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BS: Men's Mudcat

02 Jul 00 - 01:39 PM (#250618)
Subject: Men's Mudcat
From: Jon Freeman

Hey Guys, I think it would be great for us to set up a mens only spot within the mudcat. Can we set a time where we can get together, say for an hour, and post on male issues? The females are of course welcome to come along and read the threads.

Please do not worry about the fact that this is a public forum, it doesn't really matter any more than any feeling Max may have on this usage may be - all we need to do is accuse him of being sexist and of trying control things if he does and don't buy any excuse that he may give suggesting that he is trying to keep a facility open to all at all times.

Jon


02 Jul 00 - 01:52 PM (#250623)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: kendall

Old Maine proverb..The more you stir a turd, the worse it stinks.


02 Jul 00 - 02:55 PM (#250642)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: DougR

Hmmm. Kendall, we have found another point of agreement!

DougR


02 Jul 00 - 03:26 PM (#250652)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: kendall

oh oh


02 Jul 00 - 04:44 PM (#250674)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: DougR

Kendall:maybe you're becoming a Conservative!

DougR


02 Jul 00 - 04:59 PM (#250679)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Ebbie

They say that a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged. That seems to equally apply to Jon, at the moment! Hey, Jon, please don't internalize the hysteria from the other thread. I'm a woman but I think neither sex has an exclusive on pettiness. I enjoy HearMe a lot, partly from your 'handling' of the site and I don't for a moment believe that this is an issue of control and sexism. (More like PMS!) See you on HearMe...Ebbie


02 Jul 00 - 05:01 PM (#250680)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: bbelle

Or, Ebbie, perhaps it's a classic case of UMS ... Ugly Mood Swing ... and women and men alike can get it.

moonchild


02 Jul 00 - 05:10 PM (#250681)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Sailor Dan

Jon

a mens only is not really necessary, now is it? And moonchild you were your ums very well

Sailor Dan

By the way moonchild if you would like to tell me what your real feelings are, PM me.

Dan ]


02 Jul 00 - 05:14 PM (#250682)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Jon Freeman

Sorry Ebbie and I will stop now. I never saw HG's post suggestion as being feminist and did not expect the replies that suggested that I was trying to be controling or being sexist on what I had tried to address in general terms.

I remain deeply saddened that some people who I had considered to be friends and I had respected should manage to misinterpret my words so badly and my first post here does not reflect my beliefs but the way my words were used against me.

Such is life and it is time for me to let it drop. As in the Ancient Mariner, I walk away a sadder and a wiser man.

Jon


02 Jul 00 - 05:24 PM (#250683)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

You ain't leaving are you, Jon? I hope not....


02 Jul 00 - 05:30 PM (#250686)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Jon Freeman

Not from Mudcat, Amergin, just from the debate and that is for the best really.

Jon


02 Jul 00 - 05:36 PM (#250690)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

Ok, glad to hear.


02 Jul 00 - 05:44 PM (#250692)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Sailor Dan

Jon

No matter what you say and no matter what you do in this life you will find that some dont agree, a lot dont agree and others just dont care. It isnt worth your being upset by the disagreements. Hell the way you hit the roof I thought you were IRISH like me. "BG" To a lot of people the grass looks greener elsewhere, people always like to try new things, it helps them grow. But they usually return to the tried and true and like everything else it blows over. Keep your chin up, a smile on your face and your temper down, (unless your true Irish):) and the wind in your sails.

Sailor Damn or DAn or dan or oh what the hell :)


02 Jul 00 - 05:56 PM (#250694)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Terry K

Jon, I know how you feel - you do your best for people and they fly at you because of their ignorance - it would make anyone depressed. I was going to intimate in the other thread that the offender may be in her early 50s, perhaps having the occasional hot flush etc - some of the signs of irrationality that many of us have been subjected to. But I thought maybe I shouldn't.

Bite your lip, Terry


02 Jul 00 - 06:23 PM (#250701)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Bill D

with apologies to the ORIGINAL Stern Old Bachelor

"I am a stern old bachelor
My age is forty-four
I do declare, I'll never sing
With women anymore.
I have a dirge ten verses long,
A ballad that's fifteen-
But both are quite misogynist
And neither one is clean.

CHO:
Oh, little loud chantey, little loud chantey dear to me..
I am stern old bachelor, who's better off at sea.

(feel free to mess with this...or leave it lie..the muse works strangely sometimes...*grin*)


02 Jul 00 - 06:47 PM (#250712)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: katlaughing

Those are power surges, Terry and rather than pointing at one sex, I like what Moonchild said in the other thread, i.e. it's not PMS, it's UMS Ugly Mood Swing, and anyone can have them.**BG** Don't bite too hard!(NOI=no offense intended.)


