 - 11:23 AM (#1372109)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Uncle_DaveO

More's the pity, my Bartlett's doesn't include your "Music unlocks" quote.   Nor does the index show me such a quote by someone else. Sorry.

Dave Oesterreich


05 Jan 05 - 02:41 PM (#1372256)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,Com Seangan

áõñéïí áäéïí áów

Tomorrow I'll sing another song
(from the Greek)


05 Jan 05 - 02:44 PM (#1372262)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,Com Seangan

Sorry my Greek symbols didn't come out. I'll try copy and paste:
Áõñéïí áäéïù áów


05 Jan 05 - 10:55 PM (#1372699)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Padre

"If you sing 'Fox on the Run' first thing in the morning, nothing worse can happen to you the rest of the day."
                   Anonymous bluegrass singer @ Berryville, 1975


27 Jan 09 - 03:08 PM (#2550373)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,Tyra Symone

Those who wish to sing, always find a song.


27 Jan 09 - 03:24 PM (#2550388)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: High Hopes (inactive)

If you know all the words to the songs, you probably don't know enough songs


27 Jan 09 - 08:50 PM (#2550642)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Joe_F

A song makes you feel a thought.

Those who can't play sing; those who can't sing dance; those who can't dance play.

And for the lifetime of a song,
The fickle were true and the weak were strong.

Once men sang together round a table in chorus; now one man sings alone, for the absurd reason that he can sing better. -- G. K. Chesterton (1906)


27 Jan 09 - 09:39 PM (#2550669)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Uncle_DaveO

If only the finest bird was allowed to sing, the forest would be a very silent place.


28 Jan 09 - 03:12 AM (#2550760)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Jim Carroll

Not a proverb, but my all-time favourite quote:

"If a man were permitted to make all the ballads, he need not care who should make the laws of a nation.
Andrew Fletcher of Saltoun (Scottish patriot and anti-unionist) 1655-1716"

or my mother's comment on my singing:
"If you were singing for s**t you wouldn't get the smell of it".
Jim Carroll


28 Jan 09 - 04:19 AM (#2550785)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Nigel Parsons

"Those of you who will not sing mus' be playing wi' your own ding-a-ling"
(Chuck Berry)


28 Jan 09 - 05:03 AM (#2550805)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: MikeofNorthumbria

Not a proverb, exactly, but ...

Quite a few of my guitar pupils have claimed that they "couldn't sing". How did they know? They'd tried, a long time ago, and parents, teachers, siblings or school friends had urged them to give it up, because they were "tone deaf".   My rehab programme for them started with this limerick:

There was a young fellow from Tring
Who said when they asked him to sing
"You may think it's odd
But I cannot tell God
Save the Weasel from Pop Goes the King!"

If you can recognise the difference between one note and another, you are not tone deaf. If you are not tone deaf, and you can talk, then you can learn to sing – maybe not brilliantly, but at least adequately. It's just a matter of technique – like walking, swimming, or riding a bicycle. Find a good teacher, and work at it.

Listening to great singers is a joy – but so is singing for yourself and your friends. Don't miss out on it for the rest of your life, just because some ill-informed person heard you hit a clinker and told you to give up.

Wassail!


28 Jan 09 - 05:21 AM (#2550810)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Phil Edwards

"Singing a song in the morning,
Singing it again at night.
I don't even know what I'm singing about
But it makes me feel I feel all right..."
- Kevin Ayers

I used to think that was quite profound, as a song lyric. Actually, I still think it's quite profound.

And who can forget Peter Blegvad's "The only song"? Here are the first few verses:

Imagine a world where this was the only song
And, against your will,
You had to listen to it all day long
Until it made you ill,
Until it made you ill.

Imagine a world where this was the only song
And, against your will,
You had to listen to it all day long
Until it made you ill,
Until it made you ill.

Imagine a world where this was the only song
And, against your will,
You had to listen to it all day long
Until it made you ill,
Until it made you ill.
...

"Ah, music. A magic beyond all we do here!" - Albus Dumbledore


28 Jan 09 - 08:56 AM (#2550928)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Greenacres

If you have time to chatter
Read books
If you have time to read
Walk into mountain, desert and ocean
If you have time to walk
sing songs and dance
If you have time to dance
Sit quietly, you Happy Lucky Idiot

Sasaki Nanao


12 Oct 10 - 06:12 AM (#3005047)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,straw-ghana

what words can do ......music does is better


12 Oct 10 - 06:20 AM (#3005053)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: KirstenE

"Chords that vibrate sweetest pleasure, thrill the deepest notes of woe"
Robert Burns


12 Oct 10 - 08:28 AM (#3005114)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Desi C

A most enjoyable thread, more please

Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song
(Townes Van Zandt)

They'll be singing in Kilkenny, when my time has come to go
(from my own song)

Desi C


12 Oct 10 - 10:24 AM (#3005183)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,CrazyEddie

Our sweetest songs are those that tell of saddest thought

Not a proverb, a line from "Ode to a Skylark" by Shelley


I've also heard something along the lines of "sing good & loud, & if you can't sing good, sing loud"
But I dont remember where.


12 Oct 10 - 12:38 PM (#3005292)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: mayomick

One of William Blake's Proverbs from Hell isn't solely about singing but I think it applies.

"No bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings"


12 Oct 10 - 05:34 PM (#3005479)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: GUEST,ArranBrownButterfly

One of the Guide Laws was along the lines of,

'A Guide smiles and sings at all times'.

When I was in the Guides this had changed to,

'A Guide has courage and is cheerful in all difficulties'.

Hence my imperfect recollection of the older version, as it wasn't the one I had to learn. Doubtless some slightly older ex-Guide can put me right.


12 Oct 10 - 05:45 PM (#3005487)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler

"Whistle before breakfast - tears before bed time".

One that my mother used to quote, I have no idea of the reasoning behind it.

"Who knows, the horse may sing".

An optimists view of the world about the story of the man who told the King that he could teach a horse to sing or else be put to death if he failed.


13 Oct 10 - 04:10 AM (#3005818)
Subject: RE: Proverb about singing
From: MGM·Lion

My mother's version was "Sing before breakfast, cry before supper". She was never sure why either.

~Michael~