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22 Jul 97 - 09:52 AM (#9214) Subject: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Wolfgang Hell I'm looking for the lyrics of this song starting "There was a frog lived in the well". Wolfgang Link to Froggy Central (click) |
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22 Jul 97 - 10:53 AM (#9221) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: dick greenhaus It's one oif the varients of the Frog's Courtship. We have a Scots version (Puddy in the Well) that may be what you want. |
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22 Jul 97 - 12:22 PM (#9237) Subject: Lyr Add: FROGGIE WENT A-COURTING (from Mary O'Hara From: Alice in MT Here is one version.
There was a frog lived in the well,
The frog he said I must go court,
Where will the wedding be?
Now we're all in very good cheer,
In came the bumblebee,
Now we're all in very good cheer,
In came the butterfly,
Frog jumped up with a terrible fright,
As the frog was crossin' the stream, This is an Irish version of Froggie Went a-Courtin', but the tune is different than the American one Burl Ives made famous. The only recording I know of this is by Mary O'Hara. She has been a big inspiration for me since the early 70's when I first found her record. She deserves larger fame. HTH Alice |
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22 Jul 97 - 12:37 PM (#9243) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Bert Hansell Thanks Alice, That's related to the version that I was supposed to have learned in school. It went....With a Roly Poly gammon and spinach, Hey Ho says Anthony Roly.... Bert. |
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22 Jul 97 - 05:41 PM (#9265) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: LaMarca Okay, I'm going to try this link trick here. There's been a few threads about this same song family over the past three months; if interested, look here: Froggy1(21 msg) or here: Froggy2(8 msg) or here!: Froggy3(2 msg) Hope this worked... |
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22 Jul 97 - 06:30 PM (#9271) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Alice Yes, LaMarca, it worked!! What a fun historical (hysterical?) ride we could go on with all the versions of the frog and mouse... until the redundance overwhelms us. Alice |
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22 Jul 97 - 06:45 PM (#9274) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Kiwi Alice - frog and mouse.. ehheh.. have you ever heard "The Mouse and the Tailor"? |
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22 Jul 97 - 10:49 PM (#9291) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Alice Kiwi... I looked up "The Mouse and the Tailor" in the database. It reminds me of "Haigh Diddle Dum", a song in Gaelic about a cat and his mother who went to Galway riding on the back of a duck. Have you checked out "The Vicar and the Frog" in the database? ...very interesting. Alice |
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23 Jul 97 - 03:33 AM (#9308) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Wolfgang Thanks all of you, the versions all seem to be very different. The version from Alice in MT is the first I have read which is very close to the version I knew, sung by the Clancy family. Wolfgang |
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23 Jul 97 - 11:55 AM (#9353) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Whippoorwill I learned a version of the "Kimo" refrain from an old man in western Kentucky in the '40s: Kayro jayro, down in the land of Pharaoh, Pharaoh, Come a rat trap, rattletrap, tommy-doodle, periwinkle, Kitchie, kitchie, kie-me-oh, Come a rat trap tommy-doodle oh. |
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23 Jul 97 - 12:34 PM (#9356) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Alice Wolfgang... further notes on this... the Mary O'Hara album that I have mentioned has notes written by Liam Clancy. For this song he writes," There Was A Frog Lived in the Well has been passed down through several generations of the Clancy family. I thought it was a family possession until we first got a radio and I heard Burl Ives sing "Frog went a Courtin'". I was amazed that someone else knew my mother's song. He didn't have my favorite verse, though: "The big duck came and gobobbled him up". The beautiful accompaniment is Mary's composition." This whole album is Mary singing solo accompanying herself on the Irish harp. Liam Clancy also writes (this is in the 1950's) that Mary O'Hara was one of the leading figures in the revival of the Irish harp and had "devoted much study in the method of playing used by the Irish bards". Alice
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23 Jul 97 - 05:41 PM (#9396) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Kiwi Alice - no, I'll have to go look that song up. On the version of "The Mouse and the Tailor" that I have, done by Golden Bough, the woman actually made an error - "But the tailor ate.. - the mouse he ate the tailor's shoes" - it's hysterical! :) |
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02 Jan 00 - 03:58 PM (#157064) Subject: Lyr Add: HERE'S TO CHESHIRE From: wildlone While I was looking at Old Threads I found this I tried the links but they did not work so I am posting this gem,it did not seem to be in the data base Heres To Cheshire. A song I heard the Spinners sing many years ago. HERE'S TO CHESHIRE There was an old frog lived in a well, Ding, dang, dong go the wedding bells. And a pretty little mouse lived in a mill, Ding, dang, dong go the wedding bells.
Chorus.
Here's to Cheshire and here's to cheese,
Froggy went a courting and he did 'rive,
"Oh I am rich and I am brave,"
Says Uncle Rat, "I'm much afraid."
Open the oysters, still champagne,
But as they were going it hot and strong,
Well Uncle Rat like a hero stood,
And where was the gallant frog this while?
So that was the end of him and her.
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02 Jan 00 - 04:25 PM (#157074) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Bruce O. "Froggy in the Well"; facsimile of oldest: SCA Minstrel website-Ravenscroft-Melismata-#21 "Tailor and Mouse" was originally tailor and louse. Old tradition had it that tailors were cowardly and couldn't fight anything bigger (7 tailors make a man. See also "Benjamin Bowmaneer" in DT) John Taylor capitalized on it with his ballad of the Tailor and the Louse, and it was revised a few times on other broadside ballads, and came down to us as a folksong. See ZN2168, ZN2449, and Zn2570 in the broadside ballad index on my website for the early versions. www.erols.com/olsonw |
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02 Jan 00 - 05:25 PM (#157101) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Bruce O. Sorry, that should have been '9 tailors make a man' above. |
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02 Jan 00 - 06:31 PM (#157123) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: fulurum makem and clancy also recorded it. its on their "we've come a long way" album. |
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03 Jan 00 - 04:37 PM (#157503) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Susanne (skw) The version wildlone posted, 'Here's to Cheshire', is a rewrite of the older song by Cheshire fruit farmer Leslie Haworth. - Susanne |
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06 Jan 00 - 04:26 PM (#159110) Subject: Lyr Add: THE FROG AND THE MOUSE From: _gargoyle A recent search for Renaissance songs led to this version....similar beginning and then an abprut departure.
THE FROG AND THE MOUSE
There was a frog lived in a well.
Refrain between lines
He rode till he came to Mouse's Hall
My uncle rat is not at home;
He's been a fine young gentleman,
Four partidge pies with season made,
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06 Jan 00 - 05:21 PM (#159151) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: Bruce O. That's looks like a very recent literary version.
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06 Jan 00 - 10:16 PM (#159337) Subject: RE: Lyr? Frog in the well From: _gargoyle Thanks Bruce, I needed a collaborating peer
Personally, I am not familiar with several that the director has presented. This one was from a CD given to me:
Folk Songs and Ballads of Elizabethan England Fantasies For Consort of Recorders Alfred Deller Desmond Dupre. The Taylor Recorder Consort Now, on this CD every single song had its own, VERY peculiar twist. When I questioned the songs, the director said, "That is because yours came later. These are the original." HOWEVER, NOWHERE on the CD is any historical reference given to texts. In my opinion Alfred Deller is a charlatan. His credits read, "The renowned Alfred Deller (1912-1979) was one of the first musicians to popularize the current practice of authentic early music performance." The director is "insisting" on non-anachronogical music and yet her recommendations are suspect. |