02 Jul 00 - 07:16 PM (#250722)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: kendall

Doug, really now, I see no reason to insult me..


02 Jul 00 - 09:14 PM (#250764)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Ebbie

I agree with you all about UMS; it took me many years before I realized I had it in my power not to buy into it- that I needn't poison my own well, that it's a matter of choice. And I choose happy!

As for friends turning on you, Jon, friends do that only when and with whom it is safe to do so. And hey! If you can't forgive friends, who can you forgive...Ebbie


02 Jul 00 - 10:27 PM (#250800)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Listen....I just got back and, skipping past the stuff that got all this started, I think this idea has great merit.

Can we get some servant types and some good seegars, stock up on some 4-star brandy and those funky snifters that you can't drink out of without spilling the crap all over you, while the rest goes up your nose? I'm thinking maybe we can do some big overstuffed armchairs and some real boring newspapers to read too. Say, what about a membership pin and a wacky handshake where you scratch your nuts with your left hand while shaking with your right and snort back a wad of snot through your nose so you sound like a boar hog in rut. Then we get to do the blackball thing too. Dissenting members use the blackball to show their feelings, only here you actually have to paint one of your own balls black and everyone drops trou to vote.

I figure we can eliminate Kendall right away since we don't want no members what are standin' around stirrin' turds no how. And Bert probably wouldn't work out since he couldn't remember where the place is. Mick too, now that I think of it, since he looks like he's givin' the secret handshake when he's just standin' around.

Spaw


03 Jul 00 - 01:36 AM (#250907)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Spider Tom

Ever notice how many men sing songs about the ladys,
Funny that.
Spider Tom (just having a bite)


03 Jul 00 - 01:43 AM (#250912)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Áine

Dear 'Spaw,

You said "Say, what about a membership pin and a wacky handshake where you scratch your nuts with your left hand while shaking with your right and snort back a wad of snot through your nose so you sound like a boar hog in rut." -- Hey, I'd pay to see that (just as long as nobody sniffs their fingers afterwards).

-- Áine (who always won the gross out contests in primary school!!)


03 Jul 00 - 02:04 AM (#250917)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: The Shambles

The book was good but I don't think that I would be welcome to live with the women on Venus and I certainly do not want to live out a boring existence with the men on Mars, so I will continue to try my best to value, learn from and live with both here in my short time on Earth.

Taffy McPaddy-Smith (Mrs)


03 Jul 00 - 08:10 AM (#250979)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: McGrath of Harlow

You know, for such a friendly lot of people, we do seem to have a remarkable knack of conjuring a fight out of anything.

But as for the stereotype about the Irish being hot-tempered...makes me blood boil. But in fact I don't think it's not a good generalisation.

Indeed, there are lots of people prone to losing their temper in any set of humans from any planet I've come across; but there's a difference between being prone to losing your temper (which I've never found particularly characteristic of Irish people I've known), and quite enjoying a battle (which perhaps I have). Losing your temper gets in the way if you want to win most times.

But, as Percy French sapiently pointed out: "When we've got all we want, we're as quiet as can be".


03 Jul 00 - 08:24 AM (#250987)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: kendall

Spaw, you did it again!! LMAO


03 Jul 00 - 08:25 AM (#250988)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Prone to losing tempers? I dunno'.......Its hard to be as pissed if you're lying flat as it is if you stand erect and additionally its also harder and messier to piss up a slack rope........But to each his own.

Spaw.....Prone to be Proan


03 Jul 00 - 08:26 AM (#250989)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: GUEST,JulieF

McGrath

I have often said that the difference between my fellow's side of the family (Irish) and mine( Scots) is that his blows up in arguments all the time , have a good ding dong and then it is all forgotten as suddenly. A good case was his father arguing about the cricket when we know he couldn't see anything other than vague shapes. Now my side don't argue but brood. Which is the best way - who knows ? But I'ld just be off now to have a brood and a sulk.

Julie


03 Jul 00 - 08:54 AM (#250998)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Wolfgang

a 1997 precursor of this thread: Guy's song circle.

Wolfgang


03 Jul 00 - 08:57 AM (#251001)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: The Shambles

This is one of those threads that does not make a lot of sense unless you have also read this thread Women's HearMe.

Mind you it still does not make a lot of sense even when you have?


03 Jul 00 - 10:37 AM (#251061)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: GUEST,Jerry

So anyway, will there be a lot of that macho butt-patting stuff that guys...I mean WE guys do at sports events. Like when there's a baseball game and somebody gets a touchdown?


