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15 May 00 - 01:49 AM (#228094) Subject: Zeigeumer karavane From: alison couldn't find it at "JC's tune finder" or "Richard Robinson's tunebook" anyone heard of it.... thanks slainte alison |
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15 May 00 - 03:11 AM (#228113) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Zeigeumer karavane From: Joe Offer Hi, Alison JC's tune finder has a "Zigeuner Polka. could that be it? (note the spelling of "Zigeuner," the German word for "Gypsy."). Wish I could help more, but I can't find it. -Joe Offer- |
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15 May 00 - 04:30 AM (#228122) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Zeigeumer karavane From: alison Thanks JOe, but that's not it.. the one I am looking for is in a minor key and sounds Russian / Klezmer...... slainte alison |
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15 May 00 - 04:44 AM (#228123) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Zeigeumer karavane From: GUEST,Wolfgang Sorry, Alison, another "no hit" even when I spelled also the second word in German , i.e. 'Karawane". Wolfgang |
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16 May 00 - 12:59 AM (#228580) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Zeigeumer karavane From: alison well thanks for trying fellas slainte alison |
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16 May 00 - 03:39 PM (#228954) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Zeigeumer karavane From: Joe Offer Hey, don't think we should give up on this one. Maybe it's Yiddish, not German. Anybody know the Yiddish word for "gypsy"? It's probably similar to the German "Zigeuner," but may be spelled differently. -Joe Offer- |
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10 Aug 06 - 11:52 PM (#1806937) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Zeigeumer karavane From: Peace "Anybody know the Yiddish word for "gypsy"?" It's 'zigeiner'. |
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11 Aug 06 - 03:48 AM (#1807011) Subject: ADD: Tsigaynerlid (Finster di nakht) From: Paul Burke More likely 'Tsigayner' or 'Tsiganer' or 'Tsigeiner'. There's a lot of variation in Yiddish orthography, I believe even in the source Hebrew script (though I can't read it so can't be definite). Z in Yiddish is nearly always as in 'buzz', not a 'ts' sound. I found this (here)), written by a Jewish concenration camp survivor: Tsigaynerlid Finster di nakht, vi koyln shvarts, Nor trakht un trakht, un s'klapt mayn harts. Mir Tsigayner lebn vi keyner, Mir laydn noyt, genug koym oyf broyt. Dzum dzum dzum, Mir flien arum vi di tshaykes, Dzum dzum dzum, Mir shpiln oyf di balalaykes. Nit vu men togt, nit vu men nakht; A yeder zikh plogt, nor kh'trakht un trakht. Mir Tsigayner lebn vi keyner, Mir laydn noyt, genug koym oyf broyt. Dzum dzum dzum, Mir flien arum vi di tshaykes, Dzum dzum dzum, Mir shpiln oyf di balalaykes. Gypsy Song Dark is the night, like blackest coal. I brood and brood, my heartbeats toll. We Gypsies live like no others do, Suffering pain, and hunger too. Dzum dzum dzum, Like seagulls we fly near and far, Dzum dzum dzum, We're strumming our Gypsy guitar. Nowhere to stay, almost no food; Everyone struggles, but I just brood. We Gypsies live like no others do, Suffering pain, and hunger too. Dzum dzum dzum, Like seagulls we fly near and far, Dzum dzum dzum, We're strumming our Gypsy guitar. |