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28 Aug 00 - 04:12 PM (#286720) Subject: My generous lover - sources From: John Moulden The first verse of this song is:
When that she saw her love, happy was she I have the full text of what I first heard from Bert Lloyd and subsequently from Dolores Keane and Frankie Armstrong - their source was almost certainly Bert and he said he had not seen it in print. Does anyone know anything more? I'm about to go on holiday for a while so may not be able to acknowledge any help immediately. |
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28 Aug 00 - 05:31 PM (#286773) Subject: RE: My generous lover - sources From: GUEST,Bruce O. A. L Lloyd also said it was sometimes called "Pretty Peggy" but the song is not listed in Steve Roud's folk song index under either title (There are two other "Pretty Peggy" songs listed listed: "Pretty Peggy of Derby,O" [on my website] and "[Pretty] Peggie in the Morning", Greig-Duncan Folk song Collection, V, #1002). |
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29 Aug 00 - 05:33 AM (#287065) Subject: RE: My generous lover - sources From: John Moulden Thanks Bruce, I'd hoped you might have come across it, I knew Lloyd had made that comment but had reached the same dead-end that you have. Lloyd is sometimes a retrospective reference nightmare, We know he made things up but I sometimes suspect he was a wholesaler. |
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07 Nov 02 - 07:48 AM (#820637) Subject: RE: My generous lover - sources From: GUEST,marco.crespi@tiscali.it Hi John, you say "I have the full text of what I first heard from Bert Lloyd and subsequently from Dolores Keane and Frankie Armstrong". Please could you send me thies full text 'cause a friend of mine is looking for this lyrics since a long time. Thank you in advance. Bye Marco |
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07 Nov 02 - 09:56 AM (#820714) Subject: RE: My generous lover - sources From: sharyn John Faulkner's note to "The Generous Lover" on Dolores Keane's album There was a maid (Ceirnini Claddagh CC 23) says "A version was collected by A.L. Lloyd from Mary Hacket of Limerick in 1947." |
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10 Nov 02 - 12:26 AM (#822590) Subject: RE: My generous lover - sources From: rich-joy My 1968 Argo recording of Frankie Armstrong singing it ("The Female Frolic" with Peggy Seeger and Sandra Kerr) says : " ... The singing is from Mary Hackett of Limerick, the text is part collated from The Irish Folk Song Journal. A. L. Lloyd collected the song from Mary Hackett in Dublin in 1947. Although variants of the tune have turned up since in Ireland, no other set of the words has been found. " Surprisingly, the copious sleeve notes are not credited, but one suspects Lloyd ... I'll submit the lyrics in a short while. Cheers! R-J |
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10 Nov 02 - 12:39 AM (#822593) Subject: Lyr Add: GENEROUS LOVER (from Frankie Armstrong) From: rich-joy THE GENEROUS LOVER Oh the first time I saw my love, how happy was I I knew not what love was, nor how to deny But I made too much freedom of my love's company Saying "My generous lover, you're welcome to me" She says "My relations they angry are all Because I have gone with you from my father's fine hall But my friends and relations let them all angry be For my generous lover, you're welcome to me" He says "Now farewell dear and I must away For I in this country no longer can stay But keep your mind easy and keep your heart free Let no man be your sheriff, my darling, but me" This poor pretty creature, she stood on the ground With her cheeks white as ivory and the salt tears running down Crying " Jimmy, dearest Jimmy, you're the first that e'er wooed me And I'm sorry that I ever said "You're welcome to me" Oh happy's the girl that ne'er loved a man And easy can tie up her narrow waist band She's free from all sorrow and sad misery But never said "My lover, you're welcome to me" from the singing of Frankie Armstrong ... Cheers! RJB |