03 Jul 00 - 11:02 AM (#251073)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: McGrath of Harlow

Butt-patting! Good grief... You wouldn't catch English footballers doing that. They tend to leap on each other and roll around in each others arms. Not too often in Euro2000 mind you...

I gather it's all to do with male-bondage, or something like that. The football culture

And I tell you, you don't get that much of that stuff at a game of Hurling, or Gaelic Football.


03 Jul 00 - 11:39 AM (#251081)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Irish Rover

I'm half Scot and Half Irish, I beat the crap out-a-ya and then brood, a mens club, well it has merit, lots of targets maybe we could start a fight club like in the movies, I'll bring B Bonnie and any one looks in her direction I'll put whuppin' on sounds good to me Irish Rover oh and spaw I like the snifter discription, just bring whisky and lots of it.


03 Jul 00 - 02:18 PM (#251184)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: GUEST,Peter T.

Clearly catspaw has been on holiday, and has returned invigorated. I personally always like the treehouse approach on Mudcat to the men's smoking room, but then I don't smoke.

I simply point out that these Hearme circles are probably interesting, but those of us with Macs are unable to participate, which cuts out a substantial fraction of Mudcat. This is a more interesting locale anyway.

yours, Peter T.


03 Jul 00 - 03:16 PM (#251207)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Little Neophyte

I don't know Irish Rover, I'm quite sure the boys are going to want me to wear one of those French Maid outfits with white socks and I'll have to serve the brandy, cut cigar tips and wash off dry paint.
I am not too sure if I am up to all that testosterone.

BB


03 Jul 00 - 03:22 PM (#251211)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

Sounds like an idea to me, Bonnie....


03 Jul 00 - 03:28 PM (#251215)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Irish Rover

Naaaaaaaa I just want you there for bait. you can just stand next to me and I'll amuse you til I need you to hold my drink. I always become amorous after fistacuffs soooooooo


03 Jul 00 - 03:30 PM (#251216)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Peter T.

Course it is not exactly clear what the menservants would wear in the Women's room (which currently has all the charm of a sorority meeting I attended in 1969, where they were deciding whether to change the hours for admitting men, and ended up screaming at each other, while the two innocent representatives of the male community in the room (me and Tim Hilton, whatever happened to him?) sat looking really scared at witnessing the power of women riled!).

yours, Peter T.


03 Jul 00 - 03:31 PM (#251219)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Little Neophyte

Just a thong Peter T., that's good enough


03 Jul 00 - 03:39 PM (#251225)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Irish Rover

I know a thong, actually I know theveral. I'm just not sure that enough


03 Jul 00 - 07:42 PM (#251310)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: kendall

I'm half Scot and half Irish. Half of me wants to get drunk, but the other half doesn't want to pay for it.


03 Jul 00 - 09:48 PM (#251373)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Brew your own.....its a thought. Then when you throw up you won't be out anything.

Spaw


03 Jul 00 - 09:58 PM (#251376)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: GUEST,Joerg

Wasn't there a time the ladies used to retire after supper about 100 years ago?

Bonnie - serve the brandy, cut cigar tips, wash off dry paint or retire with the ladies but DO NOT wear one of these french maid outfits.

Joerg


03 Jul 00 - 09:58 PM (#251377)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: WyoWoman

I think they'll all need spuds for those thongs, so I'll be happy to run the potato concession just outside the door.

I'm also Scots/Irish, among other heritages. This probably accounts for why I brood, then beat myself up for it.

And Peter T., you've reconfirmed one of the Great Truths as Observed by WyoWoman: At their worst, men are stupid, but women are mean.

Also: Men are from Earth. Women are from Earth. Deal with it.

ww


03 Jul 00 - 10:43 PM (#251395)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: harpgirl


br> Where do you go to find a man who is truly into commitment?

A mental hospital



How many men does it take to wallpaper a feminists house?

Only four if you slice them thin enough?

Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah Nyah ...can't catch me!!!!


04 Jul 00 - 12:11 PM (#251679)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: reggie miles

Spaw, a theme song might be in order that seems to cover all the bases.

Ever Since Eve

Adam was as happy as a man can be,
till Eve brought up the subject of the apple tree.
He listened to a woman, that's a losin' game,
and brother if you try it you'll learn the same.
They'll trap you with their glamor when you call around.
Before you know what hit you boy you're alter bound.
And when the preacher says to honor and obey,
it's only you he's talkin' to and how you'll pay.

(chorus) Ever, ever since Eve,
men have cried while women deceive.
You trust a gal and then she's gone.
Believe me it's been going on,
ever oh ever since Eve.

