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26 Jul 00 - 12:12 PM (#265027) Subject: Indian Neck selection question From: GUEST,Suzy T. How does the selection process for Indian Neck work? Does Jay just choose the people or is there some sort of committee? Is there a formal application process? Do the same people get to go every year, in other words, is there an "A' list of regulars? Also, was Indian Neck always run this way? I know that it goes back 40 or 50 years by now. Did one always need an invite or was it previously more open to the public? I know it's been invitation-only for at least 20 years now. I'm asking because I'm associated with a different gathering (in another part of the U.S.) which is faced with trying to keep the size down. We need to look at lots of different models and Indian Neck seems to be one that would be worth checking out. By the way, I did attend Indian Neck one time, maybe 15-20 years back, and enjoyed myself greatly. I must confess though that my most vivid memory of Indian Neck is having Allan Block urge me to eat all the Kool-Whip on my dessert, because the preservatives in it would help me live longer (preserving me from t |
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26 Jul 00 - 12:54 PM (#265057) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: Willie-O Suzy, I've met Alan Block and thats quite an intriguing image, but what the heck is Indian Neck? Willie_O |
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26 Jul 00 - 02:46 PM (#265131) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: GUEST,Allan S. Indian neck is a section of Branford Ct. on the beach. Back in the late 1950's some of the fellows involved with the Yale Hoot's Ran an all weekend folk fest At a hotel called "The Montawese house" Some of the performers were by invitation although everyone from the hoots had a chance to get up and play. Sourdough who checks in here every so often was one of the organizers. |
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26 Jul 00 - 02:51 PM (#265135) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: kendall I have Jays e mail address if you want to ask her. |
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26 Jul 00 - 02:57 PM (#265139) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: GUEST,Kathy Westra (in Flagstaff AZ this week) Indian Neck is a private folk music weekend organized every year by the Indian Neck Folk Festival Association, led by Jay Hartman-Berrier. Jay and her husband Bob put the whole thing together, with help from a volunteer board, of which I am a member. Jay has been involved in Indian Neck since its inception in the real "Indian Neck" described above. The weekend is currently held at a Jewish senior citizen's camp in the Litchfield hills of CT. There is an "A" list of regulars but a commitment to add new people when space is available -- particularly young singers and musicians who can help carry on the traditions when all of us "regulars" get even older and grayer. Because the list of people who have come every year for 20+ years is quite large, and the camp is limited to 150 people, the new folks who get invited each year are limited. It is frustrating not to be able to have a "y'all come" weekend, but that's just the way it is. Suzy, if you'd like to have a private e-mail discussion, send me a private message through Mudcat (KathWestra). This forum probably isn't the most polite place to have a discussion of what is essentially a privagte event. Thanks. Kathy |
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26 Jul 00 - 06:22 PM (#265293) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: GUEST,Amused It can be quite funny listening to some of those who are invited as they either try not to let on that THEY are going when others can't, or trying after the weekend to be casual in their name dropping. The process is very political and convoluted, and though I suppose that if I were good enough, I'd like the opportunity to see and hear that many very good performers and, usually friends, in one place without the klutzes that attend many open festivals, still I hear many sad stories about how it all works. |
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26 Jul 00 - 06:58 PM (#265342) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: GUEST,Barry Finn There was a long thread about this somewhere in the past, a new search for it might be in order (by someone else, I'm off to sing in a bit). Barry |
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27 Jul 00 - 01:03 AM (#265523) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: Suzy Thompson Kath, I am not sure how to go about sending you a private message thru Mudcat. If you can post directions for sending you a private message,please do and I will get in touch. Thank you, Suzy |
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27 Jul 00 - 03:16 AM (#265558) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: Sourdough I haven't been to Indian Neck since the early sixties but went to each of them up until then and helped to raise the money for it, by running concerts, putting up posters, sometimes putting up our own money up front, having endless discussions about who would be a good draw and whether it was our responsibility first to have good performers available to people to introduce them to the music or to raise money for the Indian Neck Weekend. When you think about it, it is obvious that there is going to be a great deal of dissatisfaction with the guest list at a festival like this. First you have the people who make it possible (assuming they still raise money the way they we used to), they need to be able to attend and they should be able to bring someone with them, no? That seems fair. Then there are people who did good things for us, people who helped out by donating valuable things, I am thinking of the NY Times writer who used to come, I've forgotten his name but he was a well known byline at the time and I still see his name on books; then there are the performers who you really want: we had Blind Reverend Gary Davis, Fiddler Beers, Carolyn Hester, these bing some of the names that come to mind late this evening. When you are all through with these, you get to the sincere, dedicated people who really want to go to the festival. There isn't room for them, not all of them. Then there are the people who are not so sincerely interested but think it sounds like it will be fun. The short of it is that there is disappointment and even anger. I suppose the system is inherently not fair because it relies on the fallible judgment of the "insiders". On the other hand, it has made possible moderful times, wonderful moments of song trading and story telling in a low pressure, informal atmosphere. I hope Indian Neck can survive the criticism from the people who are left out because there is no room, even though they may "deserve" an invitation. It would be a shame if it disappeared. Sourdough |
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27 Jul 00 - 09:53 AM (#265684) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: Jeri Suzy, click on Personal Pages right up at the top under "The Mudcat Cafe." Go down that page until you get to "Messages" Click on Send A Message Type in "westra" (Her full Mudcat name is KathWestra, but the "westra" alone will work. Click on her name, and you'll get the screen to compose a message. |
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27 Jul 00 - 11:31 AM (#265761) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: Suzy Thompson Thank you Jeri. Your directions were perfect! |
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27 Jul 00 - 11:37 AM (#265769) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: kendall Jeri is perfect! |
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27 Jul 00 - 11:44 AM (#265778) Subject: RE: Indian Neck selection question From: Jeri Kendall, may I quote you? |