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30 Aug 00 - 10:33 PM (#288292) Subject: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: GUEST,blutik@mindspring.com I would like to know the chords to this lovely tune...i am a 20 year old guitarist in charleston, sc, usa and am just "getting into" some Irish traditional and folk music. if any one knows how this tune is played i will pay big (with singing it of course) asia |
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30 Aug 00 - 10:53 PM (#288300) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: DougR Welcome, Asia! Someone will be along directly to help you I'm sure. At least I think I'm sure. DougR |
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31 Aug 00 - 12:11 AM (#288322) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: GUEST "Down the moor and across the heather", Scots, but sung by at least one Irish folk song singer that I know of. Can you give us a line or two of the song?. Titles are poor identifiers. |
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31 Aug 00 - 01:13 AM (#288337) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: Anglo It's in the database under the title "Heather on the Moor" as one might expect. The source is given as Dan Milner's book, A Bonnie Bunch of Roses. There are two tune files, the first is Dan's tune, the second, I think, is the one Paul Brady recorded and is slightly different. Dan's version is harmonized, in his book, with just three chords (A, D, and E in the key of A major). I'd start like that with your version of the tune and see what you copme up with. |
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31 Aug 00 - 01:14 AM (#288338) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: Anglo PS Peter Bellamy also recorded the song and I think it's on the 3-CD set that came out last year on Free Reed. |
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31 Aug 00 - 01:24 AM (#288340) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: Liam's Brother I'm very happily amused to read Anglo's comment. Paul Brady once lived in New York and it was at a benefit concert for the Irish Arts Center in the Bronx about 18 years ago where I first heard the song; Paul was the singer. Paul's source, by the way, was Robin Morton's lovely little book, Folksongs Sung in Ulster. I only sing this song nowadays when I do a session with Brian Conway, the fiddler.
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31 Aug 00 - 01:26 AM (#288341) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: Liam's Brother Sorry, make that 28 years ago. Time flys when you're having fun.
All the best, |
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31 Aug 00 - 01:38 AM (#288343) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: Liam's Brother Peter Bellamy was really getting into Ulster singers when he used to sing at our folk club at the Eagle Tavern in NYC. His version of the song (called "Down the Moor," as I recall) was from another Northern singer. I don't recall whether it was Eddie Butcher or Geordie Hanna. They are both great song versions. Try to make your strumming hand work in close concert with you vocal phrasing regardless which you pick. It seems to work well.
All the best, |
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31 Aug 00 - 02:30 AM (#288354) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: DougR Well and good, guys, but can anybody give Asia the chords? DougR |
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31 Aug 00 - 03:44 AM (#288371) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: Anglo Well Doug, since we don't know what tune he's using...I did give him three chords. |
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31 Aug 00 - 09:52 AM (#288500) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: Liam's Brother Hi Doug! I, IV, V.
All the best, |
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31 Aug 00 - 02:09 PM (#288651) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: GUEST,Bruce O. "Heather on the Moor" is a new title for an old Scots song somewhat altered. The song is in 'The Scots Musical Museum', IV, #328 (1792), as "O'er the moor amang the heather". The song was taken to be by a Jean Glover (by Robert Burns), but she was born in 1758, and the attribution is now very doubtful. The tune seems to have first been printed in P. Thompson's 'Twenty Four Country Dances for the Year 1758' as "In the Moor among the Heather" and two years later in Bremner's 'Reels' as "O'er the moor among the heather". The latter copy can be found reprinted as #1569 in 'Sources of Irish Traditional Music', I, 1998. Song, tune, and notes (with belief that Burns slightly revised the text) are in James Dick's 'The Songs of Robert Burns', #356. Delia Murphy (Mrs. Walter Kiernan) sang the Irish version on an LP recording ('The Queen of Connemara', Irish 35002) about 1960. Her title for it was "Down the Moor". The song is Roud #375 in Steve Roud's folks song index. Only one Irish version is listed, in Journal of the Irish Folk Song Society. Most traditional versions are Scots, and the song in SMM was reprinted in songbooks and chapbooks. Search on 'muir' for copies of a slightly different version on the Bodley Ballads website.
[From SMM, IV, #328, 1792.]
O'er the moor amang the heather
Comin thro' the craigs o' Kyle,
Says I my dear whare is thy hame,
We laid us down upon a bank,
While thus we lay she sang a sang,
She charm'd my heart, and ay sinsyne
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31 Aug 00 - 02:15 PM (#288653) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: GeorgeH June Tabor sings this as "Heather Down The Moor" . . I'll check which album it's on. FAR better to buy the album than simply get the chords from here . . Cheers! G. (back again briefly) |
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31 Aug 00 - 03:09 PM (#288689) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: GUEST,Bruce O. An obituary of Delia Murphy that I saved (d. at 68 on Feb. 13, 1971) gives her husband a different name than I'd seen earlier (above), Dr. T. P. Kiernan. The obit notes that she used her (Irish) diplomatic immunity in Italy during WWII to smuggle English POWs to Switzerland under a rug in the back of her car. She is reported to have collected a version of "Chevy Chase" from an old woman also shopping in Woodward and Lothrup in Washington, DC, while her husband was Irish Ambassador to the US.
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01 Sep 00 - 08:05 AM (#289140) Subject: RE: Heather on the Moor...anyone? From: GeorgeH OK, "Heather Down The Moor" is on the June Tabor/Martin Simpson "A Cut Above" CD, which should be on EVERYONE's "essentials" list . . G. |