You meet a gal and take her out to dine and dance.
She leads you on but brother you don't stand a chance.
She'll help you spend your money and when you got no more,
she'll shake your hand and say goodbye and slam the door.
.Now I ain't sayin' women aren't here to stay.
Why, half the married folks are women, so they say.
But none of them are ever gonna get me hooked.
Cuz brother when that happens, your goose is cooked.

(chorus)

The boys and I are gonna take a holiday.
We're gonna buy a little island far away.
We'll smoke cigars and flick the ashes 'round the tent.
We're gonna gamble and we'll fish till our heart's content.
We're gonna eat our dinner in our shorts and socks,
and when we're through we'll break the dishes on the rocks.
There isn't gonna be a woman in the crowd.
We're gonna hang a sign that says no gals allowed.

(chorus)

I think an all male choir singing in harmony on the last chorus would be nice. ;~)


04 Jul 00 - 12:17 PM (#251686)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: reggie miles

Oops! I think that was suppose to be altar and not alter in that first verse, interesting transposition though.


04 Jul 00 - 01:11 PM (#251708)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Well Hot Damn!!! Thanks Reggie....NOW we're getting somewhere with this!

So now we have the club song and the official secret handshake and the exclusivity of the blackball thing.....Now we need a nice logo and somebody to start donating the furniture. We also need a committee to determine the criteria and then select the servants. Also, if we go with serving wenches, we need to put some thought into the uniform.

Spaw


04 Jul 00 - 01:12 PM (#251709)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Peter T.

Harpgirl, reminds me of a joke a lesbian once told me (yes, I know, feminists aren't necessarily lesbians):

"If you are in bed with another woman and another man, what is the man for?" "To answer the phone if your husband calls."

yours, Peter T.


04 Jul 00 - 01:28 PM (#251724)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Well, I like to focus on the similarities..........oops, wrong thread........

Spaw


04 Jul 00 - 01:33 PM (#251729)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: The Shambles

It is interesting to read and compare the thread that Wolgang provided the link earlier to this thread.

For anyone who wanted to know what the 'old curmudgeons' mean, this is a good demonstration of the difference between 'then' and now.


04 Jul 00 - 03:35 PM (#251779)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Seamus Kennedy

Catspaw, if you're serious about the club, sign me up. I have the handshake down pat, and I do tend to spill snifters full of intoxicationg liquors all over meself, and to tell nasty jokes too. Please can I join, please, please. Seamus


04 Jul 00 - 04:54 PM (#251808)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: WyoWoman

And Catspaw can teach all y'all to make that cool noise he does with his hand in his armpit and you can put it in at the end of each verse ...

Oh. That wasn't your hand and armpit? oh ... unh ...

Hey, I was voted Saucy Wench of the Month when I worked for the Oklahoma Historical Society. Of course, the competition only went on for a month ... But I was deeply, I say, deeply honored. ...

WW


04 Jul 00 - 05:40 PM (#251818)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

Well, look at it this way, you're the undefeated "Saucy Wench of the Month".


04 Jul 00 - 05:44 PM (#251819)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: wysiwyg

I hope it will be a lot like THE MAN SHOW on the comedy channel. So educational. Go, men!

~S~


04 Jul 00 - 05:51 PM (#251821)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

NO it'll be more like the Red Green Show on PBS.


04 Jul 00 - 05:56 PM (#251823)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Mbo

I miss the women already...

--Mbo


04 Jul 00 - 05:58 PM (#251827)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: wysiwyg

I am confident these can be blended to good effect, and kicked up an Emeril-notch too.

No I did NOT say to kick someone in the notch.

OK. I'll leave now. Even tho I was once made an honorary man by the men's support group I visited. (And I have a penis too, a little soft-sculpture one my friend made me years ago to use in the corporate world to reassure men that it's OK for me to be there at the Big Table.) But hey. I know only Real Men can be at the Mudmen Lounge.

~S~


04 Jul 00 - 09:04 PM (#251881)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: GUEST,Joerg

That sounds good. I know a Dr. h.c. degree (although I don't know whether this is used everywhere) - some Mr. h.c. is new to me...

:D

Joerg


04 Jul 00 - 09:20 PM (#251889)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Áine

Alright! I'm so glad to see you guys getting this Men's thing together. Ladies -- this is our chance to cross-dress and crash the party! I've got the cheap wigs and spirit gum ready to roll -- who's coming with me??

-- Áine ;-)


04 Jul 00 - 09:40 PM (#251897)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

Does that mean I can crossdress and crash yours?

