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Lovely Rose of Clare

23 Jul 97 - 11:05 AM (#9349)
Subject: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: Rusty

In the Database the song, Lovely Rose of Clare only has one verse and the chorus. I'm sure there are more. Do anyone know the complete song??

Thanks


30 Jul 97 - 08:40 PM (#9898)
Subject: Lyr Add: MY LOVELY ROSE OF CLARE (Chris Ball)
From: Frank Maher fmaher@nfld.com

This is the version that I know:

Oh, my lovely Rose of Clare, you're the sweetest girl I know.
You're the queen of all the roses, like the pretty flowers that grow.
You are the sunshine of my life, so beautiful and fair,
For I will always love you, my lovely Rose of Clare.

The sun it shone down like a jewel on the lovely hills of Clare
When I strolled along with my sweet love one evening at the fair.
Her eyes they shone like silver streams with her long, long golden hair,
For I have stolen the heart of one, my lovely Rose of Clare.

We walked down by the riverbank where the lovely Shannon glides
And listened to the nightingale, singing songs for you and I.
And now to say goodbye, farewell, to all you people there,
For I have stolen the heart of one, my lovely Rose of Clare.

That's about the best I can do!
All the best,
Frank


31 Jul 97 - 12:11 AM (#9905)
Subject: RE: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: dick greenhaus

Thanx, Frank. Additional lyrics always welcome!


18 Aug 97 - 02:44 PM (#10670)
Subject: RE: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: Rusty

Hey, Frank, you got it buddy. I knew there was more to the song than what was on the database. Thanks very much.

Rusty


07 May 23 - 01:11 PM (#4171756)
Subject: RE: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: GUEST,Patrick in New York

Is My Lovely Rose of Clare (Lovely Rose of Clare) considered a traditional Irish folk song?


11 May 23 - 04:52 PM (#4172003)
Subject: RE: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: GUEST

It's certainly traditional in the sound of it and the sentiments of it. But is it so old that it's public domain? It's hard to say. There are several recordings of it, but none seem to credit a composer or an author of the lyrics.

It's a pretty little thing, and if you wanted to learn it, you could listen to a version on YouTube. I like the one by Daniel (I forget his last name).


14 May 23 - 03:50 PM (#4172222)
Subject: RE: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: GUEST,Rossey

It is a modern (C) song written by Chris Ball. He recorded it as a single in 1984, I don't know if he performed it before then. Lots of irish artists covered it from the 1980's +.   There is no trace of any singer performing it before that time.   I have a sub. to a newspaper site with millions of pages, and not one mention of any song of that title until then. Chris Ball became well known for having written it. He is the official writer of the words and music, and was still around when I had a look.


14 May 23 - 04:04 PM (#4172224)
Subject: RE: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: GUEST,Peter Laban

Some sources claim he wrote it in 1979, not that it matters much.


Lovely rose of Clare - Chris Ball


15 May 23 - 05:02 AM (#4172242)
Subject: RE: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: GUEST,Tom Patterson

A nice song, the melody reminds me of the tune to "Three Score and Ten"


15 May 23 - 09:38 AM (#4172258)
Subject: RE: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: GUEST,Rossey

The term Traditional Irish is often applied to Modern Copyright Works, as a Musical Genre/Style rather than the song legally being in the public domain. In this case the song is clearly modern but with a simple melody and lyrics in folk style.. but totally 100% modern and written by Chris Ball in the last quarter of the 20th c.


06 Mar 24 - 12:05 PM (#4198635)
Subject: RE: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: GUEST

Not to dispute Chris Ball's authorship, but never assume that a copyrighting a song guarantees it's traditional. In facts, there are lots of copyrights of traditional anonymous songs by recording artists. Even Paul Simon and Bob Dylan did it. The reason they do it is to claim the composer and lyricist royalties. The copyright office automatically approves any application that is the first one for a song, and leaves challenges to fight it out in court. Of course, if you obtain a copyright for a known traditional song and attempt to enforce it against other recording artists in court, the court will shoot you down.


06 Mar 24 - 03:31 PM (#4198643)
Subject: RE: Lovely Rose of Clare
From: GUEST,Rossey

'Lovely Rose of Clare' is modern. It's just the classification that often gets muddied with the use of the term 'Traditonal'/Irish as a style of music, rather than having anything to do with the copyright aspect. It's Chris Ball's song. There is no known pre-cursor. It's an easy listening modern love song, in Irish MOR style with a named originator.