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29 Jul 00 - 09:20 PM (#267575) Subject: Where is Clohinne ? From: Nynia In last nights Hear Me someone mentioned how much they liked the Niamh Parsons song Clohinne Winds. Noreen asked me if I knew where it was in Ireland. Needless to say I didn't. I know the song was written by Briege Murphy and mentions Clohinne Winds and Clohinne Hills. So far I have not been able to trace Clohinne although I was able to trace a Clougheen which is between Clonmel and Mitchelstown in Co.Tipperary. It is situated between the Galtee mountains and the Knockmealdown mountains, so the hilly bit is there. Could Clohinne be a typo for Clougheen or has anyone any better information. "Clohinne Winds" lyrics here (click). |
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29 Jul 00 - 10:56 PM (#267631) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Noreen Just listen to this: Niamh Parsons singing Clohinne Winds (click on the title). She can sing! Noreen |
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29 Jul 00 - 11:11 PM (#267638) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Mbo That was me who was talking about "Clohinne Winds", Nynia. Still haven't found where it exactly is yet. But, awesome song, ain't it? --Matt |
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29 Jul 00 - 11:21 PM (#267642) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Noreen Yes, thanks for that, Mbo, and I really love Niamh Parsons' voice. Thanx for the thread too, Nynia. Noreen |
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30 Jul 00 - 06:14 AM (#267775) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Fiolar Could possibly be "Clogheen" (pronounced Clo Heen). There's a "Clogheen" in County Tipperary and also one in County Waterford. Take your pick. Mike |
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30 Jul 00 - 06:41 AM (#267784) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Nynia Thanks Matt I thought it was you but couldn't be sure. She certainly has a great voice, her latest album "Blacbirds & Thrushes" has gone back to being a little less ornamental and perhaps a little more straight trad. Thanks Fiolar on re-checking the map I find my spelling to be wrong, I don't know where the extra "U" came from, and I never knew about the Waterford Clogheen. |
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30 Jul 00 - 06:58 AM (#267792) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,bigJ Re. Niamh's latest album - watch out for 'In My Prime' Green Linnet GLCD 1203 - just released! |
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30 Jul 00 - 07:08 AM (#267795) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Nynia Thanks bigJ i've not seen it yet, i'll check out Claddagh Records on Monday. |
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30 Jul 00 - 07:45 PM (#268160) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: John Moulden Clohinne is a townland in the Mullaghbawn/Forkhill area of South Armagh, where Briege Murphy comes from. However, the Ordnance Survey maps do not mention it as spelled in the song (a perennial problem) - I think it may be given as Cloughinny. |
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30 Jul 00 - 07:48 PM (#268163) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Nynia John, that's fantastic. Thanks for letting us know. |
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30 Jul 00 - 07:53 PM (#268167) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Noreen Thank you John- just what was needed. Noreen |
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31 Jul 00 - 05:51 AM (#268403) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: John Moulden One last word; Briege Murphy gives the title of the song as "Cloghinne Winds" and I know that some of her family actually lives in the townland of Cloghinny (as the maps have it) so further conjecture seems unnecessary! No thanks are necessary. |
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01 Jan 05 - 03:28 PM (#1368889) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,Leif902 I've been trying to figure out where this came from... Briege Murphy's got a great voice and I love the song... I had assumed it was a geographical location somwhere in Norse Mythology but I guess I'm wrong!... Okay now I'll probably never visit this site again so bye bye. P.S. Buy Celtic Traditions: Memorable Tales and Celtic Mysteries: Tales of Celtic Tradition... but don't buy Celtic Voyager: Tales of the Traveler... they are all from the Celtic Tales Collection and the first two are some of the best CD's I own... the third one is terrible though. |
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21 Jan 06 - 08:48 PM (#1653154) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,BUBBA THERE IS A PLCAE JUST OFF THE LONGFIELD ROAD CALLED CLOHINNE BUT WHEN I WAS GROWING UP IT WAS PRONOUNCED AS CLOCK-HIN-YA THE LONGFIELD ROAD BEING THE MAIN ROAD THAT RUNS FROM FORKHILL DOWN TO THE MAIN NEWRY ROAD AROUND LISLEA WHICH IS LOCATED IN SOUTH ARMAGH NORTHERN IRELAND FROM WHAT I REMBER IT WAS A PLACE WHERE THERE WERE MASSIVE FALLEN ROCKS BUT IT WAS A GREAT PLACE TO GO FOR WALKS JUST AT THE FOOT OF SLIEVE GULLION BY THE WAY IS A AWESOME AREA TO VISIT |
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10 Sep 08 - 12:53 AM (#2435884) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,mac coilin Clohinne winds means "fairy winds" (from the Gaelic). It is not a place at all, but indicates that the lover who seduces and abandons her is of the Tuatha De Danaan, or fairy folk. |
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10 Sep 08 - 03:15 AM (#2435908) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Georgiansilver On a visit to Southern Ireland, I stayed in a place just by Cork which was called Clogheen and ran across a couple of other places with the same name... is this related with perhaps difference of spelling? Best wishes, Mike. |
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14 Oct 09 - 12:44 PM (#2745666) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,Patrick McAnaney Cloghinne near Lislea in S. Armagh is a fantastic place. Go walking around some of those ancient rock formations and you'll want to write ghostly romantic songs too! |
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15 Jan 10 - 02:23 PM (#2812886) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,Briege Murphy, Author /comp[oser Hi, Just came across this forum,so I thought I'd put it finally right...: Cloghinne is a townland in the low foothills of Slieve Gullion mountain, between the Longfield Road, Forkhill and the main Newry road at Dromintee. The spelling "Cloghinny" is totally wrong , I can't guarantee the correct spelling is my way...It is indeed a beautiful place ,and there is no particular legend behind the song, only my own fascination with the place, and the fairy tree. Briege , |
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15 Jan 10 - 11:57 PM (#2813366) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: michaelr Thank you Briege! It's a lovely song. Cheers, Michael |