Amergin


04 Jul 00 - 09:44 PM (#251898)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: rangeroger

Always remember the Oath of Men's Anonymous;
"I am a man, but I can change. If I have to."
rr


04 Jul 00 - 09:45 PM (#251899)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Áine

Dear Amergin,

;-) You betcha!! But remember, that'll mean shaving your legs (at least)!

-- Áine


04 Jul 00 - 09:46 PM (#251900)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Little Neophyte

Aines, can I come as a transvestite?
My voice is deep and I have big feet.

Bonnie


04 Jul 00 - 09:50 PM (#251904)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

Aine,

But if I pretend to be from Texas, I won't have to shave my legs...

Amergin


04 Jul 00 - 09:56 PM (#251909)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Áine

Yeah right, Amergin, but you will have to wear those cute little puke green cowboy boots with a fringed skirt . . .

-- Áine


04 Jul 00 - 10:23 PM (#251924)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

It also means I won't have to shave my beard either... But yeah I think I can go for one of those outfits...

Amergin


05 Jul 00 - 01:13 AM (#252002)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Hey!! Now here's an idea forming......A New CLUB!!!.........LET'S ALL SHAVE EVERYTHING!!! Then we get out the Wesson Oil.......

OKAY....So its a different kind of club that shows complete disrespect for all genders. I figure if we get enough of us slimed up good in Wesson in a big rubber room, we can get on with a lot of SERIOUS disrespectin'......at least til our age begins to show.

Spaw


05 Jul 00 - 01:43 AM (#252018)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: katlaughing

Spaw....it's gotta be Puritan oil...sheesh! Thought you'd know that!**BG**


05 Jul 00 - 01:47 AM (#252021)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Well geeziz kat....I don't care if its Castrol 10-40 Syntec. I just want to get on with the disrespectin' part!!!

Spaw


05 Jul 00 - 02:07 AM (#252027)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Seamus Kennedy

You know, this went from a great idea of fraternal exclusivity for the boys, to a place where everybody's allowed in. Where the hell would this country be if we let eveyrbody in??!! I don't wanna play any more. So there! Girls in our tree house..what next I ask you? And Catspaw, if everyone's naked and covered in oil, how could we tell the boys from the girls, huh? Seamus


05 Jul 00 - 06:54 AM (#252079)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: wysiwyg

I dunno, I am still stuck on the following vision:

All the men of Mudcat (you know who you are), as a partially in-drag chorus but with the beards, definitely, at the Girl Party they crashed (by special invite), singing "Did Ah Shave Mah Laigs For This?"

That is an Event Photo opportunity I would pay to see.

~S~


05 Jul 00 - 10:23 AM (#252149)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Seamus ol buddy, uh.....well,look......like maybe we need to talk...........

Spaw


05 Jul 00 - 10:33 AM (#252156)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: sledge

I'd wear a dress, but the beard deffinatley stays.


05 Jul 00 - 10:45 AM (#252160)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Homeless

I've been know to wear a skirt when contradancing. But, like sledge, the beard definitely stays.


05 Jul 00 - 10:55 AM (#252161)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Mbo

Same here with the beard...but can I wear a kilt and still have it count?

--Mbo


05 Jul 00 - 11:40 AM (#252189)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

Uh, Seamus, if you can't tell the difference between a woman and a man...well, maybe Spaw should show you some pictures....and explain the story of the birds and the bees toyou while he's at it....

Amergin


05 Jul 00 - 12:24 PM (#252209)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Irish Rover

this thread has seriously degenerated what can I do to help???? Seamus You're Irish lad what's wrong here?


05 Jul 00 - 09:32 PM (#252566)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: SINSULL

Mbo,
Does what count? And are you going to shave your legs?

Seamus,
I am not even sure where to begin but perhaps a night of professional wrestling will help. Although all are covered in oil, the women are the ones with the tops on. Wait, the Dudley Boys wear tops. This is going to be tougher than I thought. Can't go by chest sizes either. The Rock is at least a 50DD. Someone help me out here. The women are the ones without chest hair ... sometimes.

Why do you need a Male Mudcat in the first place? Are you too good for us? I thought my days of being locked out of the tree house were over.

SINSULL
With hurt feelings!


05 Jul 00 - 11:01 PM (#252632)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

You can be an honorary man if you pass the test...


05 Jul 00 - 11:03 PM (#252634)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Mbo

For your first test, you must name at least 5 Yardbirds songs...

--Mbo


05 Jul 00 - 11:09 PM (#252641)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

Then there's that test with the ewe....


05 Jul 00 - 11:09 PM (#252642)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: sophocleese

That's it I'm gone! I was already to start growing my beard again too.


06 Jul 00 - 03:27 AM (#252733)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Seamus Kennedy

Sinsull, we need a club where we can make the boy noises that girls just can't make. Like pppplllllpppphhhhhtttttt! And thbbthbbthbbthbb! and all those neat cops and robber and cowboy gunshot bangs like Kerpow! and Ka blam! with lots of guttural explosions and spit flying everywhere, and...and...and....farts and burps. Thank you, I feel better now. All the best. Seamus


06 Jul 00 - 09:39 AM (#252824)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: bbelle

... and you will need "drrrrrdrs" ... the sounds made when blowing paper towel, toilet paper, or christmas paper rolls. I will start saving mine for you ... let me know where to send them ...

moonchild


06 Jul 00 - 10:18 AM (#252838)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: SINSULL

Seamus, Where do you find these women who look the same as men when coated with oil and are incapable of farting, burping, spitting, etc.? Granted, we generally do not approach such activities with quite the enthusiasm you and Spaw throw into it, but "incapable"?

But if playing in your treehouse means that I have to listen to the Yardbirds, tolerate foul odors and noises on a regular basis, and cozy up to a ewe, I'll keep to the female side of the cafe. I was looking forward to Spaw's "show and tell" hour with Seamus though.

SS


06 Jul 00 - 11:12 AM (#252870)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Peter T.

Sinsull, so were we all. I remember my grade 7 gym teacher showing us one of those great syphilis films of the 1960's (the one where the girl comes to town with her own drum kit, and wanders off to the next town at the end of the film, followed by the drum kit), and afterwards he introduced the health teacher who was supposed to tell us about human plumbing, and he fled from the room as she began to talk. He couldn't take the pressure. I understand that CP has already begun boning up for the lecture -- I use the verb in its original sense, of course. All I know is that he says we are supposed to bring a cabbage leaf to class.

yours, Peter T.


06 Jul 00 - 11:24 AM (#252880)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: SINSULL

Peter, The cabbage leaf is for the farting class! They don't want us (females) at either! HHMMMFFF SS


06 Jul 00 - 11:28 AM (#252885)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Actually Peter, an appropriately sized lettuce leaf would go well with the oil....You bring the vinegar.

See, I was just trying to be all inclusive ala Shambles thread about "lumpers & splitters"...which somehow makes me think of bowel movements instead of social decisions...but now I am becoming troubled by the lack of knowledge on some folk's parts regarding their parts, and the inability to part with the hairy bits on the part of others. Partly.

I mean like, who wants to roll around all slimied up and disrespectin' the daylights out of each other with people who can't lose the beard, leg hair, and all that? And no damn kilts either. Maybe we do need a class on this......

Spaw


06 Jul 00 - 11:36 AM (#252896)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Peter T.

In the immortal words of the teacher in Dobie Gillis: "Now class -- and I use the term advisedly...."

yours, Peter T.


06 Jul 00 - 12:55 PM (#252926)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: bbelle

Dear Stalwart Men Mudcatters ... Remember - Hair is a renewable resource - it grows back! Well, at least it does on most body parts. Perhaps a Team Building Event would be in order ... shaving each other's backs or a Seminar on ... condomology. The possibilities are endless, but you might want to engage a woman activities director, given the fact that our imaginations are so, shall be say "colorful" ...

moonchild


06 Jul 00 - 01:20 PM (#252934)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

Are you asking for the job?


06 Jul 00 - 01:33 PM (#252942)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: bbelle

Well, sure ... 'spaw has volunteered to perform "moral" surgery on me so I see no reason to decline your generous offer. Not to be gauche, but are you offering a salary or will I be working for gratuities and out of the goodness of my heart?

moonchild


06 Jul 00 - 01:44 PM (#252946)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Oh let's just say you're working for tips Moon.

Spaw


06 Jul 00 - 01:56 PM (#252951)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: bbelle

Of course! Being around all you handsome, witty, intelligent men should be rewarding enough. How silly of me ...

"Tips" ... hmmmmm ... let's see, now, there's tip of the hat, tip of the barrel, tip-off, tip one's hat, tip toe through the tulips, tip of the iceberg ... to which "tips" would you be referring?

The burning question, now, is ... with all the above mentioned attributes, can I count on Senseitivity, too?

moonchild


06 Jul 00 - 02:42 PM (#252972)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Sensitivity? I've been known to cry at the drop of a hat. I once dropped an expensive Stetson in a hog trough and cried like a baby for weeks. I had it cleaned and reblocked by an Albanian fishmonger who was apprenticing in the trade, but it was never the same. I think it was because he replaced the genuine pheasant band with one made out of carp gills, but whatever he did, the panache was gone.