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20 Feb 11 - 12:58 PM (#3099152) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,Just a Girl learning Irish dancing Thank you Guest mac coilin..... I had a feeling that Cloghinne was not a place, but perhaps suggested a type of wind related to the world of death, or dreams. Your answer helped me so much, and totally makes sense in relation to the lyrics of the song. Thank you so much. |
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20 Feb 11 - 02:41 PM (#3099208) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: michaelr Another example of selective thread reading: Guest, Just a Girl prefers another guest's airy-fairy imaginations to the nuts-and-bolts explanation of the song's author. Whaddaya gonna do... |
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20 Feb 11 - 05:40 PM (#3099344) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Richard Mellish > Another example of selective thread reading: Guest, Just a Girl prefers another guest's airy-fairy imaginations to the nuts-and-bolts explanation of the song's author. Sadly, most humans believe what they want to believe, regardless of evidence. > Whaddaya gonna do... Perhaps just crawl into the corner and gibber. Richard |
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03 Mar 12 - 01:48 AM (#3316503) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,Asya Oh, thanks a lot for information )))))) I do love Niamh Parsons' songs and wished to know what does "clohinne" mean. one day I'll travel to there (I hope). |
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09 Sep 12 - 03:17 AM (#3401908) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,Briege Murphy To Richard-I like your sense of humour.. Sorry about bursting the bubble of "airy -fairyness", but I do believe in fairies ,and have had a fascination with their existence since I was a child. In fact , I think they helped me write the song.... I also know many people who have heard the Bean si (banshee) cry , just before someone died, so I am not as "nuts and bolts " as you suggest... "nuts " maybe...B. |
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09 Sep 12 - 08:16 PM (#3402234) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Noreen Hello Briege, good to see you here. Thank you for your song, I still love it, twelve years after I prompted the start of this thread :) |
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04 Jul 15 - 01:25 PM (#3720961) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,violet101b4! Clohinne is a place in your mind , heart , and soul not just about faery winds it magick. The pictures in the video are from all over in ireland i think not just one specific place. don't quote me on the pictures. Thats why this song you close your eyes and your there. |
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05 Jul 15 - 08:30 AM (#3721111) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Thompson Was wondering! Couldn't think of any possible derivation that would make "Clohinne" mean "fairy wind" in Irish! |
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05 Jul 15 - 12:41 PM (#3721163) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST Beautiful isn't it!! :). Captures the essence ireland , beauty ,love , sorrow, freedom , life , loss , magick |
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27 Dec 15 - 07:04 AM (#3761080) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,Maureen Love her work and voice, think Cloghinne is neither here, nor there... but that mystical-mythical place. the invisible half-bridge between two worlds... if interested as an outsider poet, maureenscanlon-poetry.com, you could visit this site, with a forewarning it may be a bit too bold for some, yet very real...I've spoken to Niamh Parsons about turning "Caoin", a Poem-Ballad. Honoring all the women of Ireland, into a Song-ballad . Written more through than by me, while travelling around Ireland.... |
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17 Aug 17 - 07:35 PM (#3872218) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,Annwyn Found this thread while looking up info on this song. I have an alt theory that it is about the Faery Queen Clíodhna. She is considered a banshee, which is why the song mentions the banshee and the fairy hill and hawthorn tree. Hawthorn has long been associated with a place to meet the faery queen. Not sure if it is accurate though. |
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18 Aug 17 - 04:28 AM (#3872255) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,Henry Piper of Ottery For goodness sake Annwyn RE READ THE WHOLE POST !! The author of the song explains exactly what it means and what it doesn't mean !!! |
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14 Jan 18 - 02:39 AM (#3899473) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,George Winter The internet is a marvelous place, chock-a-block full of information. All you need to do is a little research. A visit to https://www.logainm.ie/en/s?txt=cloghinny&str=on will tell you there are two townlands called Cloghinny, both quite close to Slieve Gullion. If you search for Clohinne on the same website it will point you to Cloghinny as the nearest modern (official?) spelling. Spelling can be a bit fluid in Ireland, I think. Google Earth has Forkhill, but the Ordnance Survey map has Forkill and an 1861 census listing I chanced across seemed to be saying Furkill (but the scan was admittedly a bit blurry.) Google Earth also shows a Cloghinny Road near the southern end of the mountain. |
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16 Jan 18 - 04:11 AM (#3899910) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: Rusty Dobro Quite close to Bohenny, I imagine.... |
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10 Feb 19 - 02:12 AM (#3975819) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST https://sites.google.com/site/gapothenorth/the-townlands/cloghinnea |
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13 May 21 - 01:13 PM (#4105930) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,seamus byrne hi, i always find it fascinating how people can give answers to queries without having any knowledge. It is just their opinion. Even when the writer herself tells the story, they still go on . But hey sometimes songs paint pictures in listener’s minds that are different from what the writer intended. |
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13 May 21 - 08:26 PM (#4105961) Subject: RE: Where is Clohinne ? From: GUEST,Jerome Clark As a onetime songwriter (e.g. "Don't Let Me Come Home a Stranger," "Green Summertime," for which I wrote lyrics, Robin & Linda Williams the melodies), I was always surprised at what reviewers and other listeners heard as opposed to what I meant. I didn't fight it; rather, I decided that whatever a song means to an individual is what the song means. Still, I confess to cringing at the cavalier disregard for the writer's clear statement of what the Clohinne song (which has been a favorite of mine since I first heard it years ago) actually addresses. Surely the composer knows SOMETHING about that. |