And Moon.....I've always loved women for their mind. Well, more like, I've always loved women who didn't mind......Especially the ones who didn't mind the smell of that hat. Ya' see, the carp hadn't been preserved and after a few weeks the odor was right fierce. Did I mention what happened to the rattlesnake boots when I went to retrieve the hat? Yeah, well, uh, they got to be pretty ripe too.

Spaw

Spaw


06 Jul 00 - 04:59 PM (#253049)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: wysiwyg

Spaw, don't most men have a DIFFERENT name than their own for the lil guy? Or is that your own evil evil twin twin signing signing your your name there there?

~S~


06 Jul 00 - 05:03 PM (#253053)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Just my exuberant personality coming through........Like I said, I call mine Joe Smackers; Mick refers to his as Big Ed and I gather Meebo calls his Mini.

Spaw....and his buddy Joe


06 Jul 00 - 05:11 PM (#253056)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Mbo

PLease, Spaw, it's Gengolfus.

--Mbo


06 Jul 00 - 05:12 PM (#253057)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: wysiwyg

So.... do women ever get to do the naming? I guess not. I guess one without still a name, by the time a woman would think about, it would be an impossibility. At least very unlikely.

Nicknames, though?

What about Multiple Personalities?

Oh my. I'll have to see what Hardi thinks I guess. Never mind.

~S~


06 Jul 00 - 05:22 PM (#253065)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Irish Rover

I did not name mine though it has had several different names as degree of passion with in the relationships varied. I prefer to let the ladies call it what they will as long as they call it!


06 Jul 00 - 05:34 PM (#253070)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

I call mine Donald the Hammer or the Selfish Giant.....


06 Jul 00 - 06:24 PM (#253082)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: SINSULL

Now how come when Praise started a thread on names you have for the family jewels, she got very few suggestions and a lot of grief? But you guys are off and running with the same topic and nobody notices? I am beginning to think that we should set up a female mudcat site and... Sorry Jon, I'm off on a tangent. And no that it not my pet name for it.


06 Jul 00 - 06:26 PM (#253084)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: wysiwyg

(SS!

Shh!!!! Its OK!! Just to have it be safe enough for them to go for all of this is wonderful!

~S)


06 Jul 00 - 06:35 PM (#253087)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Homeless

Abdul. As in "Abdul the tentmaker"


06 Jul 00 - 06:35 PM (#253090)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: GUEST

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06 Jul 00 - 09:43 PM (#253171)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: WyoWoman

Well, I sort of like the idea of naming one "Tangent," and being off on one. (Theoretically, of course. Having none of my very own, this is a strictly academic exercise here.)

And if the rest of you Mudmen decide to bone up for the class, as Peter T. so helpfully suggests, I do hope we ladies will be invited to sit in the gallery and observe. We promise not to fidget.

xo/Pansy Rue Twidgett


06 Jul 00 - 09:43 PM (#253172)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: WyoWoman

Well, I sort of like the idea of naming one "Tangent," and being off on one. (Theoretically, of course. Having none of my very own, this is a strictly academic exercise here.)

And if the rest of you Mudmen decide to bone up for the class, as Peter T. so helpfully suggests, I do hope we ladies will be invited to sit in the gallery and observe. We promise not to fidget.

xo/Pansy Rue Twidgett, undefeated Saucy Wench


06 Jul 00 - 10:19 PM (#253192)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: SINSULL

Check the Kendall Thread. He calls his Edgar Cayce and is hoping someone will raise him. Let's all work on it and take his mind off his hospital visit.


06 Jul 00 - 11:29 PM (#253223)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

Uh, you go ahead....


07 Jul 00 - 12:39 AM (#253255)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Seamus Kennedy

Sinsull, male and female body-builders, when oiled- up and buck-nekkid are hard to tell apart, uh, I think. And Catspaw, I may need that talk from you after all. By the way, according to the tattoo, mine is Bart sometimes, and Bartholomew The Magnificent at others. Seamus


07 Jul 00 - 01:16 AM (#253269)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: WyoWoman

Seamus, could we be friends? Close, personal friends... ww


07 Jul 00 - 02:23 AM (#253280)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Peter Kasin

Can't have a men's club without everyone walking around in smoking jackets monogrammed with "MC" (mudcat cafe) and smoking pipes.


07 Jul 00 - 03:01 AM (#253284)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

And we can call the lavatory the Catspaw.

As in: "Excuse me, Max, for a minute. I have to use the Catspaw."

Amergin


07 Jul 00 - 11:52 AM (#253470)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Seamus Kennedy

WyoWoman, I think you would use your friendship with me to just to meet Bartholomew the Magnificent, so I'm afraid the answer is a definite maybe. Perhaps if you bought me a smoking jacket (quilted with silk lapels) with the MudCat Coat of Arms on the breast pocket, the pipe AND a large leather armchair, I would reconsider. I can be persuaded. Seamus


07 Jul 00 - 02:00 PM (#253550)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: WyoWoman

Lessee, lessee .... click on www.smokingjackets'r'us ... ummm, then ... www.bigfatchairs, ... then www.wegotpipes ... unh ... www.snifters.for.men ...

Yup, I think I can do this ... hold on ...

ww


07 Jul 00 - 03:28 PM (#253603)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: SINSULL

I can see one major problem with this "All Male Mudcat Club": who is going to put the toilet paper on the roller? With all your gadgets and gizmos, I have yet to see a man master the art of the simple toilet paper roll. I guess you can do what you always do and leave it on the back of the tank. Not elegant but efficient and easy to reach when in the mood to play a comb. But prone to falling in when you leave the seat up.


07 Jul 00 - 03:43 PM (#253614)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

Give the janitorial job to Charles J. Sanders. Shit cleaning and tp replacement is all he's good for...

Amergin


07 Jul 00 - 04:48 PM (#253630)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Sorcha

Well, geeze luiz, this'll teach me to go on vacation!! Men's Mudcat Logo--a catfish diving into a banjo.......and, SS, if they put the paper on the roller, they put it on upside down. Ladies, we can be Auxilary Memebers, and just drink the brandy right out of the bottle. Then we fill it back up with kerosene, and betcha they never notice.


07 Jul 00 - 08:50 PM (#253807)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: SINSULL

Still, I wish I was invited. Jon doesn't want us there. Sulk. Whine even! So there.

Maybe we can do something radical and have a boy/girl party just to see how it plays out...


07 Jul 00 - 08:52 PM (#253811)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Mbo

Sins, I can change a toilet paper roll with one hand.

--Mbo


07 Jul 00 - 08:54 PM (#253812)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Amergin

If you don't shave for a week or so, you might be able to pass yourself off as one of us....


07 Jul 00 - 08:54 PM (#253814)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Áine

Wow, Mbo! I'm impressed! Betcha I know what you're doing with the other hand (hehehehehe)...

-- Áine


07 Jul 00 - 09:48 PM (#253839)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: catspaw49

Odd thing Aine......That same thought was crossing my mind. So Meebo.....Outside of what Aine and I are thinking, why would you have acquir3ed such a ...uh, ...skill?

Just curious............

Spaw


07 Jul 00 - 10:57 PM (#253862)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: GUEST,Joerg

According to my whole experience of 'men' (including myself) I think I can tell the following without being too afraid of being wrong:

If you know a 'man' first rely on him being sensitive and then suppose him to have an X (with X = any name you like).

Of course he can't simply admit that he is sensitive. That is hardly ever forgiven to him (it's one of the things forbidden to men, and forbidden things are always interesting). Admitting it in spite of this requires him to also be a 'desperado' or a 'boss' or whatever enables him to not having to care if he's forgiven or not.

It IS possible to admit it: You just have to say it in a way that also means "IF YOU DON'T LIKE THAT...!!!" But you are not always in the situation or position to say it that way.

It's really pervert: Being a 'man' you can only admit that you are sensitive if you also can in some way THREATEN the one to whom you are telling it. Otherwise you can rely on losing his/her respect.

Especially pervert: Do you want to threaten somebody you like? Mind that he/she also won't forgive you if you don't.

So, MC: Sensitivity? Huh?? What's that???

On with fun...

Joerg


08 Jul 00 - 04:57 PM (#254188)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: SINSULL

I feel threatened by Mbo changing the toilet paper roll with one hand. Does that count? But unlike my suspicious friends, I know where his other hand is. Guys, this is Mbo! He's pressing the F9 key.
SS


08 Jul 00 - 05:25 PM (#254203)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: katlaughing

Refreshing/winnowing the wheat from the chaff, or something like that


08 Jul 00 - 06:28 PM (#254228)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Sorcha

LOL! Pressing the F9 key indeed, SS. You are probably right.


09 Jul 00 - 02:29 AM (#254416)
Subject: RE: BS: Men's Mudcat
From: Pene Azul

Looks like it's time to continue this one.
It's getting too long for some folks to load.

Please post to BS: Men's Mudcat II .

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